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Just because we slept together doesn't automatically mean you are my breakfast partner.
What if it was in the ladies room at IHOP?
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lol sorry, I'm still a noob with the whisky and trying to find the best way to drink it. :blush: Adding water to good liquor just feels wrong, but I need something to tone it down for me while I get acclimated. I'll get there!
Diluting alcohol is absolutely acceptable. The bottle proof is simply the starting point. People have been dilluting liquor and wine for thousands of years.
I suggest the book A History of the World in Six Glasses to everyone on this thread. Exceptional review of the global impact of alcohol and caffeine based beverages. I recieved it as a christmas present a few years ago in a basket witha bottle of italian wine, a six pack of Southern Tier beer, a bottle of Makers Mark, a can of english tea, a pound of sumatran coffee and a 20 oz coke. Best christmas present ever.
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Great Flavored Beer from my region (and a tie in to the Whisk(e)y thread:
It's a dark ale aged in old bourbon barrels with whole vanilla beans.
It's also delicious. Definately a "dessert" beer.
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HEAT.
that is all.
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I am reluctant to take this thread down the rabbit hole of fermentation science but the source of the sugar is irrelevant. Sucrose is sucrose, maltose is maltose, etc etc regardless of the plant it originated from. The yeast doesn't care what the source is, they only care that a short chain sugar is present to metabolize.
Congeners and fusels are probably the issue. All brewing yeasts throw fusels. For most strains how much fusels are produced is dependent on fermentation temperature. Hotter fermentation temperature = more fusel alcohol produced. And that may be where cane distillate gets nasty. Smaller operations may not bother with the expense of controlling fermentation temp in their cane fermentations. And it gets purt dam warm down in them thar tropics.
The whole idea behind removing the 1st and last portion of the distillate is to get rid of fusels etc. If they aren't doing that then yeah, nasty booze. But if they do dispose of the first and last runnings I see no reason why cane liquor wouldn't become every bit as smooth and tasty as any other distillate.
You are, of course, correct. The mash makes the sweetness difference in the Rum, but it is likely the fermentation heat and/or distillation practices that cause the gut rot pain.
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I'm curious why you would say that distillate made from cane is any worse for you than distillate made from malted barley? They only difference should be the source of the sugars consumed during fermentation. As long as the first and last runnings are abandoned the distillate should be no more or no less bad for you than distillate made from corn, barley, or potatoes.
Assuming that they distill it to the same rules as the US (this may be a stretch) the distillate is only 80% ethenol. That other 20 percent can make a HUGE difference, smooth wheat Bourbons vs sharp rye Bourbons for example. I imagine having a sugar as powerful as cane would create some incredible congeners and fusel oils. in the ferment. I imagine yeast on crack.
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While I am a Whiskey Drinker, my brother and his wife are rum drinkers. While they were down in mexico last summer, they purchased what they thought would be a good compromise beverage. It is a Nicaraguan Rum called "Flor de Cana". It is distilled from molasses, but then the distillate is aged 5 years in charred oak barrels. It has the color of whiskey. I finally got around to opening it, but I had no idea what to make with it. It is WAY to sweet to drink straight. I got inspired and went out back to the herb patch and grab a bunch of fresh mint and made what I will call a Mojulep (soft J). It was actually quite refreshing.
I think, however, that I like rum even less now. It has to mascaraed as whiskey to even have a chance.
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Hard Rock/blues/bad ass axe/hot chick music. I feel better already.
I need some new songs to get into my head, and into the head of my sons and their hockey teams. We have started on the annual search for a locker room/game mix. Sadly, I find I am not as up to date on current music as I would like to be. Living in the sticks/getting old will do that to.
I would love for all you young whipper snappers on the board (and the old ones too) to toss me some suggestions. More rock than rap, and relatively clean is preferred. Fire away!
New popular stuff?Billboard
New good stuff (takes a bit more searching? indie rock cafe
Another great method is to put one song everyone likes into pandora and listen until you find another one.
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I really need to find the opportunity to more seriously explore Irish whiskey.
As if I *really* need that. :rolleyes: :P
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Even JD doesn't call itslef bourbon. It is "Tenessee whiskey". Sez so right on the bottle.
Yeah, I've just seen so many writers argue that they belong in the category because the mashbill matches that of bourbon (>50% corn) and they are aged in New Oak Barrels at similar barrel proofs. But You can't pour a liquid through a 10' tall pillar of maple charcoal and not significantly changes the properities pre barrel. I guess I'm arguing with people who aren't even here...again...
JD is a bourbon according to NAFTA and The Truthiness of Wikipedia.
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Have you tried your 4R SB yet or is the bottle new? We went to Kentucky last year on vacation and toured the 4 Roses distillery. Before then I was only dimly aware of that brand. I fell in love with 4R SB at that tour. Bought a couple bottles from that batch to take home and am now on my 3rd bottle of it (different batch though). Each batch is a little different. Long story - short, but they have a very complicated blending for their plain yellow label 4 Roses. They have 10 recipes that they cask separately to age and then blend them to the master distillers taste. Their single barrel bottling could come from any of those casks and any of the 10 recipes. And each recipe is distinctly different in flavor and character from the others. The master distiller chooses which one to use for their single barrel bottling based on what he thinks turned out the best. We got the opportunity to sample several of the different recipes on that tour and a couple differnet blendings of the finished product. It was very educational.
I have, we are on bottle #2. The first bottle had the strong maple and brown sugar sweetness that the standard blend is known for, clearly we got the mash/age mix that provides the bulk of those notes. This bottle is much less sweet, and has a little more smoke to it, but still delicious. I am a little confused as to why the 4R has not caught on in the states until very recently. It was the third most popular bourbon in europe for a long time behind JB and MM*. It's been available in Northern KY, SW OH and SE IN for a while, but seems to be spreading now. By far favorite primary offering from any of the distilleries, and I think it stands up against some of the higher level offerings.
*(I don't count JD, though some do. I firmly believe that the Lincoln County process is a significant enough departure from standard aging that it makes it impossible to compare it to a "true" bourbon, and they would agree with me.)
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With the wife all knocked up and nesting (I've We've renovated our bathroom, built a nursary into a previously unused nook on the second floor, built a guest room in the basement, and replaced every sheet, curtain, and towel in our house...all in the past month.) I haven't found the time to sit down and have a glass out of the Four Roses Single Barrel that's been staring at me from our bar. Tonight may be the night. Just the thought has me all happy inside. :)
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Haven't tried the Ten yet but will have to give it a try on your recommendation.
For a cheaper party and still good with the ladies alternative you might try a simple gin bucket. Take a new clean large bucket and start with a handle of cheap gin add two regular frozen concentrates, I personally recommend one 5 alive and one tropicanna lemonade or limeade, chop up one full lemon and one lime and add two 2 liter bottles of pop like 1 diet fresca and 1 diet 7up and fill the rest with ice. Travels pretty easy if you want to take to a party your invited too ladies love it and it goes down too easy. Have bucket will travel.
/snip/
This travels even better if you mix it in an (unused) 2.5 GAL gasoline container. Comes with a spout for easy pouring into a cup or, more likely, an open mouth. Proper tailgate requirement.
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It took me until now to realize that it's a French Connection day: 7/14/11. I think it's the third to last of the century.
Would also like to point out that it is Bastille Day, which of course, is the French National Holiday. Now that is frighteningly eerie...
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Reason enough to complain right there... ;)
HEY!!! :angry: oh wait, no...you're right. :cry:
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I kinda have to laugh at all of you men out there who are complaining about the lack of sleeping space because your wives are expecting. AFAIAC, if the Lord ever blesses my wife and I with a baby, I am going to enjoy every moment of it. We've been waiting long enough as it is.
Cross, that is some hard luck and I wish you and your wife the best. Keep the faith bro.
Despite our differences of opinion on the other topic, I honestly pray that a family as open and yearning for children as yours is blessed with their arrival.
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I kinda have to laugh at all of you men out there who are complaining about the lack of sleeping space because your wives are expecting. AFAIAC, if the Lord ever blesses my wife and I with a baby, I am going to enjoy every moment of it. We've been waiting long enough as it is.
wouldn't trade it for the world....
...but I'm still gonna complain about it. Marriage is wonderful that way.
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This thread should be closed forever. Thursday just no longer holds the same meaning for me anymore.
yes, make it complaint sunday. 7/1/2007 was a sunday.
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There's an interesting choice of words.
Is it hard to imagine I'd be erecting a tent?
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Just sleep on the floor. I did it for 6 of the months my wife was pregnant.
Hardwood floors, probably would lead to the same result.
Haha one of my coworkers is having the same problem. His wife is due any day now. He's been sleeping in the pop-up camper in the driveway, so every night is like camping!
The tent will be pitched immediately.
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Pregnancy Sleeping Sprawl... By 1 am last night I had exactly 11 inches of the bed left to sleep on. I learned years ago never to wake a sleeping pregnant woman, but now my back and neck are a complete mess from the rediculous sleeping position I had to take to fit into the available space. I'm bringing the air mattress in from the garage as an emergency back-up tonight.
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Don't worry. Your time will come.
Now, my complaint for the week: If last week's vote in the NY State Senate was not an indicator that NYS is running like lemmings into the sea and hasn't reached its nadir yet, I don't know what is.
I really thought the tradeoff between rent protection and limits on property tax increases was an excellent political compromise...
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I live right in Bourbon country. I didn't really start drinking any whiskey till I moved out here, now I just about rotate between beer and Bourbon depending on the type of drinking I'm doing (Dinner vs. Sports vs. Bar etc.)
I'm guessing the smoother more simple flavors of the scotches will probably suit a Vodka Drinker more than bourbon, but if you were tending to mix with sweeter mixers, you might try it. Maker's Mark is a reasonible place to start, but, if you can find it, Four Roses is delicious. Great Maple Syrup tones.
Also, If you like Mojitos, a Mint Julep is basically a bourbon Mojito. The Derby is coming up in a couple weeks, buy yourself some bourbon and mint, find a way to put a couple bucks on a horse, and enjoy. :D
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