rickshaw Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 the Oil have nobody that we need. pronger and smyth are going nowhere, so why even hope. steve staios??? please. the guy is slightly better than rory will be. hang on to biron longer. somebody is gonna need him, bad, and the price will go up. it's too early to move him. on a side note, ethan moreau busted his leg today playing pickup hoops. like we need a white man who can't jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_toddkaz Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Peca is unrestricted next year can be signed for 2 million or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 peca is at best a 3rd liner on the current sabres roster. been there, done that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgobuffalo45 Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 the Oil have nobody that we need. pronger and smyth are going nowhere, so why even hope. steve staios??? please. the guy is slightly better than rory will be. hang on to biron longer. somebody is gonna need him, bad, and the price will go up. it's too early to move him. on a side note, ethan moreau busted his leg today playing pickup hoops. like we need a white man who can't jump. Dude, are you serious? Staios is a million times better than Rory will EVER be. Rory Fitzpatrick, in my opinion, is extremely boarderline being an NHL'er. I doubt Edmonton will let go of a guy like Jaret Stoll, he's been amazing for them this year. Give me two of the following guys in return for Biron... Staios, Moreau, Torres... and I'll be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan in MD Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 If we could get Staios and Moreau for Biron and a prospect I would do it in a heartbeat. Right on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Moreau you idiot.... Oilers confirm Moreau sprains ankle... http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp...130_152951_5168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Dude, are you serious? Staios is a million times better than Rory will EVER be. Rory Fitzpatrick, in my opinion, is extremely boarderline being an NHL'er. I doubt Edmonton will let go of a guy like Jaret Stoll, he's been amazing for them this year. Give me two of the following guys in return for Biron... Staios, Moreau, Torres... and I'll be happy Dude, get with the times and get an avatar! do it! DO IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella25 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 IMO bringing Peca back to Buffalo would be a huge mistake. His role as a "defensive forward" has been significantly diminished due to the fast pace of the "new" NHL. Bottom line is he isn't the same player he was. Sure, he was good in the playoffs for us, but that was 6-7 years ago now. As for Reasoner, I don't see anything special about him. Who cares if he has local ties. I think a better destination for Biron or Noronen would be Vancouver. Ohlund would look nice in a Sabres uni, as would Sami Salo who is enjoying a great year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 IMO bringing Peca back to Buffalo would be a huge mistake. His role as a "defensive forward" has been significantly diminished due to the fast pace of the "new" NHL. Bottom line is he isn't the same player he was. Sure, he was good in the playoffs for us, but that was 6-7 years ago now. As for Reasoner, I don't see anything special about him. Who cares if he has local ties. I think a better destination for Biron or Noronen would be Vancouver. Ohlund would look nice in a Sabres uni, as would Sami Salo who is enjoying a great year. Well, let me start this off by alerting everyone to the fact that no one in this thread has metioned wanting Peca. It was in the original post by ToddKaz and I can't figure out if he wants Peca, heard his name in a rumor or what. So lets not get all worked up about Peca. No way they take him back at 4 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Well, let me start this off by alerting everyone to the fact that no one in this thread has metioned wanting Peca. It was in the original post by ToddKaz and I can't figure out if he wants Peca, heard his name in a rumor or what. So lets not get all worked up about Peca. No way they take him back at 4 million. Would it be at $4 million? Isn't he a UFA after this season? If that's true it may not be out of the realm of possibility. Regier did bring in Audette after the first go around didn't end well. I'm not advocating his return. I'm just tossing it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSabre Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Spector's is the best. Not a lot of cutting edge stuff as he just reports other's info, but his analysis of the rumors is usually very insightful. http://spectorshockey.tripod.com/default.html his usually pretty close to whats going on as well. not seen better than that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Would it be at $4 million? Isn't he a UFA after this season? If that's true it may not be out of the realm of possibility. Regier did bring in Audette after the first go around didn't end well. I'm not advocating his return. I'm just tossing it out there. If Peca is an UFA after this season, I wouldn't mind having him on my team for the stretch run. I'm not sure if he would want to be here after all the bad feelings. His presence could be a distraction and possibly ruin team chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 If Peca is an UFA after this season, I wouldn't mind having him on my team for the stretch run. I'm not sure if he would want to be here after all the bad feelings. His presence could be a distraction and possibly ruin team chemistry. Do you think the "team chemistry" is that fragile. Peca is not exactly T.O.. I don't know. As far as vertern players who would fit under Lindy's system I can't think of many better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella25 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Well, let me start this off by alerting everyone to the fact that no one in this thread has metioned wanting Peca. It was in the original post by ToddKaz and I can't figure out if he wants Peca, heard his name in a rumor or what. So lets not get all worked up about Peca. No way they take him back at 4 million. I'm not getting "worked up," but rather i am saying bringing him back would be a bonehead move, IMO. It doesn't matter anyway, I haven't seen any reports indicating the slightest interest in him from the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeygirl Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 We definitely need to do something and it wouldn't be for the sake of doing something this time around.....we are right up there. I feel like new money around all these teams who are like old money, relatively. Well you know what I mean, I want us to one at least win one round....and there's no reason why we can't. And as much as we complain about Darcy, he's proven, at least to me, that he is one of the best GMs in the league, and I know something big or a few things that add up to something big is gonna happen for us before the deadline and we're going to go into the playoffs like gangbusters...what what. (I live in the city, I can say things like what what, don't attempt such things if you live in Hamburg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Do you think the "team chemistry" is that fragile. Peca is not exactly T.O.. I don't know. As far as vertern players who would fit under Lindy's system I can't think of many better. I'm sure this entire discussion is moot because if he was coming back I'm sure mangement would make sure his mind is in the right place. Then again, he's not coming anyway so lets figure out what crappy team will start unloading like the Blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 IMO bringing Peca back to Buffalo would be a huge mistake. His role as a "defensive forward" has been significantly diminished due to the fast pace of the "new" NHL. Bottom line is he isn't the same player he was. Sure, he was good in the playoffs for us, but that was 6-7 years ago now. As for Reasoner, I don't see anything special about him. Who cares if he has local ties. I think a better destination for Biron or Noronen would be Vancouver. Ohlund would look nice in a Sabres uni, as would Sami Salo who is enjoying a great year. Ohlund is untouchable in Vancouver. Mark my words, he is the LAST player they would trade. Seriously. He's their best defenseman by a mile. He's not going anywhere. He'd look great in Buffalo, but that's a pipe dream. As for Staois. I live out West and see these guys all the time. Steve Staios was left unprotected by the Canucks in the expansion draft. That's how much they thought of him. He has improved but he is not worth dealing Biron. Stoll and another would be good, but I really don't think the Oilers have much we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Ohlund is untouchable in Vancouver. Mark my words, he is the LAST player they would trade. Seriously. He's their best defenseman by a mile. He's not going anywhere. He'd look great in Buffalo, but that's a pipe dream. As for Staois. I live out West and see these guys all the time. Steve Staios was left unprotected by the Canucks in the expansion draft. That's how much they thought of him. He has improved but he is not worth dealing Biron. Stoll and another would be good, but I really don't think the Oilers have much we need. Are you joking? Ed Jovanovski is their best defenseman by a mile...HE is untouchable. Ohlund is their best defenseman at the moment because Jovo is out wiht an injury right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Are you joking? Ed Jovanovski is their best defenseman by a mile...HE is untouchable. Ohlund is their best defenseman at the moment because Jovo is out wiht an injury right now. Dude, Jovo is a high risk player. He has offensive upside. However, as a BC boy, I can tell you from watching all their games that Ohlund is by far their best d man. Jovo is very touchable. He's free to go after this season as well, so if he returns and is healthy, he could be moved. Ohlund plays against all the other teams' top lines. Jovo does not. Jovo is just a higher profile guy because of his skating ability. Ask anyone in the Canucks' "know" and you'll find Ohlund will be gone well after Jovo. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Ohlund is far more important than Jovo. The Canucks have 11 wins with Jovo out so far this season, against 5 losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLH Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Are you joking? Ed Jovanovski is their best defenseman by a mile...HE is untouchable. Ohlund is their best defenseman at the moment because Jovo is out wiht an injury right now. Completely and totally inaccurate. I'd venture to say that Jovo is the third best defensman on the Canucks this season and I'm not taking the injury into account at all. Throw in his injury concerns and his contract status and he is far from the Canucks most "untouchable" defenseman. Ohlund, due to his elite status and bargain price, is the most untouchable and Salo isn't far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 MLH, thanks for the backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlecap Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Don't trade for Peca. He has lost it. Too many hits to that little body of his and the league has cracked down on headhunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 As for Staois. I live out West and see these guys all the time. Steve Staios was left unprotected by the Canucks in the expansion draft. That's how much they thought of him. If I remember correctly, Dominik Hasek was left unprotected in one of the expansion drafts a while back. That is not the best way to guage a player's current value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 If I remember correctly, Dominik Hasek was left unprotected in one of the expansion drafts a while back. That is not the best way to guage a player's current value. Shrader, Staois (he actually bought a beer one night during the then ritual Canucks night out after not making the playoffs, but i digress) is much improved since then, I'll give him that. But let's be clear. He is not worth giving up Biron. Him and somebody else from Edmonton aren't enough, in my eyes. Unless of course it's Prongs or Smyth and we know that ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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