JohnRobertEichel
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First of all, let's make this clear: Murray is definitely responsible for the contracts of all 4 players I called out. He gave Ennis his contract extension, and the other 3 were brought to the Sabres on Murray's watch. MAYBE I will cut Murray some slack for Moulson (who has provided some production this season, compared to last) and Ennis (2 straight horrible seasons is a long time, but who am I to judge how long he needs to recover from the Ovechkin-induced concussion?), but the contracts for Gorges and Bogosian are as inexcusable as their on-ice performances.
Next, to say we're not in cap trouble is myopic. I'm looking at next summer as much as this one. Kane, Reinhart, and Eichel all need to be kept, and Murray will need to re-sign Kane this summer if he plans on keeping him. But we also need to add 3 quality defenseman and another top 6 winger to this roster...and 1-2 of these 4 needs will probably have to be young vets via free agency/trade who will be beyond their entry-level contracts.
Finally, if you don't think the current on-ice product has any connection with the general manager's allocation of the team's financial resources, then I don't what else to tell you. Hopefully you can reason that shifting cap money to some areas of the roster prevents a GM from addressing other areas of the roster. The Sabres were at the cap ceiling this season, and it limited what Murray could do to address the horrific defense.
Yes, my panties are in a knot. Deal with it.
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These 4 players will cost the Sabres about $18 million next season. The 2017-18 salary cap is expected to be about $76 million. So basically, our brilliant GM has managed to allocate 25% of the team's cap space on 4 terrible excuses for hockey professionals who make this team worse every time they step onto the ice.
This, folks, is why we can't have nice things. By nice things, I mean a team that makes the playoffs and entertains us. Remember this thread when they try to explain why we couldn't keep all three of Eichel, Reinhart, and Kane.
As far as I'm concerned, it's time to give Murray the same level of scrutiny that we've been giving Bylsma for months.
What a disgraceful franchise. Sick of this .
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If my understanding of the draft lottery rules is correct, we can only pick 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, or 9 this year....so no 4 or 5....someone correct me if I'm wrong...
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So how do you explain the other games that they won that put them in a position to actaully control their own destiny to make the playoffs this year with 2 games remaining? They didn't make it in because Crosby missed a shot, they made it in because they have a good well coached team that is finally being built by a quality front office and coaching staff instead of a front office who wants to get lucky and win a lottery. But its all good, Murray gives 'Zero F***s', and will continue to rebuild the mess he made here while the Leafs just did what he couldn't do in a fraction of the time. If only the Sabres didn't have injuries...........
I'm beyond tired of this excuse. We better not hear it from the mouths of Dan Abysmal or the Dwight Schrute doppelganger on Monday afternoon. This team played just as bad when everyone was healthy as they did at the beginning of the year.
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The Bandits are now currently the worst team in the league.
Way to go, Terry and Kim. You are the proud owners of THREE underachieving, uninspired, unwatchable sports franchises.
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Interested to see everyone's take on who we should keep, and how we should lose the one we don't keep; expansion, trade, FA? Which player is better anyhow?
I'd like to keep Girgs and trade Larsson
I prefer Girgensons to Larsson, but I'd like to keep both for a while longer if possible. I'm also not opposed to trading either one for the help on defense that is sorely needed. I think both still have upside that a different head coach could tap into, and I definitely don't want to lose either for free in the expansion draft or through free agency.
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I really like the idea of drafting OJ Howard, and not just because of his KILLER name. I think he's the only blue-chip player in the draft this year who plays offense. We can run 2 TE sets with him and Clay. He can take a lot of heat off double-teaming Watkins. He's a big target for Taylor over the middle and in the red zone. His blocking skills only help our run game, especially when on the weaker right side. After 57 years, this franchise still has never had a dominant player at the TE position. OJ would be that player.
Here's my top 10 list for the draft:
1. Garrett
2. Allen
3. Adams
4. Hooker
5. Foster
6. Thomas
7. Howard
---------division between elite and really good---------------
8. Davis
9. Lattimore
10. Williams
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We tanked an entire year and ate a ###### sandwich for 82 games for Sam Reinhart. He's on his ELC and will be a RFA. He's not a buffoon off the ice. He's 3rd on the team in points this year. He was 3rd on the team in points last year (his rookie year).
If you call Myers for Bogosian and Kasdorf even up, we traded a house -Stafford, Armia, Lemieux, and 25th overall pick (Jack Roslovic), three former first rounders and an actual first rounder- for Evander Kane. What did that buy you? Bar time shenanigans. Oh, and a top line winger who's on pace for 32 goals on an 82 game season, hypothetically good enough to finish in the league's top 20 in scoring. He led the team in goals per game last season too, on pace for 25 goals in 82 games. And these goals don't come easy. Despite the fact we have the #1 powerplay, 24 of 27 of Kane's goals this season have come at even strength. The next highest even strength scorer on the team is Eichel with 14 goals. If you take away Kane's 27 goals, the Sabres drop to 29th in the league in goals for. If you take away Kane's 24 even strength goals, the Sabres drop to dead last in even strength goals for, and it's not even close. By the way, those four other guys: Stafford has scored 8 goals this season; Armia 10; Lemieux is dicking around in Manitoba with 19 points in 61 AHL games; and the jury's still out on Roslovic, who's shown some young promise. People think we need another Danny Briere trade in order to catapult the team. This was that trade.
Don't trade either.
But asset management is asset management. If Kane doesn't resign this offseason, he gets moved.
You clearly know more than just physics. Great post. Reinhart and Kane are both critical pieces to this new Eichel-led Sabres dynasty.
Regarding Reinhart: put him at center and watch him flourish. Eichel - Reinhart - O'Reilly - Asplund. Could be best center group in the league in a few years.
Regarding Kane: we can afford him. Remember that Gorges will be off the books in 2018. Hopefully Vegas picks up Ennis. Moulson's final year of his contract goes down in cost. Bogosian...well... it...we can still afford Kane.
Want to talk trades? How about trading Bylsma? That clown is ruining this franchise. He needs to go.
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Bumping this to the top. Anyone with any news whatsoever please post...rumors are great too...
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Kuli has had a ###### season, back messed with him a good part of it and who knows how long the concussionactually bothered him. He has looked much better lately... but with Austin and Falk showing up and Ghule coming, suddenly the D is looking big, nasty and mobile. Im ok with Risto, McCabe, Falk, Austin, Bogo and Ghule next year, though given all the injuries d guys endure, id like to see Kuli back.
Austin and Falk are decent injury call-up options, but they have no business being regular NHL top-6 guys.
I'd be perfectly happy signing Kulikov to a 1-2 year "prove-it" contract. The freak injury he sustained this year is a perfectly valid excuse for his poor performance.
Murray still needs to swing a trade for a top-4 D-man. I don't see anyone worth pursuing in free agency.
Risto, McCabe, and Guhle are fine by me. Bogo sucks, but with that contract, what can you do about it?
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Yeah, nobody is likely to hit 100. The only way it happens is if they re-enforce the rules the way they did post lock out in 2005.
Only 10 players in the league are currently averaging 1.00+ points per game (one of them being Jack Eichel), and you need to be averaging 1.20+ to hit 100. The only way I see the Sabres accomplishing this during the Eichel Era would be if Reinhart seriously steps up his game. Eichel with 40 goals and 60 assists, Reinhart with 30 goals and 70 assists, a left winger like Kane popping in 35+ goals....eh, not likely....
Regarding the topic of era naming, I prefer to define an "era" as a period marked by a rise and then a fall. And looking at the franchise's history, I see roughly 6 of them divided between these years: 1970, 1979, 1987, 1995, 2003, 2014.
The first was the Punch Imlach Era defined mostly by the French Connection. The second was the Scotty Bowman Era defined mostly by an aging roster that could just never hit elite level. The third was Gerry Meehan's rebuild that was highlighted with an offensive juggernaut line of future Hall of Famers, but it wasn't enough to get beyond the Montreals and Bostons. The fourth was characterized by Hasek and then a bunch of hard working types to fill out the rest of the roster, but was ultimately crippled by a corrupt and cheap owner who didn't care about winning a Stanley Cup. The fifth was the post-bankruptcy/post-lockout group that had the same GM, the same head coach, a similarly cheap owner, and a similar philosophy as the previous era of building around a great goaltender...but this time with smaller, faster, and ultimately mentally soft skill players.
This brings me to the sixth era which I'd say began with the "tank" for Eichel. The blueprint is bigger, tougher, younger, and elite at the center position. In my opinion, this era is merely a top-2 defenseman, a change in coaching philosophy, and a couple more years of experience away from being the best chance our beloved franchise has ever had at winning a Stanley Cup.
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Thanks for the insight. That's crazy that even they stink now. He acquired them the same time as the Sabres though and they made the finals last year so I guess it wasn't an instant flop. Were they some type of juggernaut in 2011 that simply took 5 years to fall apart? I was half joking at first but maybe he really is cursed.
The last Bandit juggernaut was in 2008 when they last won the championship. At that point, the team was mostly just a bunch of old vets while the rest of the league was beginning to move toward an up-tempo transition game that relied more on youth and speed. I think the current GM/HC at the time (Darris Kilgour) was great at what he did, but he was also a bit stubborn and behind the times. He doubled down by trading high draft picks for older established vets. This strategy seemed to no longer work in the league, and it led to his eventual firing by 2013.
My own personal assessment of the current GM (Steve Dietrich) and HC (Troy Cordingly) are that they are very good at what they do and were forced to rebuild a Bandits franchise without the usual assets that a rebuilding franchise has (Kilgour famously traded away draft picks to the point that the team didn't have a first round pick for 4 straight years - 2013 through 2016). The Bandits managed to reach the finals last year for the first time since 2008, and they did so with a nice mix of young guys, players in their prime, and older vets. They played admirably against a team that just seemed to be flat out better than the rest of the league.
I'm not entirely sure what's wrong with this year's team. Injuries have been a minor problem, but not nearly to the extent to justify getting absolutely blown out like they have been all year. Maybe the roster could use more pure shutdown defenders. There's still slightly over half a season left to get things turned around, and their second best forward (Ryan Benesch) should be coming back soon from IR.
So if I want to be fair, it's hard for me to blame Terry on any of the Bandits' current problems. If he is cursed, it could be the cosmic karma for getting rich off of destroying the Pennsylvania lands with his fracking ventures.
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GMTM said he was also trying to set the table for buying young players but that didn't happen.
Hard to say whether he tried hard enough without seeing the prices.
I also think big picture Murray sees better moves available at the draft/pre expansion.
We weren't going to get the D Man we want from the Anaheims, Minnesotas or Islanders of the league today.
I don't see how Murray is ever going to get that top-2 d-man that we need at this point. Maybe by trading one or more of our future first round picks? I really don't want to trade Kane, but maybe that's the necessary sacrifice for a top d-man.
It's a shame Murray burned through all of our post-Regier trade assets without adding any defensemen beyond Risto, McCabe, and Guhle. And so much salary cap dead wood on next season's roster: Ennis and Gorges at about $4 million, Moulson at $5, Bogosian at $5.5...unbelievable.
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I wish I was feeling more confident with regards to all this. I'm slightly nervous for what comes next. It's a big offseason for Murray.
And, unfortunately, from what he says, he seems to be on the same page as Bylsma. *shudder*
Yeah, I get the same sense that Bylsma is safe for a while longer. At least through the beginning of next season. Which is fine by me at this point. It gives me some more time to focus on my life this year rather than waste it on this sinking ship of a franchise. I've got better things to do than continue watching an overrated coach cripple the development of his talented young forwards.
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For some reason a thread got closed about the trade deadline and I had a post already typed up that I was curious about so I have to create a thread rather than google the answer for myself (screw that, I already typed this up).
To quote Rob Ray: No, you're right.
I agree with you though. He's not nefarious or anything but he really seems to have adopted the losing culture of Buffalo sports rather than reversing it so far. Sabres, Bills, and Amerks all floundering. Are the Bandits any good or did they fall off the performance cliff as well? I've never followed Lacrosse but I remember reading that they won multiple titles back when they had John Tavares' uncle or whomever. I don't know if the Bandits are better or worse since Pegula has owned them though.
Yes, the Bandits have absolutely fallen off the performance cliff this season in a way that even surpasses the Bills and Sabres (I don't follow the Amerks). The Bandits had a great season last year and made it to the finals, and pretty much the same team from last year returned intact. So on paper, they look strong.
And yet most of their 8 games played this season have followed the same pattern: show up listless and get utterly blown out for most of the game, then come back to some extent to make it look respectable, but then lose. They actually played their first complete game last weekend and followed up with a really solid trade for a lefty forward (Pat Saunders), so it's hard to say whether last weekend was an aberration or whether the first 7 games were the aberration.
In summary: yes, Terry Pegula is a Terry-bly incompetent owner and everything he touches turns to sh!t. And I doubt he's even aware that he owns the Bandits, which could ultimately work in their favor...
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I'm going to go with the 1G/3D/7F format:
1. Lehner
2. Ristolainen
3. McCabe
4. Gorges
5. R. O'Reilly
6. Okposo
7. Kane
8. Larsson
9. Carrier
10. Girgensons
11. Ennis
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He and Kane are great middle sixers that will be hard to retain due to their price tags.
I see Kane as a top line LW. Or rather, I should say that I see Kane's ceiling as that of a top line LW.
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I don't see how Ottawa and Toronto are locks. There are 3 playoff spots in play right now, not one.
They're not locks. But I prefaced my statement with "in my opinion" because I think Ottawa and Toronto are playoff-caliber teams, and I don't think we can count on them collapsing to the point that we can realistically leapfrog them.
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Why are we trying to determine if .500 gets you into the playoffs?
Here's what really matters:
After 3 seasons of the new playoff format, we know that 93 points is the bare minimum to make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference. So the Sabres likely need to accumulate at least 44 points in 35 games, which is roughly 1.25 ppg, just to enter the playoff conversation. A pace of winning 2 out of every 3 games from here on out should suffice.
In my opinion, the top 7 teams look to be already settled: Caps, Penguins, Blue Jackets, Rangers, Canadiens, Senators, and Maple Leafs. So the Sabres will be in a dogfight with 8 other teams for that final spot. The hottest of the 9 during the home stretch will make it in.
For what it's worth, I added up the overtime losses in the Eastern Conference from the past 3 seasons. In the first season, there were 165 OTL with 93 points as the minimum for playoff entry. In the second season, there were 175 OTL with 98 points as the minimum. Last season, there were 152 OTL with 93 points as the minimum. This year, there have been 107 OTL with about 58.2% of all Eastern Conference games already played....putting the entire conference on pace for about 184 OTL after a full season....so it's reasonable to assume that the Sabres will need a few more points beyond 93 to ensure a playoff spot.
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RJ makes following the Sabres so much more fun. Part of my impatience with this rebuilding process is that I fear RJ will retire before we finally become very competitive. I want to hear this great man completely lose his when Eichel scores the Stanley Cup-clinching goal.
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So the Sabres are gonna play hockey in Tennessee I'm told. Tennessee?!
Will Kulikov show up?
Does Lehner get the nod?
Does D-lo play D?
Can BUF get the pill past Rinne?
Does Bylsmama stand stoically behind the bench quietly pursing his lips while a fire rages out of control right in front of him?
Doez the team make trip to Dollywood?
:lol:
I'm going to go with "yes" on that one. They've already won two games in a row. That's way too much condensed winning for DB's boys. The Sabres are overdue for a stinker on the road.
If anyone knows the latest on Kulikov, Gorges, and McCabe, please post it here!
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Sabres are now 5 games behind .500. Toronto, OTOH, with 21 wins and 42 games played, is a legitimate .500 team. And they started rebuilding after us! We LOL'd and gloated a bit that Babcock wouldn't be accustomed to the years of pain and suffering and losing losing losing that would be needed to build up the team. Apparently he didn't need to be accustomed to it - that team's turnaround is clearly faster and better than ours.
And now the season series is 2-0 in Toronto's favor. IF they win one more, they win the season series.
Again, where is this fast turnaround Murray promised in the first year of his rebuild? We're three years in, and playing at an 80-82 pt pace. Again.
No, the Sabres are 10 games below .500.....they are 17-18-9. Fourth-worst team in a 30-team league. The third-worst team is a point behind with 2 games in hand, and they just fired their coach. The worst two teams are so far behind that tanking doesn't seem like much of a viable strategy either.
If you want to set the rebuild clock to three years, fine. But I set it back to year one of the playoff drought when we began selling assets. This will be the 6th straight season without the playoffs. Terry Pegula has been here for all 6 of them.
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There were some rough little patches around 1986, 2001, and 2008...but yeah, this certainly feels like the worst it's been because the Bills are in the midst of a record-breaking 17-year playoff drought and the Sabres are in the midst of a franchise-worst 6-year playoff drought. Moreover, there seems to be no end in sight because ownership is proving to be completely incompetent. Here's a hint, Terrence: make sure your coach and general manager are on the same ###### page. Dan Abysmal's system doesn't mesh at all with the kind of forward talent that Murray has brought in. And Rex Ryan's antiquated 3-4 defense and ground-and-pound philosophy wasn't a good fit for an elite 2014 4-3 defense with an elite WR that Whaley traded everything for....any dumbass casual WNY sports fan could foresee the incongruity. Hey, any pro lacrosse fans here? Don't forget the Bandits! Not to be outdone in the Pegulian manner of sports underachieving, they just lost their star player with an Eichel-like injury and have looked lifeless at home twice to start the year 0-2.
Mother of ######. As the "One Buffalo" factory of sadness continues to churn out ###### sandwiches for us all to eat, I'm starting to think maybe I am better off taking a break from all this for a while.
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Can we just let Lehner chew him up and spit him out?
I realize that Lehner has always been a bit of a hothead, but it's always been directed toward the other team until now. In my opinion, Lehner's behavior last night following the benching is indicative of a head coach with a very tenuous command of the team. Rumors of Eichel being unhappy with the coach don't surprise me. Dan Abysmal should be fired no later than the end of this lost season.
Who are the passengers?
in The Aud Club
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Same. Even our GM specifically called out Moulson last year.