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2 hours ago, shrader said:
It’s a big example of why I hate grading trades so much. It’s rough enough with one year of results to look at, doing so after 0 games played is so damn stupid. But hey, this is the kind of stuff we get with the 24/7 news cycle.
If some chump on TikTok does not do an "instant reaction" did the subject event even happen??!??
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6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:
Maybe but do you really think Chicago is positioned to make a move up next year? Or San Jose? I like some of the San Jose moves but they are still far away. Either of those teams could easily get a top pick yet again.
If Pitt gets to DRAFT YET ANOTHER generational superstar, I will burn that town down. Mario, Jags, Sid, and Geno are enough talent for 300 years of a hockey franchise's life ... STOP THE STEAL!
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5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Except it's different every time.
Different players, different coaches, different circumstances. To act like things "just happen because" is silly.
(And before you say "same owner" you need to explain how that impacts the play of the team.)
Also, the previous two seasons the Sabres were darned near EXCELLENT in the third period, but usually came out in a coma. So, it was refreshing to watch them find a new and inventive way of pissing away a season; get our hopes up early, THEN fumble it away. What new thing will they come up with next year! /s
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1 minute ago, Doohickie said:
You say that like it's a bad thing.
if consensual and in the right place, they are not ... but it is just so jarring to hear it blurted out during a hockey game
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Has no one told him to stop saying "a bit of a reach around there"?
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Just now, LGR4GM said:
Who?
wadda ya mean? 😉
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Man, Östlund reads plays well.
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lol, what a muffin shot by Hall
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Is it really just that there is "no pressure"? I mean - this style of hockey, if they could actually sustain it, could easily get a team into the 90's for points. But how many times have we seen them come out and just crap the bed ...?
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1 minute ago, Pimlach said:
Power terrible giveaway.
I don't want to sound like a Power-apologist, but the rest of the team did a terrible job supporting him - getting open or circling back to help. He needs to not telegraph that pass as much, but someone needed to get open.
He's a pretty good skater/stickhandler, not sure why he did not try to carry it.
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Ostland has looked tenacious so far.
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So you're saying there's a chance!! lol
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2 hours ago, Pimlach said:
Funny and sad. Adams priority last off season was to rebuild the 4th line in order to make the playoffs, meanwhile the Canes 4th line is filled with ex Sabres.
And this is why my eyes roll real hard whenever there is talk about how they "need to move on from" whomever the non-Cozens whipping boy is. Replace Krebs with Marner? Sure. Replace Krebs with [insert bargain basement cost-off player]? No thanks.
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I just remembered a convo I had with a buddy back in the Heroic Charge to 9th Place Season where he wanted Cozens for Patty Kane (when Kaner was with the 'Hawks) ... boy if only that could have worked out ...
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I am a total stan for Stephen King. Started reading the Dark Tower series in 10th grade (with book 4 ... thanks mom!) I have read pretty much all of his work.
Anyway, just finished up "Holly" which was a great thriller about a recurring character from one of the many amazing worlds he has created. Off the top of my head, I think this was his 5th novel with Holly in it, his first with her as the undisputed main character. (google says she was also the subject of a novella!)
I typically buy books from the airport when I am travelling for work or pleasure - so I want a reliable author that practically never disappoints, so I lean on Mr. King as often as I can.
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7 minutes ago, dudacek said:
I think sometimes this conversation bogs down in a weird conflation with "offence" meaning forwards and "defence" meaning defencemen.
Really it's about the differential, isn't it?
To me "offence" means "ability to score goals", plain and simple. The Sabres are 7th in goals for per game this season right now.*
One of the reasons why is because their defencemen are so good at offence: Byram, Power and Dahlin are literally 6th, 24, and 35th in points by defencemen: 4th, 14th and 16th in ES points. They are also a reason why the team is 29th in goals against.
Replace them with 3 Brent Pesces and I bet good money Peterka and Thompson and Tuch will certainly score fewer goals. The hope is they allow fewer as well. The key is finding the balance.
If Dylan Cozens (for illustration purposes) weighs down every linemate he plays with, you get better replacing him with a player who doesn't. Doesn't matter if that player does it primarily through offence or defence. he just needs to be a "plus" or even just less of a minus.
Bowen Byram is good offensively and lacking defensively. He's also +12 with first-pairing role on a minus hockey team. Sure you can replace him with a player who's better defensively, but if that player is a -8 in the same role, he didn't actually make the team better.
EDIT: I see you guys already covered this in the time it took me to write it. 😄
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*(Unrelated, but an interesting discovery: the Sabres were 22nd in goals for at Christmas time. They've been the league's best offence since — from 2.82 g/GP up to 3.64. Not sure what's changed, but that's over 42 games, a full half-season sample)
I never mind extra insight. I work in a heavily regulated industry where ensuring everyone's concerns are heard and explored is the norm.
So much nuance is lost in a forum style chat that it is always great to have that explanation.
The Sabres have both out-scored and under-defensed the Eulers who are comfortably sitting in third in their division. The only way I would be comfortable going into next year with only an improved offense is if the concept is to still be top-10 in GF, but have such outlandishly good puck possession numbers that the other teams don't even have the puck enough to out score the Sabres. But, I don't think that is a very realistic scenario, so the top of my personal wish list is improved team defense.
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1 minute ago, Thorner said:
Win 10-9.
win
Just freaking win already
I will be amongst the first people to faint from unfathomable joy should the Sabres ever return to the playoffs - but I gotta be honest, getting swept and utterly wasted in round 1 will not be that great of a feeling, lol. So, I am hoping (against ALL odds) that the Sabres become a better team, in all facets, next year.
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Just now, Thorner said:
That may be true, but there isn’t a cap on goals for
We aren’t so damn good offensively that any single player we could add wouldn’t be totally utilized
Yeah, for sure. Now that I reconsider my own points a little ... most of the current forwards are meh to bleh with respect to their d-zone job anyway - so if you swap out a 15 goal winger for 44 goal Nylander, perhaps all you do is add 29 goals to the goal total with minimal impact on the GA number?
I just want progress in not looking like a complete clown show in their own end. It is just embarrassing to watch.
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1 minute ago, Thorner said:
Yes it does lol
Nylander would be one of our best players. There’s a fundamental disconnect on what we think the Buffalo Sabres are
I think the point I am trying to make is that the Sabres are not (-15) (and as you pointed out, it was way worse before this meaningless late season tease) because they did not score enough, it is because they did such a horrendous job of preventing the other team from scoring.
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3 minutes ago, Thorner said:
If there was a possibly of signing Marner, for example, I would focus far more energy there than on a hypothetical 2nd pairing D man
BPA. Bottom 10 team
Playoffs should be something we think our roster has a lock on not just a chance at
We are saying the same thing ... I think adding Marner or someone of his ilk would drastically improve our team defense more than finding the ideal #6 (or even #4) D-man. Not only would his spot on the ice improve d-zone coverage dramatically - one would have to assume he would help others be better.
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2 minutes ago, Thorner said:
Can’t agree
This is a mindset thing. Yes, we are 15th in 5 V 5 differential. I think adding everywhere is a priority
It think it is just the nuance of it for me. Nothing in a vacuum. We are in the upper 1/3 of teams for GF. Adding someone like Nylander from Tor, with his notoriously poor defensive zone play does not make the Sabres a playoff team.
Adding someone who scores about as many goals as someone they replace who can also play better defensively ... now they have my attention.
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15 minutes ago, Thorner said:
You get that words have meaning, right? You can just say “disingenuous” when it doesn’t apply. Disingenuous implies and requires intent and I never said “there is no experience at the position”
We don’t have the 9th best offence. no, 9th in goals doesn’t mean 9th best offence. Not all goals are created equal, you get that too, right? It’s not ipso facto sort the standings by goals and that’s your definitive rank of “offences”. Ridiculously simplistic, entry level analysis
“Despite some of our forwards being poor 2 way players and our team defence being poor the forwards aren’t an issue”
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This is a heated exchange so I wade in with caution and with genuine interest as to what else, in hockey, defines a successful offense than goals? Or is it better to just say "we are 9th best in goals scored" and note that adding forwards that can score better than the current group need not be near the top of the priority list?
I ask because I don't think "add more scoring" fixes the Sabre next year. *Scoring forwards* are not the issue, but as I, and many many others have lamented, *TEAM* defense should be a primary concern this offseason. I think it is ever-so-slightly above "average NHL goaltending" only because in some sample size UPL played around that level ... I have yet to see this team play good team defense consistently.
Please note that in my world, "team defense" likely means getting a better assistant coach that can help fix whatever it is that we watch in front of the Sabres' goal.
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