PotentPowerPlay22
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Meh? Meh.
Yawn!
I don't see much here. The gave up nothing much and received nothing much (maybe a little bigger)
Tim Murray might get stuck holding Chad Johnson and receive nothing for him. He might get something for McGinn, but the price is dropping as teams complete their moves. I hope Murray shows me something clever before tomorrow.
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I would love to get JT Compher back from Colorado somehow. I really wish they kept him. Foligno is expendable in my book.
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We're going 3-0 in California, you heard it here first.
Okay. Do you care to revise your remarks?
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yep, 13 points out while playing 2 more games than most PLUS O'Reilly being out........that pretty much does it for me.
Let's be realistic here. Through Feb 21, 2016 the Sabres have a 0.2% chance of making the playoffs. The GM must sell before the trade deadline to recover something from the pending UFA's. It only makes sense from a practical point of view to finish as close to the bottom as possible to increase the odds for a better draft position. I know the players will give 100% to try to win every game and I'm not talking about players tanking at all. The management must realize that this is not their year to shine. Maybe the lottery will reward the Sabres this year after the last two years of being unlucky at the draft. (The thought of Edmonton winning again makes me want to scream!)
Murray must let trade away McGinn, Johnson, Weber, etc. and whoever can bring something back in return. He can try to re-sign McGinn in the summer. The season started with promise, but who knew Ennis would be hurt all year and who predicted Moulson would implode so spectacularly?
If I were GM, I would sell or trade players who I felt had no future with team looking out two or more years. Everyone but the core group of about 10 players could possibly be moved. Murray depleted the stockpile of assets he inherited really quickly to get Kane and O'Reilly. Now it's time for him to prove his worth going forward.
With a top 3 pick, the future could get brighter much sooner than picking 8th or later.
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Sabres now in 29th
Auston Matthews.
It would be poetic justice. After tanking and finishing last two years in a row and failing to get the no. 1 pick, it would only be fair to not finish last and get still get the top pick!
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http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_team/Buffalo_Sabres/1
Murray's trades:
Ryan O'Reilly and Jamie McGinn for Nikita Zadorov, Mikhail Grigorenko, JT Compher, 2015 2nd
Grade: A++ so far
Robin Lehner and David Legwand for a 2015 1st (21st overall)
Grade: TBD
2016 5th for Brian Flynn
Grade: C
Chad Johnson and 2016 3rd for Michal Neuvirth
Grade: B
Jack Nevins and a 2016 7th for Torrey Mitchell
Grade: C-
Chris Stewart for a 2017 2nd
Grade: C (had better offers earlier and missed out/overvalued asset)
Jason Kasdorf, Zach Bogogian and Evander Kane for Brendan Lemieux, Joel Armia, Drew Stafford, Tyler Myers and a 2015 1st
Grade: B so far, bonus points for tank assist
Anders Lindback and a 2016 3rd for Jhonas Enroth
Grade: B+
Jerry D'Amigo for Luke Adam
Grade: LOL WHO CARES
Jordan Samuels-Thomas for nothing
Grade: A for "ask me if I care"
Josh Gorges for 2016 2nd
Grade: B+
Hudson Fasching and Nic Deslauriers for two 2nds, Brayden McNabb and Jonathan Parker
Grade: TBD, hinges purely on Fasching as McNabb and Deslauriers have defined their roles
Torrey Mitchel, 2014 2nd and 2016 2nd for Matt Moulson and Cody McCormick
Grade: A+ (got two picks for two players he re-signed, helped tank)
Michal Neuvirth and Rostislav Klesla for Jaroslav Halak and a 2015 3rd
Grade: C+
Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, 2015 1st and 2016 3rd for Ryan Miller and Steve Ott
Grade: B
This is purely my opinion. I think he has done very well for himself. Several trades helped the tank and acquired assets that were either sold off or held for the future.
It's too early to evaluate these trades.
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The game has changed. The goalies and their equipment have become huge. If you look at the pads the goalies wear now compared to 20 or more years ago, the difference is staggering. The huge pads make it harder to score. Fewer goals is obviously less exciting for the most part. Boring.
In addition, the game is played along the boards constantly. The players have their backs to the goal and it is just one long scuffle trying to circle the puck from one side of the ice to the other along the boards. Boring.
The defensemen also wear bigger and better pads which allows them to block so many shots without fear. It is very difficult to get shots through to the goal. Boring.
The rules of the game have put a damper on hitting too. The added hard pads the players wear on elbows and shoulders are like weapons and can cause serious damage to heads. Every hit in a vulnerable spot can cause injury now. The league has decided that hitting is the problem and is trying to legislate it out of the game. The problem may be the body armor that has become weaponized. No hiiting can be boring.
Also, the ice surface is too small. There is no room to skate. Fast, skilled skaters have been replaced by grinders. The game is played along the boards where the grinders chug along. Boring.
I've watched a lot of hockey over the years and I can say without hesitation that the game is not that interesting anymore. I try to watch a game on TV and it just bores me.
I don't think I'm alone. The league better wake up.
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The Sabres Johnson stood tall in net tonight. His inconsistencies are very random. For example, if this were a Thursday night, would that last good chance for the Wings have gone in?
Johnson has been excellent. I thought Neuvirth and Lindback were very good also last year.
[ I said it before and I'll say it again, I still think GM Murray made a mistake trading a 1st rounder for Lehner.]
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Wow! The sky is the limit for Risto!
What a player!!!
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Rex Ryan for sure.
Ditto.
Rex Ryan is an embarrassment to Buffalo. Buffalo fans deserve better. Remember what a class act the Bills had with Marv Levy? Intelligent, well spoken a real gentleman and good coach too!
This is what kind of coach that makes Buffalo proud. Rex Ryan is just the opposite in every way.
Nobody can tolerate a buffoon for long. Rex is a buffoon!
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Tim Murray
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Rheinhardt
Samson Reinhart
At least spell it correctly!
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I don't have time to search for the Cody Franson thread, but I read this analytics article about him and it is very interesting for Sabres fans.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/why-cody-franson-is-the-nhls-best-bargain-player/
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On paper, I think this is a good solid signing. It's a two year deal that only cost the Sabres money. No prospects were sacrificed to help the team. By definition, this is good.
I think Franson adds to the power play for sure. He also adds veteran depth on a back line that is relatively thin. Overall, I like it.
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He's a real NHL defenceman that costs nothing but money.
We got money. Get 'er done.
He is definitely worth a shot. I like obtaining assets for money alone. Money is far less risky than trading away draft picks and prospects. He can always be traded down the road if necessary.
I hope he signs with the Sabres.
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I think GMTM took the easy road there. Sure all Cunney does is win and gets the best out of players. But he hasn't won the Calder!
Cunneyworth had a great year as Amerks coach in 2004-2005, but otherwise he was a .500 coach. I hope for the best, but I am not too excited to be honest. It sure does look like Murray took the easy way after waiting so long.
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I really enjoy how impaired driving is viewed as a joke to many people here. Maybe some of you should be so lucky to have someone in your family killed by a drunk driver.
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We stocked up on assets to use them. Some of the guys we drafted with extra picks are part of the future moving forward (Girgensons) and others were moved for other players (Zadarov, Compher). And now the Sabres are in way better shape than they were before the rebuild started. This is the reason we wanted a rebuild.
Peter Chiarelli wouldn’t take all the credit for what the Edmonton Oilers did at the NHL Draft, stating that Craig MacTavish was the one who laid down the foundation that allowed him to do what he did.
Chiarelli showed some class.
It's too bad Tim Murray didn't have the class to acknowledge the work of Darcy Regier. Regier took all the pain of tearing down and stockpiling the assets that Murray so rapidly and happily traded away. Trader Tim was the beneficiary from some of the great trades Regier made near the end of his term. To my knowledge, GMTM has never even spoken the name of Darcy Regier in any public comment. It wouldn't kill Murray if he acknowledged the work his predecessor did that has helped him greatly.
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Murray has essentially traded six first round picks (players that were first round picks or picks to be made in those rounds) and four second round picks (Lemieux and three second round picks to be made) for an amazing total of ten first/second round picks or players drafted in those rounds that have been traded during his short tenure as GM. I would have thought that most new GMs would have relished the idea of drafting players in the first and second rounds, but that is not the way Murray has operated. Not too sure about the overall value received in exchange for all of these assets. I think he overpaid in the Kane deal and overpaid significantly to acquire Lehner.
Short summary which does not include all of the components of the various trades:
Fasching: two second round picks.
Kane/Bogosian: Myers (first round), Armia (first round), Lemieux (second round), first round pick (2015)
Lehner: first round pick (2015)
O'Reilly/McGinn: Zadorov (first round), Grigorenko (first round), second round pick (2015)
Seven 1st round picks counting Stafford.
I remember the euphoria when the Bills got Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie and most of all Drew Bledsoe. Don't fight the euphoria the day after. Time will tell. Murray gambled a big chunk of the future on the near term and nobody knows how it will ultimately turn out.
I had criticized the Bledsoe trade the minute it happened until he eventually left Buffalo. At the time about 99% of the fans were ecstatic and they wondered (in no uncertain terms!) why I doubted the value of the trade, but time revealed the truth.
Time will tell if Murray used all the assets wisely. Most every one of these assets were accumulated by Darcy Regier in several excellent trades.
I still believe he blew the Robin Lehner trade. A 1st round pick was too much considering the number of goalies available. Other good goalies were acquired for less. The O'Reilly trade is less clear. I really think Zadorov and Compher will be missed dearly in the long run.
We will see.
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#murrayhatesrussians
Murray trades 1st round draft picks like he is throwing out junk mail. He has now traded away 7 players/picks from the 1st round in addition to 3 second round picks from the top 5 of the second round.
Ten premium picks he has traded away. The short term should definitely improve, but he has unloaded some top prospects as a result. And still Cody Hodgson is a Sabre!
I loved the idea of Brendan Lemieux and JT Compher playing together for the Sabres, but now it's history.
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Wow. Look, he essentially "drafted" a 24-year-old, ready-to-play goaltender instead of an unknown 18 year old prospect, and people are going ape####.
Lehner is arguably no better than Lindback or Neuvirth or Enroth. You could get any one of these goaltenders without giving up anything but salary! This is a bad freaking trade!! Giving up a 1st round choice for an average goaltender is irresponsible and shows bad judgment by Murray. Murray brags about drafting Corey Perry with the 28th pick. The Sabres selected Tyler Ennis 26th. The 21st pick in a deep draft is a valuable pick!
Murray blew it! (again)
http://www.tsn.ca/sabres-pay-the-price-to-get-lehner-1.318675
"At 6-foot-5, Lehner's frame covers a lot of the net, and when he's on, he looks every bit a future number one goaltender. However, his focus isn't always where it needs to be. Using War-on-Ice's definitions for low-medium-high danger save percentages, Lehner ranked 52nd out of 53 goaltenders that played at least 1000 5-on-5 minutes last season when it came to low-danger shots. Those are the ones that he really should stop."
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Exactly, he traded a 12th, a 15th, a 16th a 21st and a 2nd round pick for a 3rd and a 4th. Go back in history and find how many drafts that would not have been a great trade.
Exactly, he traded a 12th, a 15th, a 16th a 21st and a 31st for a 3rd and a 4th. I think he paid too much! He just paid another 1st for a second round goalie with a potential career threatening health issue plus a washed up big salary dump.
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Here is what I fear: he trades #21 for a goalie like Cam Talbot. The price is too high. There are numerous goalies who are available in free agency who can do the job in the short term. I thought Neuvirth and Lindback played well last year.
My worst fear comes true. Murray is pissing away first round picks like bottle caps!!! The number of top picks (players drafted in the first round and 1st round picks) he has traded is staggering!!!
It takes a lot of rationalization to make sense of this idiotic trade!
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Absolutely hate this trade. Trash.
Absolutely terrible trade! I was afraid this would happen. There are several free agent goalies as good as Lehner without health problems. Tim Murray has lost every trade he has made so far. LA, WIN, and OTT have all see him overpay. WTF?
Trade Deadline 2016
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GM Tim Murray has proved he can trade former 1st round draft picks, future 1st round draft picks and other prospects for players, but he hasn't made a believer out of me. It can be argued that almost all of his other deals he received less than he gained.
I'm still waiting for his reputation as a scouting "genius" to show itself in real terms.