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  1. 3 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

    I was the originator of what you term "egregious indignation." 

    You wanted a different noun there. You may have felt indignation because I was taking shots at our top 2 centres. But that's not what I was hurling. Invective maybe.

    In any event, the distinction here is low-hanging fruit. Maybe @Mango or @Big Guava. Something tropical, given the photos above. Nobody (including @nobody) would have an issue with their home team's top players being pictured on a Caribbean beach toasting each other's health (and new-found wealth) if those top players proceeded to kick much ass in the season that followed, or, as in the case of Crosby, if that player was a top-10 player of all-time, first ballot HOFer, multiple Cup winner.

    Context matters.

    I dug up that photo because it was of a piece with something that had seemed to plague the team from last offseason through this season. That "something" was confirmed by the GM in his post season press conference: A sense of having arrived. Having made it. Arrogance, as one reporter put it (and the GM didn't knock it down). Maybe even a sense of entitlement.

    So, invective is being hurled. I hope the targets don't duck from its path.

    To borrow a phrase from @nfreeman: This is obnoxious.

    I forgot to use my sarcasm font 🙂 All the bits about "egregious indignation" were meant to be mostly in jest. 

    I still stand by my point that what the players do in their free time is their business and judging them for how they do it is perplexing at best. It does not make sense to me how a person gets to put a qualifier on who may enjoy their vacation. It wasn't even just you, at all. This is similar to The Great Fortnight Uproar, or other similar criticisms on how a player (still a person) chooses to spend their free time, trying to recharge.

    By the logic above, would the 4th line center, or 13th forward of a team not be entitled to their beach time? Or mountain hikes, if that trips their trigger? 

    Yes, my comment about McDavid was intended to be obnoxious, but when taken in context, it is not that much worse than calling players out for taking a moment to recognize their good fortune. Nothing in that picture says "We have our contract, time to stop working!!" 

    It his me (yes, my opinion) the same as someone buying a new car and a co-worker, or boss, or neighbor remarking something like "I guess they pay you too much" instead of just being happy for them.

    I will say - if it came off as a specific attack on you, it was not intended - I guess I am not good at calling out general things I disagree with without accidentally pointing a finger at a specific post/poster.

  2. 5 minutes ago, dudacek said:


    The perfect world scenario is that Kyle Dubas decides it’s time to reset the Pens and fires Mike Sullivan.

    As our own @Brawndo hinted, the Ventura/Karmanos connection already knows this is coming and has already tapped Sullivan as our new “experienced, structured and accountable” coach.

    The Dubas rebuild offends the PIttsburgh locker room, leading to the UFA in the above photo to take his tone-setting, faceoff-winning, line-driving, ultra-accountable, Pegula-dog-namesake 1C talents to join the new Ventura/Karmanos/Sullivan axis of evil on the Niagara frontier.

    It is the off-season, and long-suffering Sabrefans are allowed to dream.

    But he is on a beach ... he can't possibly be committed to winning any more.

  3. 20 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

    I'd love this team. The chill vibes and bro fest is embarrassing for a team that hasn't never been to playoffs. 

    I think he needs to spend the summer with Benson and Quinn learning how to win battles. 

    Insane buffness aside - OMG! Sidney Crosby on a beach! He must not be committed to hockey!!!!!

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    It's like everyone expects every player to be doing off-ice stick handling drills every second they are not ON the ice or in whatever magical weight room everyone assumes will make them "grittier". Joseph Smith ... they are people - they get to take vacations. 

    **not directing this specifically at our friendly neighborhood Liger - I was just too lazy to keep scrolling to find the egregious indignation being hurled at Dylan and Tage for taking a beat to rest.

  4. 17 hours ago, Carmel Corn said:

    The more I listen to players reacting to a coach being fired, the more it sounds the same (i.e. theme of accountability, etc.).  This one was kind of interesting when Berube was fired....I don't put too much emphasis on this (one way or another).

    https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/blues_star_has_ice_cold_response_to_firing_of_hc_craig_berube/s1_13132_39674250

    They fired him and still didn't make the playoffs - mayhaps he was not the problem?

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  5. On 4/12/2024 at 3:07 PM, PerreaultForever said:

    Probably, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a sophomore slump and an uneven development. I just hope we don't ruin him and he becomes like some of the other slackers. The guy is different and he stands out because of it relative to the others. He's been coached differently and his attitude is different. Kid is a hockey player and he brings it. 

    He is without a doubt the best thing about this bad season. 

    I am not an expert on this (or really anything, but I'll save that for the couch), but I would think he is a good candidate to avoid, or have a minimal, sophomore slump. I am thinking it is because of his versatility - he performed in many different roles and was not necessarily shielded from situations. I don't know that he would be asked to do all that much more next year. I think his ability to play so many games in a relatively physical manner this year is a great sign.

    I can see three potential scenarios where he could "slump"

    1. He puts too much pressure on himself to do significantly better.
    2. His role changes dramatically. New Coach either scales back his role or dramatically increases it.
    3. The fictional SabreSpace Owen Power Regression. Fans expect a significant step forward and when it does not come, the player is declared a bust even tho they are arguably played just as well or even slightly better their second year.

    JJ avoid "the slump". He was a little "up and down" or "streaky" in his rookie year and that continued this year, but both the highs and lows were higher.

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  6. 8 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

    You are evading the point that Flyers were not expected to be any good. Sabres were. 

    The 3 teams that were expected to challenge for the playoffs were Buffalo, Ottawa and Detroit. They all failed but Detroit almost got there and did improve to jump over Buffalo.

    Flyers, were expected to be in the Cellebrini sweepstakes with San Jose and Anaheim. 

    So the Flyers finishing ahead of Buffalo screams to Buffalo's failure. 

    doesn't matter, torts is a tart.

  7. 4 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

    Former Blackhawks player Kyle Beach says Quenneville knew the coach raped him and did nothing about it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/chicago-blackhawks-kyle-beach-rape-florida-panthers-joel-quenneville/

     

    I will say, if Q knew (the official report was inconclusive on how much he knew and when) and "upper management" - which a HC is not part of, nor would the HC have the actual ability to quash an investigation (though he could have advocated to "push it off" during the Cup run) - if management decided to do nothing and he had any integrity, he absolutely should have taken it public. No doubt.

    Thinking about it more - for the NHL to essentially ban Q from coaching, I don't see how Q's public account of the facts can be true. I will now jump off the Q train - I don't like this.

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  8. 2 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

    The interesting name is Sullivan in Pittsburgh but he signed a massive deal and helped in the search for the GM (Dubas) so I don’t know where he stands.

    Adams and Brindamour are friends so if he knew Brindamour was leaving then he would have a different tune and say he is waiting for the playoffs to end.

    Speedy response, I see where you get your name. Good on ya!

  9. 5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

    As I listened, I thought about Lindy a few times. His comments took me there.  

    The fact that he is not necessarily waiting for the playoffs to end says the exhaustive search will be semi exhaustive. 

     

     

    Are there any coaches that could get canned if they flunk out in the first round? Beyond that? No sarcasm - genuinely curious how warm/hot some of those seats might be. I'd think after the first round, not too many? In which case, GMKA (not sure if I am fully comfortable diving right into using GM Howdy Doody) could start now, dilly dally just a little, see what round 1 holds, then full speed ahead?

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  10. 16 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

    He's only sorry because he got caught I can't forgive people like him

    He ruined a career for a kid so his career should be ruined also

    That is not really an even remotely accurate account. I am not saying Q was clean in all of it, but I think many layers of the Blackhawks' organization failed before Q. If your VP tells you there is some sort of incident involving inappropriate texts in another division of the company, but says they have it under control ... it is not at all unreasonable to think they do.

    Only angle on Q is since the kid was a prospect with the team's minor league affiliate, he could have taken a larger role in ensuring the team actually took care of it properly instead of burying it. All accounts say the club's HR knew about it in 2010. 11 years before the lawsuit and 11 years before Q can be directly tied to definitive knowledge of the allegations.

    What bothered me about his account ... he says he only learned about the details on the plane on his way to get shitcanned by the NHL ... but he had sat for interviews months before with the independent firm hired to investigate. Either his is lying, 'misremembering', or that deposition was vague as hell ....

  11. 2 hours ago, #freejame said:

    I would be completely unbothered by Quinnville but I don’t think Terry would be. 

    I did some reading on the subject - I think Q coulda handled it differently - but nothing in the official report suggests he knew what was going on. He was the Head Coach of the NHL team - the video coach allegedly (but based on the fact he got arrested 2 years later for assaulting a 16 yr old, "alleged" is a courtesy that POS likely does not deserve) assaulted a player with the 'Hawks minor league affiliate. The player was not on the big club roster. 

    It is a gray area, but I don't know that any HC would have done more since Q was supposedly only told about an inappropriate text or two at the time. It is not ideal, but I can sorta see how this might seem like something you could address "later" if you are busy with the playoffs trying to win a Cup.

    I get the opposition, but at the same time - he took his lumps and walked away as he was asked to do. No big "witch hunt" tour or "Poor me" pitty parties.

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