Dahlin finishes 6th in Norris vote

[Thorny]

3 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Just looking over some stats regarding Dahlin this past season:

-When Dahlin was on the ice, the Team was a +33 in goal differential (+20 in 5-on-5)

-When Dahlin wasn't out there, the team was -53 in goal differential (-19 in 5-on-5)

Thats not short term, that is over the entire season. When the guy is on the ice, they are a very good team. 

The difference in goal differential with him out there vs not out there is 86 goals over the season.

For comparison, Cale Makar has a 57 goal differential with him out there vs not. For Werenski it was 42. For Quinn Hughes it was 90. For Morrisey it was 20.

I think the difference in goals on-vs-off the ice is exaggerated a bit for the bad teams compared to the better teams but still, the Goal differential with him on the ice vs off the ice is the 2nd highest in the league among D-men...and he might have passed Hughes for the highest if he didn't miss those games in the middle of the season.

There shouldn’t be an argument who the mvp of the team is 

3 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

This is just my opinion, but I think this speaks more to how good Dahlin is than it does to how bad the rest of the D is.  Dahlin is elite.  The rest of the D, mostly, would thrive or be fine in a better system. Dahlin is so good that he rises above; put him on a contender and he is maybe the best there is.  It cannot be overstated, how much Dahlin's talent is being wasted.

The differential plainly speaks to how good Dahlin is relative to the rest and it’s not just positive Dahlin the differential is wildly negative without him

It’s more reinforcement that one player can only make so much difference 

If it was just “Dahlin is elevated above not so bad stuff” we’d be a playoff team 

Edited 6 hours ago by Thorny