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  6. "Increasingly Substantiated BS" rumor thread- 2014 Edition

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    Posted · Edited by obstructedorangeseats

    https://twitter.com/...838612049862656

     

    lebrun_twitter_49669_bigger.jpgPierre LeBrunVerified account ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

    Interesting how most of the rentals have yet to be dealt. Last few years a number of them went earlier...The buyers want prices to come down

     

    Earlier this AM, LeBrun seemed surprised that the rentals haven't moved off the board yet, and said that teams are waiting for the prices to come down. Seems counterintuitive though, no?

  7. Kassian to Vancouver for Hodgson

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    Resurrection!

     

    I'm bringing this thread back up because I made the mistake of reading the comments under the TSN article where Kassian scored the shootout winner. All the Nucks fans are saying how Gillis basically got the better deal and Kassian has size and skills that Hodgson lacks. So why do we care? Well I thought it might be interesting to keep an eye on both players during this shortened season to see if a winner in this deal does start to emerge. I think it is still to early to tell, however (I watched the Vancouver highlights) based off of the first 2 games only I see more from Hodgson style of play than I do from Kassian. Other current thoughts on this trade as we get under way here?

    I think both teams can be winners with this trade. We desperately needed a young center with #1 potential. They needed a power forward with skills and toughness. If things continue on the trajectory of the first couple of games, I'd be happy with the trade.

  9. Kassian to Vancouver for Hodgson

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    I realize a team is generally a reflection of the HC, but isn't there a big difference between these two statements?

     

    Not necessarily. Vancouver fans, and the NHL media in general, has been labeling Kassian as the Lucic-killer, the piece that was missing from the Canucks' run to the Stanley Cup when they got pushed around by Boston. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch then to wonder why Buffalo, an infamously soft team, would give up that kind of player when it seems like that would be the kind of player they need ('concept' or otherwise).

  10. Kassian to Vancouver for Hodgson

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    you think so? i don't think ruff hears those claims, or, if he does, that he heeds them one bit.

     

    i think he was just trying to downplay the quality of the player that the team sent to vancouver and amplify the notion that the sabres got the better of the deal.

     

    Maybe he doesn't heed them, but I highly doubt he hasn't been paying attention to the fact that the media has, post-Lucic/Miller, labeled his team as the softest in the NHL. Let alone the talk on hockey message boards. :D

  11. Kassian to Vancouver for Hodgson

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    i fully understand fans and the media conducting a post mortem of kassian, but i see no point, and a lot of downside, to the coach of the former player engaging in this sort of stuff. especially the bit about the "physical game." why give the guy an additional reason to take a run at someone when the teams play in a few days, or at any point in the future?

     

    imo, ruff should've stuck to bland platitudes about how they like kassian a lot, he's a young guy with a lot of potential and promise, and we like what we got in cody.

     

    I think Ruff putting the lack-of-toughness onus on Kassian is an attempt to try and allay the calls (fair or not) that he hates said toughness.

  12. Kassian to Vancouver for Hodgson

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    I've been reading from a few posters how fans are trashing Kassian. I've yet to see one post that does. If offering an honest critique of his play to date, which includes the good with the bad, is tanamount to trashing him, I don't know what to say. I think a lot of the sensitivity is rooted in the enormous amount of optimism we've invested in him since he was selected in the draft. It's easier for some to blame Lindy Ruff and how he's "ruined" him than come to grips with the fact that he's not yet the player we all imagined.

     

    Maybe I'm more sensitive to what I'm seeing on Twitter then. But this always happens (in any sport) where prospect hugging is part of being an educated fan. Especially in the internet age where more and more is known about these players. Heck, I'd suspect that even fans who casually follow the team are at least peripherally aware of their team's #1 or #2 prospect.

  13. Kassian to Vancouver for Hodgson

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    Cody for Zack sounds like a trade on Saved by the Bell, and not a trade of NHL prospects.

     

     

     

    I agree. The Buffalo fan base, like many, is extremely reactionary. I think part of it is that they feel somewhat betrayed that he's gone, when theyve built him up in their minds.

     

    The old "Hey I dont need you, you suck anyway" that you say to an old gf.

     

    So in trading Gaustad and a 4th for a 1st, Darcy got a Kelly for a Screech and random nerd?

  14. Kassian to Vancouver for Hodgson

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    Posted · Edited by Double-J

    Kassian has so many attributes associated with him that he has never shown at the professional level.

    This is worse than the backup QB syndrome.

     

    To be fair though, I'm getting a feeling that the Sabres community has turned a little Boston-ish on Kassian here. That fanbase and even officials in the organization (more than most, it seems) have a tendency to tear down some outgoing players, managers, etc. Look no further than Terry Francona and Johnny Damon.

     

    I know Kassian's NHL stint(s) were somewhat underwhelming, but I've been somewhat shocked to see how quickly the Buffalo fanbase has turned on Kassian. Maybe it's because of the high expectations on Vancouver's end, but you'd think he was absolute trash the way some people are depicting him.

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