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Dave Dryden

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  1. I argued for months that fundamental problem with the Sabres was the roster, both in construction and cost.  81 mill (in actual $ spent) for the 5th worst team in the NHL is unacceptable.  Obviously TP agreed.  GMTM was given a clean slate.  A team with tons of assets, no spending limits and no cap concerns.  He was allowed to hire anyone he wanted, including Uncle Terry.  In fact he was given so much rope he hung himself with it.  

     

    TP asked himself if the guy who screwed it up had the ability to fix it.  He came to the conclusion that he wasn't comfortable with TM fixing the mess he made and therefore he was sent packing.  TP understood that a new GM would want to pick his own coach and therefore DD was also gone.

     

    After thinking about this for much of the day, I think TP made the right decision.  I questioned TM's ability to get rid of the bad contracts he acquired.  I questioned his ability to execute his plan, and evaluate NHL players, after all if you want a fast puck possession team, why do you sign Moulson, and Franson and trade for Franson?  How do any of them fit the word fast? Also if you say you are looking for a LD puck mover, why do you sign Franson and acquire Kulikov?  These moves must have given TP a migraine and took away TP's confidence that GMTM was ready to be a GM.  I agree.

     

    I know TBN is going to blame the firing on TP's mismanagement of his sports team, and while there is ample evidence to support that simple conclusion, in doesn't change the fact that TM was in over his head at this point as a GM.  That doesn't mean TM won't learn from his mistakes here and become a good GM down the road. Ultimately TM must learn from this experience that you can't rush a rebuild.  

     

    There is no way TP can win here.  If he did nothing, he would be slammed.  He brings change, he gets slammed.

     

    The media narrative was that Bylsma was bad, but TM OK to good.  So to fire both makes the team dysfunctional.  Easy to argue.  But the team has lots of pieces that are good, and some better chefs might get them over the top.  TM did what he had to do, did some good and some bad,  but perhaps after 3 years a fresh set of eyes and the proper moves and proper coaching can get the team to the playoffs.  I liked TM, but I think this could work.  I think Pegula keeps searching for the right guy for him, like I think McDermott is the right guys for the Bills.  We shall see-- but I think he will get out of the way when he feels he has the right people in place--right for him and success for the team.

  2. No need to try and excuse the play away as "trying to do too much", it was what it was, which is Ristolainen's worst shift of his young career. He almost gave Marchand a breakaway seconds earlier on the same shift. He looked a bit rattled on the shift.  It had nothing to do with Gionta and Larsson, it was all Ristolainen. 

     

    It was an obvious bad call, which happen. I would have liked to see Lehner make the save there which nullifies the bad call. The graphic above is cute, I would have liked to see Lehner do more than fall on his stomach on the penalty shot. Would have been great to see him pickup his young teammate up with a save after a bad shift. 

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    Exactly.  We gave up way too much for Lehner and this just proves it once again. :-)

  3. Awesome ... What life has taught me: She'll remember forever.

    Actually, she is now 26 and a prosecutor in Annapolis Maryland.  I think tonight is a walk down memory lane for her, as she has loved hockey games and the Sabres since she was very small, even though she grew up down here. Father daughter thing.  So your point is correct-- she does remember.  :rolleyes:

  4. Bucky's right if running something you've never run before means you're in over your head. I was in over my head at my son's first birthday. Absent being a sports owner savant, who isn't?

     

    I might have written "after keeping the team in Buffalo, Pegula is now 12 months into developing a winner". No doubt season one has been sidewise. No doubt football managerial talent, probably from the outside, will be necessary.

     

    I reserve "in over his head" for someone who's had the time and resources to be successful but has not. Click bait headlines.

     

    The direction of the hockey club satisfies me. It really happened as quickly as it could, first day press conferences not withstanding. I think it can happen more quickly in football, although it doesn't necessarily.

     

    Two slow with Darcy and too quick with Rex?

    I totally agree.  Owners by nature don't know anything about sports, they got rich doing other things and teams are expensive toys that are also a good investment.  The Pegulas have put Tim Murray and Doug Whaley in charge of putting the teams together, that is the expertise they are relying on.  If you want to say those are bad choices, that's fine.  But the Pegulas did not trade for McCoy or sign Clay, Whaley did.  As Whaley said yesterday, all the Pegulas do is say, how can we help you make the team better.

     

    Bucky reads like a "reporter" for a Middle School newspaper, it has about that level of sophistication.  I don't begrudge him his opinions, but they are simply not that well thought out in using "over their heads" language. He seems to be saying they should use the Tom Donahoe model Ralph used for a while, but plainly that management approach did not work. But bottom line is we will keep reading this kind of stuff unless the teams get better and make the playoffs.  Until that happens, the Pegulas are just nice people who have not figured out how to build a winner.  If they do, they will be management geniuses.  If they don't then they can be fairly called inept owners.  But we have not had enough time yet to reach a conclusion IMO. 

  5. Not to speak for Hoss, but I'm pretty sure he's referring to bullfighting, cockfighting, and jellyfish dodgeball. Them stingers can hurt.

    Well that stuff is and should be illegal.  To compare illegal sports where the object is to have animals hurt or kill each other to horse racing is absurd IMO.  Bullfighting seems absurd to me.  What about hunting-- I don't care for it but will we outlaw that too?

  6. Your experiences are the good side of it, but there's an ugly side and culture in all major animal sports. If everybody cared for the animals as much as you do then it wouldn't be as much of an issue. And there's absolutely no way to get everybody at your level. It will never happen or even come close to it...

    As far as the food reference - irrelevant to this conversation. That's an entirely different subject (one that I have similar thoughts on despite being a meat eater). Regulations there should be far more thorough than they are... But that's not what I am discussing right now.

    My level is closer to the norm than you think.  There are abuses in all walks of life, which is wrong and typically illegal.  I'm not sure what other animal sports you have in mind that are legal.  There is some dog racing, but that has been mostly eliminated.  What are you referring to? 

  7. Couple things...

    1. The argument that it's what they're bred to do is irrelevant in my opinion because that's still a purely human thing. The horses didn't make the choice to breed purely for racing.

    2. Any comparison to professional human sports is also irrelevant. Those are humans making human decisions for millions of dollars. There should be further safety measures but that's a completely different subject for a far away thread.

     

    Overbreeding winning horses has long been one of the issues that people have with horse racing, as well, so I'm not sure he'll really enjoy 120 partners a year.

     

    These animals are risking their lives so rich white people can stand around and blow their kids' futures. The second they have a serious leg injury it's game over. The sacrifices are often and too large to justify it by assuming that humans giving them a purpose makes their lives better. This is my opinion on the matter. I do not believe animal sports should be supported or legal. I know plenty of people who own horses and do nothing but feed them, clean them and allow them to roam freely in very large amounts of land.

    It's difficult to address all your misperceptions.  There would be no thoroughbred horses without humans.  They are not running around in nature.  So I don't get your point-- they would not be around but for humans.  To be sure there are some wild horses, but those largely escaped from human breeding as well.

     

    The stuff about rich white people blowing their kids future is the worst kind of stereotyping.  Horses are not overbred-- particularly high quality horses.  Dogs yes, horses no.  And I still have my 2 y/o's great grandmother-- she's 29.  She has not raced in over 20 years, but she lives life as a pensioner on a beautiful farm in Maryland.  When her career was over we took care of her, it was not "game over" as you suggest.  She has been a happy camper for years, after having 6 foals.

     

    I respect your concern about animals, I really do. But if you look how we raise our food, it is way worse than anything going on with horses.  And if there was no racing, the breed would simply die out.  I don't think-- as you suggest-- you really understand the horse industry.  I love dogs and horses, I'm not out to hurt them but to take care of them.

  8. This question would be more suited for somebody far more knowledgeable on horses and animals in general, but my first thought is to say that plenty of animals live with no human purpose. Plenty of them go extinct and plenty of them don't. I'm not sure which way horses would go if not for sporting use.

    As far as the animal kingdom goes I think humans should leave it alone as much as possible. When we have the resources to easily preserve an animal's existence without changing the way they live too drastically then I think we should do it... Otherwise we should let them live as they do as much as possible. When human in life is in danger then I'm okay with measures being taken to prevent harm, but that's about it. (This isn't a statement about hunting, I won't discuss hunting because I haven't really developed much of an opinion either way as far as hunting for food goes)

    If you would spend some time around race horses, I think you would feel differently.  They get tremendous care and are loved by their trainers and owners for the most part.  And they love to run and race.  That is what they have been bred to do.  I have a two year old named Ice On the Severn, who is such a class act and is one of the happiest animals I know, particularly when he gets to go out with other horses.  

     

    To be sure, there are abuses, but there is in everything in life.  Do you think the NFL is completely humane?  I'd much rather be a racehorse than an NFL player in terms of long term quality of life.  I mean after next year, all American Pharoah will have to do for 20 plus years is have sex with 120 different mares each year.  He will not have any long term concussive issues or commit suicide.

     

    What American Pharoah did yesterday was magnificent.  It is a time to celebrate a truly remarkable athlete, not get bogged down in throwing out the good in a fruitless effort of trying to make the world a perfect place.

  9. Only way I wouldn't be happy w/ Eichel is if he doesn't sign w/ the Sabres for the 2015/16 season. Eichel's college coach is encouraging him to move on to the NHL this year, correct? 

    No, that's not right.  BU just made him an alternate captain.  Why would anyone want to lose Eichel?

  10. Gerry Meehan takes offense to that.   :lol:  For the youngins', Meehan scored a goal against the Flyers in the last game of one of the early years(71-72?), that knocked the Flyers out of the playoffs.  How did that taste Clarksie? LOL

     

    [edited]WOW...I found this video of the goal described above.  Look at the awesome crowd reaction.  Chet & Muffy got into the game back in the day.   

     

     

    I was at that game.  We were all chanting Let's go Penguins for the last 10 minutes, as the Sabres victory pushed them past the Flyers.  Great game.

  11. Question: Who pays the premium on that kind of insurance? It can't be cheap. Also, would you want to bet your life on an insurance company paying off?

    He does.  It is not cheap, but the chances of a catastrophic injury are pretty low so it's not that bad.  And I would never bet anything on what an insurance company will do when a claim is made, but this is pretty straightforward stuff and an insurance company can't be stiffing people and expect the business.  I've insured racehorses for catastrophic injury, and it only happened once but the insurance was paid promptly and without debate once proof of how the injury was sustained was provided.  I expect it would be no different for human athletes. 

  12. Link?  Also I am not making things up.  Todd Gurley's insurance policy was worth $10million if I remember correctly.  Jack Eichel is worth less than Todd Gurley. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11888065/georgia-bulldogs-upped-todd-gurley-insurance-policy-10-million-coverage  

     

    Here is where I got my original information on the NCAA policy http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/insurance/student-athlete-insurance-programs

    He can get hurt anywhere, so I am not sure what your point is.  He will get insurance either at the NCAA or NHL level to ensure future earnings if he is smart-- not the basic NCAA insurance that you cite but a much richer more expensive policy.  Do you think if he goes to the NHL and has a huge injury at age 19 it won't affect future earnings?  He can't cash in on his whole career by coming out now.  And he can get as much insurance as an insurer will give based on career income projections.

     

     Now coming out now he starts his earning earlier, so over the life of his career he will likely make more the sooner he comes out.  But the notion of coming out because of injury risk is not that big a deal, and an informed player will know that.  Now I think JE will come out, but it is false comfort on that score to think he has to do it because of money.  Think Andrew Luck for a recent example of staying in school and big money.

  13. Not really that much, guys buy insurance to cover such an instance. 

    Indeed they do.  There were lots of players like Shattenkirk who were on BU's 2009 championship team after they were drafted, and were first rate NHL players.  Again I don't think it likely JE stays, but the notion that everyone just jumps because of money is false.  Money still talks, but it always depends on circumstances.

    No. You're just making things up. The NCAA sponsored program pays out up to $5Mil for exceptional players and there is a private market that will tailor a plan for one's needs. 

     

    It still makes more sense for him to come out out of school and not have to put himself in a situation to deal with insurance issues.

    Again you are right.  You can ensure a future income stream.  It's pretty expensive, but a bank will finance that too.  When you have the earning potential of JE, lots of people will advance you the money you need to be safe and insured.

  14. My understanding is that if he were on academic probation he would already be prohibited from playing in games (no pass, no play).

    Correct.  He is not on academic probation.  And I don't think he will return to BU and if he does it would only be for a year.  Thus my original question.  But we did without Reinhart for a year, and player development is what it is.  Eichel will get more development in NCAA hockey the Reinhart got in junior hockey, IMO.  He could end up in Rochester if he comes out, and even if he sticks with the Sabres-- likely-- he is not going to be dominant in year one by any stretch IMO.  Neither McDavid nor Eichel will be an instant fix, but they will be fun to watch and give a glimpse of the future, but not turn the Sabres into a 96-100 point team next year in order to make the playoffs.

  15. While college puck is the stepsister to the chl, it matters in places like Boston and Minnesota and a few others. I could see a Boston kid valuing it more than others. But I think he goes pro, it is his future, so why not start now.

    He might also feel he needs another year to mature physically.  He seemed a bit worn down last night playing against 22 year olds.  Imagine being in the NHL .

  16. While it may seem unlikely, there is a possibility of him playing another year, especially now that BU lost the title game.  When asked about it last night, Eichel, while clearly not tipping his hand, articulated the advantages to staying in school and furthering his development.   

     

    Question, does this have any impact on drafting him, assuming the 80% probability comes to pass and the Sabres draft second?

  17. Last I checked Bush won, so, I guess he did do a better job in the debate.

     

    BTW, I bet my girlfriend that you'd bring George Bush into this, you libs are so predictable.

    Bush did not win anything-- Gore got more votes.  He was awarded the job by Republicans on the Supreme Court who, comically, supposedly believe in states rights.  No wonder he was the worst president ever.

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