Refuting

Thanks! You are actually mad lol There's no way of proving that Well said

The plan was good it just didn't work out. Getting Kane and Bogosian for Stafford and Myers was a great trade. Stafford and Myers each had one great year then fell apart. Kane was disgruntled but very talented. Bogosian was not as good as he should have been but was tough as nails The O'Reilly trade was great only ended up trading spare parts for him Miller was aging and we got Halak who pulled a Slava Kozlov unfortunately. I was super pumped about that trade All the players he traded for got better when they left. Murray couldn't have known that Kane, Eichel and O'Reilly would be whiners who needed the spotlight. That was the down fall. Our "leaders" were all giant whiners The only thing I really didn't like was the losing on purpose. That's pretty much the weakest thing you can tell your team to do, and the players certainly didn't like it. Got worse after the fans got behind it. I believe it was Mike Weber who said he couldn't believe that the fans were okay with losing. He stunk but I agree Murray tried and failed. It was entertaining. It made sense at the time. Oh well

Oloffson should be on the second line

Literal much?

Agreed

Lol I'm not out of patience I wouldn't mind seeing a trade though. A trade is what landed us Thompson, and NOBODY thought that was good trade I fully understand what a rebuild entails

Yes he did. I just found his brand entertaining Definitely not done with ifs and maybes. The is the right plan, the full rebuild. I just don't see why you couldn't make a trade. I still think the current team can turn it around This was to be more of a hypothetical thread anyway

Lol @ Contempt

Lol pessimist

Lol how many wins this year for them then

Do you honestly think that no one is interested in any of our players?

Feathers have been ruffled And no one has really listed a trade they'd like to see I guess the Sabres are the best team in the league

How old is that LGR guy he sounds like an 80 year old get off my lawn type

How old are you guys

So you're saying he could be a rental, but rentals are overpaid for all the time. The Sabres have a ton of Cap space. The reality is Buffalo is known to be a not so great destination for players wanting to be here and not only because the team stinks Yeah yeah get a bag

Sounds like the same thing every year

Who is Terry Murray

If we had gotten McDavid you'd be singing a different tune

Nah. Everything's on the table when you've been terrible for 12 years

I think our prospects are over valued

Who is Liger?

Maybe he's saving it for Kane

Okay I see your point on Jokiharju but still don't think he's anything special at all. Have Vancouver add Schenn in there I say Vancouver because they're off to a bad start and they might also like to shake things up a bit. I'd say their roster is better right now than the Sabres. And isn't Horvat unlikely to sign? I'd take him in a second. Boeser has zero goals on the season but has been proven effective in the past To BUF: Boeser, Horvat, Schenn To VAN Two firsts (or 5 don't care seen enough Mittlestadts and Nylanders) Jokiharju Quinn Peterka And could even take more than that but I'd do it

Agree about timing because no ones desperate yet, but if you could make a player for player trade, what would it be? Do you have a specific guy in mind? Like wow he'd be great on the Sabres or something to that effect

I think it's time. We have an exorbitant amount of prospects, players and 5'10 wingers who are all the same. I get the long term approach, but how many picks do you really need to acquire? Tim Murray did it backwards he traded everything like a madman which was highly entertaining but in the end, he was a crazy man. I give him credit for trying to win RIGHT NOW but he had to go. Still not sure why he traded Neuvirth. But to make no trades at all, and to only trade for picks and prospects is clearly not working. I don't dislike Granato or Adams. A full and complete rebuild is the right idea, which is what they're doing. Hope is great, and apart of hockey, but you can't sell hope forever. It's clear we need something to shake this roster up a bit, nothing insane, but something. I would take insane though. Nothing would make me happier than to acquire a Shane Doan type. So let's hear your best trade ideas, heck even the somewhat crazy ones. A trade would get this place AMPED and rightfully so. I would trade two firsts Mittlestadt and Jokiharu for Bo Horvat and if they wanted a bit more, do it MAKE A TRADE ADAMS