Johnny Utah
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So many of the great minds on here totally miss what Bloom bring to the prospect pool. I have zero issue trading a forward for a decent defenseman but this is not the forward and not the defenseman. We have at least 5 or 6 carbon copy European players signed and/or drafted.....all small, fast, shifty, and play identical games. Bloom was one of the few players with size that could skate, play a defensive sound/gritty game and kill penalties....he even dropped the gloves when required. He was a unicorn when compared to the other prospects. Doesn't mean he would make it or move anywhere past the AHL but why not keep a prospect that offers different skills than the others?
Every single one of the prospects I described can play top 6 but there is no room for them all. Can they play third line checking or 4th line energy? Doubtful. I think this was a huge blunder that probably wont bite us in the ass but a blunder all the same.
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On 2/20/2023 at 12:36 AM, GASabresIUFAN said:
Sad to say, but there isn't really enough roster spots for all our current legit forward prospects
1st Rd prospects - Savoie, Kulich, Östlund and Rosen
2nd Rd prospects - Kisakov, Poltapov
3rd & 4th rd legit prospects - Bloom, Nadeau, Neuchev
Others - Cederqvist, Kozak, Rousek, Marjala, Huglen, Weissbach, and Richard.
There are also others than may emerge. That's alot of depth and quality. At some point some of them will be moved for players, more picks or prospects.
With Sabres being so close to playoffs (ahead of schedule) which prospects above to you dangle to get those last few pieces to get you in ??
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Love to see them sign Johnson as there really are no meaningful D prospects even close to ready and the cupboard is relatively bare. Hopefully, KA takes a good hard look at the graduating NCAA crew and targets so Dmen and Fs with size. Too many smallish and similar style Fs in the funnel for my liking. We need to diversify and grab some size and toughness as it doesn't exist. No disrespect to the Euros but need to also fill the funnel with some of these US based college kids
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Go to HockeyFights.com and look either of them up.....both are not intimidated at all and more than comfortable to drop gloves when required.
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I like Murray because he brings some size and edge. When I look at the potential on Rochester next year I like him and the additions of Nadeau (6'2 and 200) and Bloom (6'2 and 185). They seem to be the only two forward prospects with any size. Everyone else including most of the rookies on Rochester this year are 5"10ish and 170......need a few bigger bodies to go with some D prospects in the summer
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What the scoop on Brett Murray ? Under contract ? Trade bait ? Back next year ?
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Just looking at the pipeline to see who might be leaving and what the replacement situation look like.
I'm not sure what some of the contracts look like so I just went to CapFriendly to see the Sabres and NHL contracts.
Current Amerks (RFAs and UFAs)
- Murray - 24yrs RFA
- Rousek - 24yrs RFA
- Weissbach - 24yrs RFA
- Bjork - 26yrs RFA
- Pekar - 22yrs RFA
- Malone - 27yrs UFA
- Pilut - 27yrs UFA
- Priskie - 26yrs UFA
- Davies - 26yrs RFA
- Cecconi - 25yrs RFA
Lots of decisions to make in this group but not sure I see any obvious graduations to Sabres. Lots of value players that may or may not be back. Age will play a role as well within Adams plans
Possible Amerks Additions
- Levi - G (unsigned)
- Portillo - G (unsigned)
- Johnson - D (unsigned)
- Komarov - D (unsigned)
- Novikov - D (unsigned)
- Östlund - F (signed)
- Bloom - F (signed)
- Nadeau - F (signed)
- Marjala - F (unsigned)
- Karlsson - F (unsigned)
- Konecny - F (unsigned)
- Neuchev - F (unsigned)
- Ratkovic - F (unsigned)
- Sjodin - F (unsigned)
- Lofberg - F (unsigned)
Think they will sign Levi this year and he will be our main goalie going forward with UPL sticking with Sabres. Portillo and Johnson walk or are traded so not part of the long term picture. Seems the ones that make sense are the signed players in Östlund, Bloom and Nadeau.
Before you jump all over me....Savoie, Lindgren and Richard (?) are too young so they have not been considered and Poltopov is signed in Russia for the next few years.
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On 1/9/2023 at 1:08 PM, French Collection said:
Savoie has 41 points after 30 games this season. He has heated up and is near last year’s pace.
If he continues to track upwards and scores better than last year plus his team going deep into the playoffs he will get plenty of development at that level. He also had off season shoulder rehab, so that may have contributed to a slower start.
Can he play for the Amerks in their playoffs?
With a good summer he may compete for a spot at camp. Getting a 9 game look would help him and the team figure out where he is at in the development curve. I don’t know if there is any benefit to what the Kraken did with Shane Wright (play 8 games, scratched 20ish games, 5 game AHL conditioning stint, released to WJs and sent back to Junior hockey.)
Dont forget that Savoie plays on a very stacked team in Winnipeg. They are loaded and ranked #1 in Canada. I think they will go deep so not much time to spend in Rochester. Players like Bloom, Nadeau, Lindgren and Komarov will probably exit their season much quicker and have a chance to jump into the playoffs in Rochester if required and/or good enough.
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Was the CZE Goalie not at our Prospect Camp ?? Meaning we could have signed him for nothing ?? Missed opportunity
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Bloom is having a sneaky good season and has ramped things up dramatically since he was shipped up to North Bay. He's averaging over 1.5pts per game with 23 points in 15 games. More impressively he has 12 goals in the 15 games since his arrival and is on a 10 game point streak and North Bay is playing .700 hockey. Tied for 9th in overall scoring in the OHL and on pace for 40+ goal season. Looking forward to seeing this dude in Rochester next year.
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On 12/2/2022 at 10:20 PM, Brawndo said:
Bloom with the Hat Trick tonight
Just saw that....Hat trick in a 4-2 win over division rival Kingston.....so far has 6 goals in his 9 games playing for North Bay and 13 points in total....seems to be fitting in fine so far. No one really watches North Bay as they are not one of the sexier locations here in the OHL but they seem to have something good happening there.
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Hat-trick the other night in a 4-2 win over Kingston and 13 points in 9 games......looks like he is fitting in fine so far
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https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/bloom-a-little/id1526969424?i=1000587212309
Solid podcast interview of Bloom just after being traded to North Bay
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The Frontline: Bloom a Little on Apple Podcasts
Solid podcast......interviewed just after trade
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/bloom-a-little/id1526969424?i=1000587212309
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Maybe I watched a different game.....was not impressed with Rosen or Kisakov. Rosen was the better of the two but both of these guys are perimeter players. Moving them to Rochester and having them play on the smaller surface against men is a mistake in my books. You are inviting injury as both are under 160 would be my guess.
On the other hand, Savoie and Kozak looked solid. They are also smallish but their attitudes are different and play like a dog on a bone. I think of all th enew blood they stood out the most.
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Nadeau won’t be playing. Shoulder surgery
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Bloom and Nadeau are both 6’2 and only 19. One can skate like the wind and the other has world-class hands. If they aren’t top 15 then Sabres are going to be amazing.
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Still not on the Poltopov or Kisakov trains. One kid I was very pleasantly surprised by was Lindgren. Really liked his vision, skating and confidence with the puck. I think he is one to watch
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I like the above post but truly think next guy to pop is Peterka. Absolutely love his game.....more than Quinn and Krebs today (who are both very very solid)
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I’m going to make a bold prediction that won’t be very popular…..Poltopov will never play for Sabres…..KHL player
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So who looked good? Average? Bad?
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Not sure we really need any free agent or college invites......plenty of talent there to run a great camp. Having said that we may see that at the main camp in September to restock the Amerks
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I think lots of you guys are getting well ahead of yourselves with the bright new shiney objects known as the Draft Class of 2022.
Top 3 picks are very basic size guys with only Savoie (who I love) having above average NHL speed. Remember lots of stuff gets taken away as you no longer have the time and space at the next level. Watched some games in Rochester this year and I'd be very surprised if most Euros on that list could survive.
It will be very interesting at Development Camp as I personally think the Canadians and Americans are well ahead of the Euros. I'd love to be wrong and see that they are same level or even ahead but I don't expect to see this at all. Perimeter players are a dime a dozen so lets see who steps up their game.
Also, if you are truely going to look at a prospect list do we really need to include Power, Samuelsson, Krebs, Quinn and even Peterka ? In my mind, these guys are all Sabres next year.
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I think the 88 invited is for the Juniors and U18s combined.
Sabres trade for Defenseman Riley Stillman in exchange for Josh Bloom
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Savoie and Kulich are top 6 forwards. Simple. Rosen and Östlund have similar potential but I'd say are a step behind. Kisakov is another with similar potential but he is another step behind.
Right there you have 5 similar players that we be battling out for top 6 spots. Lets not forget Thompson, Tuch, Skinner, Krebs, Quinn and Peterka who are already there.
You're missing my point altogether. I have zero issue trading the majority of these forwards for defensive help. My question is why take the one that is 6'2 , 185 and is super quick that can play on the bottom two lines when you have arguably 5 players all 5'10 and 170 pounds vying for maybe one or two spots.
If you dont see the difference in their games and the positives of keeping different style in the pipeline then you really dont get hockey.