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12 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:
You trade him and create a hole you can't fill on D. Sign him for 2 years, play him with Dahlin. See what happens
As for the forwards. The Sabres are a draft and develop team it's time for one of their high draft picks to grab the bull by the horns and take a spot in the top 6
Quinn - we know he can do it. Hopefully becomes the player we thought he would be prior to injuries
or Rosen - This is it for him. Hopefully not a tweener (AHL / NHL) but he has to show it this year
Helenius - has a shot, they said he was close coming into last year... probably starts in AHL but hopefully takes a big step forward
I think Rosen is a tweener. It's a year early for Helenius. They're betting on Quinn.
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1 minute ago, Weave said:
Wouldn’t that be delicious in an awful kind of way if the key piece in the Reinhart trade doesn’t want to be here?
That one would surprise me, with an obvious opening at goalie. There's enough terrible to dwell upon.
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23 minutes ago, Brawndo said:
Here are some other updates that Chad has from his latest article
If #10 is true, just utterly unforgivable. And it probably is true.
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2 minutes ago, Taro T said:
Kisakov not getting a QO makes a ton of sense. On the surface of it, Bernard-Docker not getting one doesn't make nearly as much. Seemed to be worth at least $900k IMHO. Not sure why the Sabres would sweat the extra $60-100k unless they plan on using that in FA &/or trading for pieces that are significantly more expensive than what they currently have.
And that's completely outside their MO.
Meanwhile, the inexplicable and the dumb are completely in their wheelhouse.
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4 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:
You missed my point. You don't think I know the history?
I'm saying no one can add Byram being gone today to the reason we're not better, unless you're always trying to paint the worst picture, which is what some Buffalo fans have been doing my entire life.
So if you're going to say we need a partner for Dahlin today because of the departure of Byram, then incorrectly say we don't need a top 6 winger or whatever you want to make up.
"For some reason there's a love affair with doom and gloom" is your overall interpretive conclusion as to the motivation behind folks speculating: that's your own bias regarding the nature of the board, which you've expressed quite often.
The question of whether the Sabres are better is in flux, so obviously some figured in what they thought likely (a trade of Byram), and others held off, and based judgment on what is true right now. I don't see that kind of variance as proof of an odd desire to "paint the worst picture," though it is true that a self-destructive madness can overcome a group when conditions turn in a certain direction.
I hardly think that is what is happening on this board. In my judgment, the current roster is not a playoff team, so the offseason is a failure if it remains more-or-less what it is now. You can make an argument that the team is marginally improved overall. I'm not certain that is correct, but it is not ridiculous. What happens in the next week or so will be much more telling, so pausing on making pronouncements until there is greater clarity is actually the most prudent course.
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18 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
I don't think DAL can take on Byram's salary. It was also reported that they'd want futures for him.
You'd have to turn Byram into futures and picks, and use that as part of the package to get Robertson.
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2 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:
This is why our fans frustrate me sometimes. For some reason there's a love affair with doom and gloom and it's real.
Why do we have to find a partner for Dahlin when we have Byram?
Do you believe it strengthens your gloom?
It's not for "some reason" as if it were unfathomable and irrational. There is a long history of ineptitude, which quite naturally produces skepticism. There is also inconsistency. Don't block the young players. Then when they hit on one who doesn't want to be here, you end up trading the unblocked. Handedness didn't matter on D, and now it does. They were all finesse, and now we have discovered the need for grit.
I like the current shift, but the GM does not inspire confidence. The change is not coming from principle, unless it is someone else behind the altered criteria, which is quite possible.
If Byram is not traded, the D is fine. I think he's probably going to be traded, but it's not as certain as it seemed a few days ago. They should bring in veteran competition for UPL, and let Levi season another year. I rather doubt that is their plan, though. They need to bring in a top 6 winger. There's cap room to do it, but most folks are rightly concerned that we won't spend, because TP has been cheap. You can conjecture various reasons, but the cheap part is undeniable, or should be.
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1 hour ago, Turbo44 said:
Mods, merge this with another thread if you wish:
This is what my offseason would look like:
-Re-sign Byram for 5 years $35million. Trading him would create a huge hole next to Dahlin, he wants to stay, and I give him PP minutes. This allows him to got to UFA at a young age (29)
-Trade with Dallas for Jason Robertson, one of the top 2 way wingers in the league at a position, LW, of desperate need. Dallas wants futures, as they're up against the cap, and we have futures. It's a lot but this is what I send; 2026 top 3 lottery protected, Östlund, Rosen, Strbak. It's a lot, but our prospect pool is deep, we avoid giving them top prospects like Quinn, Kulich and Helenius and get a top 10 NHL player who is tenacious defensively (what we desperately need) who hasn't missed a game since 2021 while averaging 37 goals and 53 assists. Put him on the top line with Norris and Tage and the 3 players will threaten 300 points next year. This move could save Adam's job. Robertson is young (25) with one year left at $7.75m. We extend him 7 years (to his still relatively young age 32 year) for $75million - Slightly under Dahlin's annual salary.
-Sign Jake Allen, 1 years $4million (slightly less than UPL's $4.75million per). At worst, he backs up UPL, at best, he outperforms UPL and gets at least equal playing time. At 34, he's getting up there but has a lifetime 2.76 GAA, .908 save percentage and 28 shutouts in 460 regular-season games while last year posting 13-16-1 with a 2.66 goals-against average, .908 save percentage and four shutouts in 31 games. This dwarfs anything and everything UPL has ever posted. With the chance to start at a nice contract (he's coming off one of 2 years at 3.85million per year), Allen jumps at our offer. I'm willing to match his 2 year at 3.85 per if he wants the security. Levi seasons another year in Rochester.
-Trade Malenstyn and Lafferty for small futures and eliminate $3.35million from the cap
-Trade Samuellson for a marginal prospect. Don't have room for him salary cap wise or team morale wise. The moment he didn't defend Tage was the moment he was no longer a Sabres in my eyes. His cap savings is significant.
-Extentions: Tuch 5 years $38million ; McLeod 3 years $10million; Timmins 2 years $2.8million (savings of $1.93million from what you would have paid Clifton and you get a better defenseman). It's the same salary as Kesselring; Levi 2 years 2.5million, Kozak 2 years $2milliion. Bernard-Docker and Ryan Johnson both 2 years $2.25million,
DEPTH CHARTS
FORWARDS
Robertson-Norris-Thompson (wow just wow - PLEASE STAY HEALTHY NORRIS)
Benson-Kulich-Tuch (Zucker for Benson and McLeod for Kulich are interchangeable here)
Zucker-McLeod-Quinn - a great 3rd line which has a little of everything
Greenway -Krebs - Doan - a very solid 4th line and a b1tch to play against - we're going to love Doan
Extra: Kozak
DEFENSE
Byram - Dahlin - Dahlin prefers the off-wing
Power-Kesselring - Power gets the steady partner he should have had the last 2 years. Kesselring is nasty and surprisingly solid analytics-wise
Timmins - Bernard-Docker - okay bottom pair that will get limited minutes - 13-15 per game
Extra: Bryson
GOALIE
UPL-Allen - Levi gets one more year in Rochester while we see how UPL plays behind a much better defensive team. Make it or break it year for UPL.
PP1
Thompson-Zucker-Robertson-Dahlin-Norris
PP2
Kulich-Quinn-Tuch-Power-Byram
PK1
McLeod-Greenway-Kesselring-Power
PK2
Norris-Tuch-Dahlin-Timmins
CAP CALCULATION
$95.5MILLION CAP CEILING
BASICALLY SPENDING TO THE CAP. $1.6M under the cap and this, I believe, is a much improved, playoff team. Going forward, we'd have some new extensions hit (Tuch, Robertson, etc.) but with the projected Cap at $104,000,000 we'd be fine. Is Pegula willing to spend, Is KA capable of this? This is the biggest offseason in a long time and I'd argue that if the team performs (and I'm confident this roster would), the extra spend be dwarfed by the extra revenues generated from playoffs and higher ticker sales. This is the best fans in the world - give them a product and they will come and spend!!!
Thoughts?
I would agree with the view that you probably need to add to get Robertson, but this is a solid plan.
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22 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:
Until we see otherwise, I think the safe money is that the Sabres will spend to an internal cap that comes in under $90 million. I could be wrong and this is the year they go big.
It sounds like the Canucks are keeping Pettersson (unless there is news I’ve missed), but if he is available the Sabres could take a run. If the Sabres moved Byram and Norris in a Pettersson trade, they would still have room to add Robertson for futures. A top line of Pettersson centring Robertson and Thompson, would certainly change how the Sabres are viewed.
I really can't imagine KA pulling off those kind of deals, especially in a compressed timeframe.
1 minute ago, Turbo44 said:I'd be worried about his knee. He was one of the fastest players in the league 2 years ago and correspondingly was 100+ year player. Since the injury, hi tope end recorded speed has been pedestrian as has his scoring. Plus his attitude was questioned several times by teammates. Feels like a Taylor Hall signing and at a cap hit of $11.6m for 5 more years, i pass.
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I agree. I'd love to find a way to get Robertson, though.
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28 minutes ago, Big Guava said:
But who is making a 20 player trade? That's not even realistic 🤣
AI can't really think. It's autocorrect on hyperdrive.
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8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Docker needs to play. He is a solid third pair D.
Not really a problem, because Muel will spend 60% of the season on IR.
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2 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:
TBH, I’m trading Byram, Norris, and Mrtka to get a 1C.
I don't really want to take a chance on Pettersson, if that's who you're contemplating at that price.
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3 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:
AI Response:
Haha, fair point on Linux — but whether it’s Windows or Linux, it’s the roster building that matters. I’ll use a typewriter if it gets the Sabres a Cup! Let’s talk hockey: what would you add or change in the trade plan?You should ask if it isn't neglecting an initial premise. Perhaps TPegs needs to sell the team.
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The battle of the bots.
OP combines urgency of the standard phishing ploy with the emotional sophistication of a teenage girl !!!!!!!!!
Saw a conversation on Substack between a writer and ChatGPT. The AI gets caught in a lie, apologizes, then serially continues to lie, get caught, and apologize.
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19 minutes ago, oddoublee said:
I'm not so sure. I don't believe they had any intention to trade bryam for picks - this simply solidifies for other GMS to stop wasting time offering them...and offer up a, at minimum, top 9 forward that can slide up and down. I believe he gets traded before FA starts
Maybe. Perhaps the post was performative. You've got to admit "while Scrabble tiles marinates in juniors" is pretty damn good. (And what is it about Byram that his name just begs to be misspelled?)
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5 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:
The worst part of this deal is I actually do like the players we got back but still feel shafted. This plus a late 1st or a couple 2nds and I feel much less livid.
Swap firsts, okay. But there's no backbone or creativity.
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2 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:
It was never going to be the case that the Sabres were going to trade Peterka and get the better player in the deal. Teams interested in Peterka were going to be teams trying to get better who were offering pieces that, to them, were expendable and redundant. I'm not saying Kesserling and Doan are bad players, but they aren't what we need to take the step towards being a playoff team this year. Kesserling, who I assume is seen as the long sought after partner for Owen Power, is 25 years old and has played 156 NHL regular season games and no playoff games. Bernard-Docker is the only d-man on our current NHL roster, who has played fewer NHL games.
I expect a similar trade with Byram in the next 48 hours. And when that is done, the Sabres will, in the blink of an eye, have gone from being a team that looked like it might be up against the cap after signing their RFAs, to being a team that can easily come in around $88 million, give or take a million.
Yacht insurance is expensive.
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Is Taylor Swift dating an Edmonton Oiler now?
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1 hour ago, pi2000 said:
If I'm GM I tell JJ he's not being moved, end of story. You don't like it? Too bad.
KA as GM is defined by do you want to be here. I don't think he's capable of playing that card.
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7 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:
It seems he wasn’t allowed. That was the point of Pegula flying into Montreal to give his “The answer is in the room” speech. That was the “you guys figure it out I’m not signing off on any deal right now” speech.
Of course, Adams should not be in charge, but the arrogance and obtuseness begins at the top. It's difficult to sustain hope when that is an obvious brake on future success. If TP is unable to learn a modicum of humility after 14 years, no amount of rational calculation regarding talent and roster construction is going to mean much. One is reduced to random luck, miracle, or change in ownership as what could conceivably pull the franchise out of its lamentable ways.
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24 minutes ago, oddoublee said:
If Dallas is looking to move Robertson, they most likely will not want peterka in return. Their motive would be cap based, and peterka counters that.
I could see 9, kulich and a B level prospect/2nd rounder getting it done
Well, if that's the price, you do it.
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2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:
Again ill never judge the difference based on playoff games. Players go a full 100% in the playoffs versus 75% to 85% in the regular season most nights
I suppose the sense of it is that if we are too young/emotionally fragile to handle the pressure of the race to get into the playoffs, we're unlikely to step up in the post-season. No doubt, there could be some surprises, but in general, I surmise we have been too young to expect the team to raise its level of compete sufficiently to not be embarrassed.
After such a prolonged wait, you'd like to be able to accomplish something once the team crosses the mythical border into playoff land. Anyway, the hope that players that are edgy, uncomfortable to play against, etc. will be part of the profile for who is drafted and brought in is a reflection of that judgment.
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22 minutes ago, Taro T said:
?????
He's angry with Staal's behavior on a social issue several years ago -- Staal refused to wear a rainbow jersey while a member of the Panthers. I don't believe that has anything to do with his hockey acumen, which I do not know one way or the other.
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5 minutes ago, Brawndo said:
Adams has been in the Bills Draft Room the first night of the draft the past few years
He's going to draft D in the first for sure then, or trade out of the round.
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The offseason so far - Are the Sabres better?
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The level of ineptitude is mind-numbing.