
elijah
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12 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:
Puckpedia is showing just over 20 mil for n cap space for the Sabres. That’s following the most recent trade.
This was before the Clifton trade, $3.3M for Clifton to $1.1M for Timmins cleared up that extra little bit
30 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:So what are you doing with Malenstyn and Lafferty?
Banished forever
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$88M cap floor, Sabres are at $77M. That’s before signing McLeod and Byram (if he doesn’t get traded). Assume $5M and $8M and that puts you at $90M.
If there’s truly an internal cap and Adams is holding Byram now, we’re looking at our roster already
Tage - Norris - Tuch
Benson - Kulich - Zucker
Greenway - McLeod - Quinn
Kozak - Krebs - Doan
Dahlin - Byram
Power - Kesserling
JBD - Samuelsson
I liked the Peterka trade in theory of more moves coming. If this is it, not great Kevyn, not great
EDIT: Forgot about Kozak ($1M), Levi ($1.5M) and JBD ($1M). That puts you at $93.5M and pushing the actual cap. Trying to give Adams the benefit of the doubt this offseason with the Jarmo hiring, but it’s looking like another not great offseason at this moment
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Forget the Sabres future, this Byram trade needs to be knocked out of the park if for nothing else but Thorny’s well being
I don’t post or contribute much but I have been scrolling the board since about 2018ish, and this reaction might be the strongest one I’ve ever seen here lol
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People heard the buzz names all offseason from the media and the rumors, names and picks surrounding Peterka and instantly reacted negatively because these weren’t familiar names
You subtracted a great offensive player (a surplus on this team) who severely lacked defense (the main issue on this team) and added two guys that play responsible defense, most significantly finally adding a Power partner that we’ve needed for years. The value is probably a little lacking in what we were expecting, but the team got better.
Consider me a fan of the trade
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My favorite part was when he said they have a plan in place and are executing it. Kind of comical he’s done not a single thing addressing the roster all off-season and got in front of a mic and said he’s executing on his plan
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Would love them to trade it ++ for a top 4 defensemen or a top 6 forward
That being said I think everyone knows they’re standing pat and making the pick
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55 minutes ago, dudacek said:
Philly, Dallas, Anaheim, Rangers, Winnipeg, Seattle
Philly traded for Zegras
Dallas resigned Duchene and traded Marchment
Anaheim traded Zegras and traded for Kreider
Seattle traded for Marchment
Rangers traded Kreider
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Connor Murphy + 25th Overall sounds good to me
Sounds even better if Adams then trades one of 9th or 25th for another player
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5 minutes ago, Thorner said:
there is zero reason the max output of our roster if things go right should be 16th. It leaves no room for error! A mid pack forwards group by differential CANT be the high water mark of a team. So you can address the D and g but you can also, ya know, bump up the high point. 13th is a ridiculously low high point. If we add a D man and he prevents a goal, it doesn’t do more for us than Marner scoring an extra one. We are *13th*, not legendary. And the difference between us and others in this area statistical variance than can EASILY shift going into next season. Bet on that being good enough? To tune of missing 15 years, maybe? Why on earth?
1 hour ago, elijah said:If Adams decides to do more than the bare minimum (he won’t), you trade any combination of power/byram/quinn/prospects/picks and get a true difference maker in the top 6 or a borderline top RHD pairing guy and then replace the pieces you sent with free agents or prospects.
So if we read the OP that started this in totality instead of stopping early, it appears that we’re on the same page 🤝
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19 minutes ago, Thorner said:
Analytically break even, anyways. I always forget breaking even is the goal around here, cannot aim for higherYa man. Just “fix” the pp. just by choice. Just snap your fingers
just “fix” the GT. Even though we know that can’t happen.
maybe try advancing your thoughts beyond the regurgitation of the surface level, tailgate focused fan groupthink of “the forwards are fine.”
there’s no shame in admitting you don’t really care about winning. You aren’t going from 26th to playoffs by adding a depth D man and calling it a day
No one is falling for it, Kevyn
If you want to upgrade the top 9 forwards the guy to upgrade is Jack Quinn. But Jack Quinn has also substantially improved without Dylan Cozens.
As far as the power play, I’m sure some new assistant coaches might help.
I’m not saying I’m content with the results we’re getting, but this team isn’t failing right now because of the forwards. The forwards have been mostly fine but are getting backed by 1 defensemen and no goalies. It’s not the forwards that have led us to a 14th embarrassing year
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1 hour ago, Thorner said:
if our top 9 is: Thompson, Tuch, Peterka, Norris, Benson, Zucker, McLeod, Kulich, Quinn: it’s a run back
You’re 7th in goals while being 25th in PP%, and all of these guys analytically are positive players aside from Quinn. Running back the forwards not only isn’t a problem, but it may even be the right thing to do.
You need to fix the goaltending situation, add a desperately needed Power pair who’s strong and reliable defensively, and fix the PP. There’s no shame in running back the forwards next year.
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Defensive makeover and a capable UPL pairing, borderline starter quality.
I don’t think you have to do much to the forwards unless you’re getting an elite guy for the shits and giggles of it
Benson - Norris - Tage
JJP - Kulich - Tuch
Quinn - McLeod - Zucker
Greenway - Kozak - Krebs
(Another middle 6 guy for depth, bump Krebs to scratch if you have to when we’re all healthy).
Dahlin - Byram
Power - XXX
Samuelsson - JBD/Clifton
UPL
XXX
That should be the bare minimum of an off-season right there. Even that bare minimum with a solid Power pair I think makes you a playoff team.
If Adams decides to do more than the bare minimum (he won’t), you trade any combination of power/byram/quinn/prospects/picks and get a true difference maker in the top 6 or a borderline top RHD pairing guy and then replace the pieces you sent with free agents or prospects.
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per Bissonette on Spittin Chiclets
https://x.com/sabremetrix/status/1899485690619936973?s=46&t=kbUOOiUzO3Eq5rkogsdwqA
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4 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:
Look at all the graphics you want, this is a reactionary trade, made by a GM who has no clue, and is further sinking the Sabres into a downard cycle. Come June, we'll all be calling for Adams head. Norris doesn't move the needle and defensively he's worse. If availability is the name of the game, you worsened your team. Bernard Docker is a bust, and nothing of note.
This is not true
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4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:
I guess he's not bad and potentially a possible partner for Power
if the plan for JBD is to be a Power pair for any longer than the remainder of this season i’ll be deeply concerned
not surprised considering adam’s history of trying to force a 5/6 defensemen into a top 4 role, but definitely concerned
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I’m surprised with the amount of disappointment that this trade is bringing. Norris isn’t a perfect player by any means sure and he’s similar to Cozens yes, but he’s finishing at a higher rate than Cozens
Most importantly you take a player consistently getting caved in defensively and switch him with someone that gets caved in but not as frequently.
Getting Cozens off the team was a net positive regardless of what the return was, his time as a Sabre was done by the end of November
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Don’t Move:
Tage, Tuch, Dahlin, Benson
Maybe Move If The Price Is Right?:
UPL, Quinn, Cozens, Peterka, Kulich, Levi, Power
They Could Stay Or They Could Go:
Greenway, Zucker
For the Love of God Please Move:
Everyone else
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21 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:
Sabres record is deceiving. Take away that 13 game losing streak and they're 14 - 6 - 4.
A nice trip down south, I'd sit them down in a park and tell them there is no support coming, the answer to tonight's game is under this lovely grouping of palm trees.
Go Sabres!
14-9-1, not quite that deceiving of a record.
They are what their record says they are currently, and that’s an inconsistent (and unfortunately bad) team
Realism aside, I’m still blind in optimism and telling myself how they’re only a 10 game win streak away from being back in the thick of things. Go Sabres!
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We don’t have palm trees, we have taxes in New York
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Brian Duff is a bigger problem than Dunleavy
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16 minutes ago, Thorner said:
Love and hate the underlyings.
I trust them and put a decent bit of weight into them, so it breaks my heart when we’re doing good and they say not to trust our results quite yet.
However, you can see before the Tage, Tuch, Greenway, Muel injuries that we were hovering around 50% xGF%. Can argue that we’re winning in spite of missing our best offensive player, and Greenway who plays a strong analytical game. Maybe we just stole a couple wins with our star out and the analytics start to trend back upwards once we get Tage back? One can hope. The analytics don’t mislead you very often.
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2 hours ago, RETURNTOGLORY said:
Now that Lindy has come onboard, he's evaluated the talent and has no doubt, "suggested" to KA what's needed to put the team over the top.
I still think Goaltending is #1.
Seems like the needs are the exact same as the offseason, a viable backup goalie in case Levi doesn’t work out, a Power pairing, and a middle 6 scorer. Shocking to say the least, I’m not sure anyone saw that coming.
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1 hour ago, SDS said:
Why do the Sabres have to be the team leaking?
To this point, I don’t think the Sabres are the team leaking. All of the quotes posted in this thread seem to be from another teams perspective or just general feelings around the entire league
Not that that makes it anymore likely that Adams does anything significant though
Trade : Conor Timmins and Isaac Belliveau from the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Connor Clifton and the 39th overall pick in the 2025 NHL Draft.
in The Aud Club
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We’re complaining about this trade too?
A big RHD that’s strong analytically, a need on the team, for us to dump Clifton’s cap and attach a 2nd? Adams made a solid trade here but I guess there’s just no winning when you’re staring down year 15