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2 hours ago, Cage said:
Shame on all those who wanted to trade him and/or switch him to forward
Let's pull up all the threads/posts about how he sucks and should traded. I love reminiscing about adamant fans being wrong.
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G) Because ownership sucks and since nothing has changed with ownership the team must still suck.
Nothing but sarcasm above, but it kills me that so many fans thought the team was horrible because of Kim Pegula; now their myopic mind and silly rants just ride off into the sunset without accountability of how absurd their claim was. AND, some will even double down and Kim is still to blame and that it took to long to build the right culture. And then point to their reckless decision to lay off Harbor Center employees at the start of Covid in 2020. The remainder will say Kim must not be involving herself day-to-day anymore and that explains the sudden surge in team performance.
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2 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said:
This is debatable. It could be argued that Brady never becomes Brady without Belicheat. Or Mahomes doesn’t become who he is without Reid. Or Allen doesn’t become as good as he is without McD.
Agreed - Sam Darnold was horrible in NY, but he gets shipped to Carolina and they put coaches and pieces around him and he suddenly looks more than serviceable. On a related note, I always wonder what Grigorenko or another rushed player would have developed into had the organization not mismanaged them or had they simply gone elsewhere.
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2 hours ago, New Scotland (NS) said:
Interesting thought. I really don't think the Pegulas are planning on selling the team.
They are inempt in one regard only, IMO, which is the fact that they have had no success in hiring people for the most important positions on the team ... GM and coach. I am not sure if they are ignoring advice or are listening to the advice of idiots. Maybe this time they have it right or maybe this time they will get lucky like with the Bills.
I actually believe that there are worse owners out there. That guy in Ottawa, for example, although he seems to be staying out of everybodies way now.
2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:You'll have to connect the dots. Why would gutting the team make it more attractive to new owners?
Because that's what they did in the movie Major League.
2 hours ago, New Scotland (NS) said:Interesting thought. I really don't think the Pegulas are planning on selling the team.
They are inempt in one regard only, IMO, which is the fact that they have had no success in hiring people for the most important positions on the team ... GM and coach. I am not sure if they are ignoring advice or are listening to the advice of idiots. Maybe this time they have it right or maybe this time they will get lucky like with the Bills.
I actually believe that there are worse owners out there. That guy in Ottawa, for example, although he seems to be staying out of everybodies way now.
The meddling owners talk is fatiguing. Do people think Pegulas are football experts but morons when it comes to hockey? Reality check... they don't know ***** about either sport. To the best of my knowledge, for both sports, they listen to advice and consultants, then they try to bring in someone to run the operations. They are not meddling in hockey more than football -- it's just that they haven't found the right hire in hockey. Football fans love the Pegulas because the team is winning. It wasn't overnight that this happened. They went through many GMs and coaches for the Bills until they found the right fit. They have a GM, a coach with a great culture mindset, and a key player -- Josh Allen -- to represent that message with a great skillset.
Compared to hockey, they haven't found the right mix. Moving on from Eichel is their realization that he's not the person to build around, like they did with Allen. Problem is, you don't find many players with Eichel-like talent and so you better be damn sure. We saw that with a mix of GMs and coaches while Eichel was here perhaps hoping they could salvage Eichel's character deficiencies. And when I say deficiencies, I simply mean having the intangibles found with Josh Allen. I'm not saying Eichel is a dick, or a train wreck, or a masochist -- I'm saying he is not an ingredient in the formula that worked when building the Bills.
I don't understand the mindset of "the owners are screwing everything up." They're making moves to build the right culture. Once it they have the winning formula, the team will have success.
Relate their process to your own life. You've been on a job interview, right? Unless you're the best in your field, you had to "sell" the hiring manager and your new company on why you're the right person. The fact that you put in two years, while complaining that the company doesn't know what they're doing and leaving for greener pastures hits close to home, doesn't it? The Sabres are going through the same process. Someone seems like the right fit -- Krueger seemed like the hockey whisperer... didn't pan out, but damn did he sell them a bill of goods. And Jack was the right pick at 2nd overall. Can you imagine if GMTM decided to pass on Jack Eichel because they had an epiphany that that Jack's character was something they didn't want to build around. No, in fact, Jack made a comment -- Buffalo, I'm coming for you, and everyone creamed their pants. And his intention had nothing to do with playing for the franchise, but we made it something that we wanted. Holy *****! It's a process. It's not that the owners are incompetent. They may make bad decisions, but as with the Bills, I am hopeful that they will find the right mix. I think parting ways with Jack is a big step in the right direction.
Changing owners is not going to bring in owners who possess a crystal ball.
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12 hours ago, Claude Balls said:
Pretty cool video of the VH sound check from Silver Stadium in Rochester back in 86. The one and only time I saw them live. BTO and Kim Mitchell opened up for them. I had forgotten about Sammy climbing the scaffolding to the top.....without safety equipment. Maybe because it was the one and only time I tried shrooms.
This was my first concert - I was 11 y/o and went with my older brothers and sister. It was crazy! I had been a big VH fan but was hooked from that point on. Went on to see VH whenever they came to the Buffalo area -- Darien Lakes, HSBC; even Boston when Gary Cherone was the lead. One of the great memories I have of my younger days was attending all these events with my brothers.
Always had considered Eddie the best at his trade. RIP Edward.
And although, I am a fan of Alex, I always thought Neil Peart was the best drummer in the world. I cannot believe they're both gone this year.
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On 10/5/2020 at 8:43 AM, SHAAAUGHT!!! said:
I've played in as many NHL playoff games as Risto. There are low cost veterans that are still serviceable on the market that would help this team on the ice - and in the locker room. Could Risto be the mentor to these younger Dmen? Probably. Is he the best guy for that role? Probably not.
Risto is relegated to a serviceable D-man? I think naught.
And, when the team needs an edge, I hate the idea of the guy who plays that way mentoring the younger players. [sarcasm]
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Boy - it's no wonder Tampa has won the Cup every year. Granted there have been changes to the lineup, but the horses you described - Stamkos, Point, Kucherov, Sergachev, Hedman - have been there since 2017.
Good thing the '80 USA men's team didn't look at the Russian roster with your mindset.
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14 hours ago, Thorny said:
The tone of your post troubles me, since you seem to have insider connections.
I am merely a fan -- don't know any inner workings or insiders. My historical account surely reflects that.
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1 hour ago, dudacek said:
I like the way you answered these questions --- no offense to the other posters. You left room for clarification and so I will elaborate on a couple of your responses:
Would Kim Pegula still trouble you?
Still?
I guess I wrote "still" because I cannot find anyone who seems to be complacent with the current ownership and leadership structure. People rip the Pegulas for their operational blunders and business decisions but I am actually not seeing it as a problem, so for me, it isn't a "still." I think my intention was -- if a high end free agent was brought in, would you finally back off your criticism of management?
Would you be upset because they still don't have the 2nd line center?
Well sure, but what does this have to do with Taylor Hall?
If you're spending big on Hall, how much cap space remains to bring in a legit 2nd line center?
Would you be upset because they still haven't traded Ristolainen?
I’d like them to keep Ristolainen
Holy $hit! I'm not the only one?
Would you see that acquisition as enough attempted improvement to the forwards that you'd concede Cozens time to grow into his role?
You mean “does this give Cozens a better chance to succeed?” Possibly. Or “does this make it easier to live with our centre spine?” Not at all.
My intention was more towards the 2nd option you present.
What would a move like that do for you? Yeah, I hear Calgary is the desired destination for Taylor Hall, but I'm just curious. If they pull off this move, would it change your opinion of current operations?
I don’t have an opinion yet on Adams, but the amount I approve of this move what largely be tied to the contract Hall signed, and the other moves it would (should) be tied to.
I agree that one move isn't going to paint a complete picture on Adams. But that would be a major acquisition!
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If Buffalo went into free agency and pays enough for Taylor Hall to come to Buffalo and he signs, would you be happy?
Would Kim Pegula still trouble you?
Would you be upset because they still don't have the 2nd line center?
Would you be upset because they still haven't traded Ristolainen?
Would you damn the team for spending so close to the cap that they limit their ability to make future acquisitions?
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Would you be excited for the team?
Would you be back in the seats when allowed to attend games?
Would you see that acquisition as enough attempted improvement to the forwards that you'd concede Cozens time to grow into his role?
What would a move like that do for you? Yeah, I hear Calgary is the desired destination for Taylor Hall, but I'm just curious. If they pull off this move, would it change your opinion of current operations?
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He is pretty dark - enjoy:
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7 minutes ago, Zamboni said:
There’s something to be said about a comedian who can be very funny and “clean“... it’s very hard to do… And the master of that would be Bill Cosby.
for me… Dave Chapelle is up there.
I think an alternate list would be the best comedians who were born After 1970 ?
Brian Regan is hilarious and has a clean act. One of my favorites. The opposite end of the spectrum, have you heard Anthony Jeselnik?
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On 6/19/2020 at 2:31 PM, Kruppstahl said:
"Didn't properly monitor the HVAC."
I believe that means they melted the ice, turned off the lights, killed the power to save a few nickels, and locked the doors.
LOL.
*As an aside; Buffalo was never going to be a hub city, and it never will. It doesn't have the hotel room capacity to support a bunch of teams camped up in town at the same time.
It's one of the reasons why Vegas is desirable. I believe they have a couple more hotel rooms there than in Buffalo.
I don't know hotel capacity of Buffalo, but it sounds like your rejection of this notion is pure speculation. I have to think that an NFL football team with a roster that is 3 times the size of a hockey team can be accommodated, then there is capacity to room "a bunch of teams."
Frankly, it sounds like you're just trying to bash the *****-show that has been, and are dumping on Buffalo as a less than ideal destination. I don't see it.
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16 hours ago, RVJ said:
Im fine with them making the playoffs, as long were not giving up our lottery slot.
I had similar thoughts -- does this playoff format impact their draft position. It would be quite the snub should the Sabres "earn" a playoff spot and then pick ahead of the Rangers in the draft. And imagine they actually go a round or two and then get a top-3 lottery pick -- wishful thinking on both fronts.
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On 4/28/2020 at 9:30 PM, nfreeman said:
Interesting.
Has anyone formulated an opinion about Chad D., especially whether he has good inside info? I've read some of his stuff but not enough to come to any conclusions.
I don't like his stuff. I think he gets too emotional about his narrative and will find data that seems to reflect his position; I think he cherry picks. When you start finding data to support your narrative, instead of using data to form a hypothesis, it makes for a weak conclusion.
If I'm not mistaken, Chad evaluated Montour's stats while with Anaheim and he signed off on liking the trade. Now, the stats don't look so good so it's suddenly not the player, but the system. Yet with Ristolainen, it's not the system, it's player because Risto's numbers don't look good. I am not a fan of analytics for this reason. And I am not a fan of the Chad.
I think you will find that people like him: Because the Sabres are struggling, his narrative is that the team needs to be completely ripped down, so people who are in that camp will love him. But Joe Schmo who doesn't run analytics but knows hockey feels the same way -- the team is in a slump and changes must happen. The difference, and the issue I have, is that Chad claims to have expertise and science backing his message -- I don't see it.
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17 hours ago, Curt said:
One thing Sabres related about this that has disappointed me thus far is their inaction in building up their “analytics” department. This is one avenue where Pegula could use his extra bucks to the organization’s benefit.
I was hoping (still hope) that Krueger coming on board could spur this on, with him being exposed to similar stuff in the football world. It would be nice if Buffalo could be a team that is quick to make use of this new information that will be available to them, instead of a team that realizes 5 yrs from now that they are very behind the curve.
I thought it was interesting when they asked the NHL All Stars if they looked at analytics and most said they don't. I find it interesting that across the league, players are not clamoring for this data, and they are not having it forced upon them by their coaching staff. Yet, as fans, Corsi and these related charts mean so much.
About a month ago, WGR550 was talking about how -- I think it was the Baltimore Ravens -- had just hired a Psychologist on their staff for helping them making better decisions. (I cannot remember their exact title, but it was someone to guide decisions when emotions come into play; at least that's how I took it.) Schopp has openly been against momentum, yet he did not scoff at the idea of such a hiring. They didn't hire a mathematician to analyze data and look for patterns. Strange.
Yet as fans, we want Ristolainen traded because he has a horrible... whatever stupid stat you want to call it.
I'm not a fan -- assemble a good team, with a coach who can get the most out of them and not be outcoached. Then it's up to the players to provide the wins. I'll keep track of Ws, Goals, and Assists. The other stuff is noise.
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On 12/6/2019 at 8:24 AM, LGR4GM said:
You don't think coaches and gms get emotional or emotionally attached to players and ideas then?
Last year during the streak lots of people were super pumped about the Sabres and a bunch of fans, myself included, looked at the underlying numbers and said we need to use caution and the team still has issues. We were loudly shouted down. What is my point, you are implying that a fan cannot be objective and most probably can't but that goes in both directions where Coaches and GMs are not always objective either.
Until the Sabres start to prove they actually know how to win and what moves it takes to win, I will question them. Honestly what you are describing is some blind loyalty to the team that I will never adopt.
On 12/6/2019 at 10:17 AM, LGR4GM said:I am reporting this post. No reason for a personal attack and you aren't adding anything to the conversation.
I highlighted the bolded parts of your response to indicate specifically what I mean.
Final thought, I am not wrong about Ristolainen. He's a #4 defender.
On 12/6/2019 at 11:09 AM, Hank said:I'm not sure arrogance is the right word, but I also don't think it's totally unfair. As I told you in another thread a few days ago, you seem to have an inability to accept that it's okay for people to have a different opinion to yours and tirelessly try to convince people that "your" opinion is the"right" opinion. You are sometimes condescending and dismissive while doing so. How many different posters on how many different topics will it take for you to realize that you may have a hand in why you feel so many posters take issue with you?
So, the first post I highlighted, you self-anoint yourself as an expert. I didn't realize I was in the presence of a hockey savant.
The second, you make a statement that is the equivalent of me saying Ristolainen is a Vezina candidate. I don't believe that, but I also don't believe your statement to be correct. But you say it with so much confidence that you exude there is no debate. It's an opinion and as much as your ego makes you think everything you believe is gospel, which is beautifully articulated in the 3rd post; sorry -- but just because it's your opinion, doesn't mean it is right.
I have watched the last couple games with emphasis on the defense. Bogo is struggling. Joki is probably the next one with bad decisions. But because he is the newest golden child and hope for the team, his is on a pedestal and his mistakes are ignored. I have seen solid performances out of Risto -- but you will not acknowledge that. Because it goes against your narrative.
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I love stuff like this...
I hope you enjoy it too.
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8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
I am not seeing this. Not with the regularity you are implying.
I acknowledged he was a #4 defender but would not put him higher and I think he gets to that #4 spot because he can operate on the powerplay.
And he has been bad when given those minutes as evidence by basically all the metrics and eye tests. Hence why I keep labeling him as a #4 defender.
I refuse to rely solely on a coach or gm because they are a coach or gm. There's lots of bad coaches and gms who have been wrong just like there are with fans. I will continue to question what they do until they prove to me they know what they are doing. I find it interesting that for several years this board has argued for Risto to get less minutes and we have seen improvement in team and personal play when they occurred in the last couple weeks.
Fans have knee-jerk reactions and are all over the place with their emotional side. When the team wins, we are going to the Cup. When they lose, it is because the entire team sucks and everything is picked apart. It's madness. I will stick with the coach only because that person knows what they have asked of the athlete. Again, how do you know what they ask their lineup to do against the opponent's top line?
Two opposing opinions on this. When Risto wins a battle and feeds it up the wall to the winger, I will certainly see that. And when he makes a bad passes, you'll see that. And we (and other fans) are so caught up in being right and our preconceived notions, that we don't notice the other side. (I will say I notice it, but I can live with it because I think he does other things that I like.)
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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
Took me a second to find the article. https://theathletic.com/974041/2019/05/13/stimson-a-few-key-stats-the-next-sabres-coaching-staff-should-use-when-considering-rasmus-ristolainens-usage/
I know you specifically asked for numbers of uncontrolled exits but I will admit to not have them. It is an observation of mine. Even if it is wrong, he was bad at using help to exit the zone or doing it himself. It will be interesting to see how these numbers look now. I again could not find them from the start of this year so I cannot prove my point. You have me there on actually producing the numbers/facts for how I view Risto this season.
I think it is consensus that Risto has logged "tough" minutes -- lined up against the other teams top players. Wouldn't you expect he would have a tougher time getting it out of the zone against better competition? And do we know what the team strategy is? Is it to get it out of the zone and survive the other team's top line? Without being in the locker room, that's why I will rely on a coach over any fan when it comes to player evaluation.
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1 hour ago, Pimlach said:
McCabe and Risto scare no one. Nobody. Neither can fight.
Look up the 1998 brawl between Buffalo and Vancouver. Odjick ran Hasek and the Sabres responded immediately with whoever was in the ice. That did not stop Barnaby from running the Canuck (Burke) goalie immediately on the next shift . During that melee Ray pummeled Linden so Breashear attacked Pecaa first chance he got. Shields got in the game and fought Burke in the 2nd Donnybrook.
None of this will ever happen in today’s league.
That's right. Fighters do not take roster spots anymore. So it doesn't bother me that neither can fight. I like the physical presence they bring. I never said I love that they fight.
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3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:
But they still played the game. How are they a deterrent if they were in the game and did nothing after it happened. What is that deterring anyone from doing?
Would you trade Reinhart for Lucic?
I already hear about how soft this team is.
Still a weak argument when the eye test and numbers all confirm the same thing, Risto isn't a top 2 defender.
Nope. But I also wouldn't trade away Risto.
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4 minutes ago, Curt said:
How are they a deterrent if they don’t deter? Honest question.
Let's see... if you see a policeman patrolling the thruway, you probably slow down if you're speeding. If you use Waze and think there is a policeman in the upcoming median, you may slow down. If you have a lead foot and do not believe there is a policeman in the upcoming stretch, you are probably going to continue cruising.
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I clearly remember that game. I enjoyed the game within the game between Foligno and Komisarek. The two are clearly going at it. Komisarek looked like a fool after the faceoff when he tried to take Foligno's body and whiffed. He was so "embarrassed" that instead of worrying about the play, he focused on working Foligno over. Sure, maybe it was a good hockey play to take a body and keep his man tied up, but what he did is beyond that. Foligno got into his head and you can see Komisarek's mind was elsewhere. I loved that turn of events.