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Just now, LGR4GM said:

 

Gilbert will clear. 

8 games in the NHL last year. 37 in the NHL. Of course he’ll clear. People can be so off the rails with talk of certain players being a waiver risk. 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Balsy move to assume Östlund, Helenius, or Kulich are capable right now of those roles. 

Jack Quinn had 20g and one 50pts. We've never seen any of those 3 even come close. 

Gilbert will clear. 

As he has done many times.

23 minutes ago, shrader said:

8 games in the NHL last year. 37 in the NHL. Of course he’ll clear. People can be so off the rails with talk of certain players being a waiver risk. 

If a guy is getting waived, isn't he pretty much a replacement-level player by definition?

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Posted
7 hours ago, Taro T said:

Barring the big trade we all are hoping for but not fully expecting anymore, would expect Helenius, Kozak, and Gilbert to start the year in Ra-cha-cha if there are no players on IR right out of the gate.  And can't really recall a season when someone wasn't on IR to start the year.

Gilbert initially being the 1st D call up when someone goes out injured drawing Metsa into the lineup.

Helenius starting the year in Ra-cha-cha untll a top 9 player goes out injured and then getting called up and never wearing Ra-cha-cha 94 again.  If Kozak clears waivers, expect he's the callup when someone on line 4 goes out injured (unless there's no room on the top 3 lines for Krebs and then he needs 2 4th liners to go out).

Still expecting more moves, but not nearly as convinced there'll be a blockbuster as was when the Habs snuck by them.

I would prefer for Helenius to be so good in camp and preseason that they can’t send him down. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Balsy move to assume Östlund, Helenius, or Kulich are capable right now of those roles. 

Jack Quinn had 20g and one 50pts. We've never seen any of those 3 even come close. 

Gilbert will clear. 

If he stays up I'm going to predict Helenius does put up those numbers.

Gilbert might clear, but he's a bubble veteran and if somebody has injuries I could see him claimed as well. That doesn't really concern me though.

My point is really if you are truly setting up a culture of earning the spot, everybody equal and the job goes to the best player (which they have alluded to now establishing) how do you maintain that if Helenius, Östlund or Kulich outplay Zucker, McLeod, even Quinn. It's a tricky issue for a newly established culture that you want to develop and not work against for convenience. 

I could be wrong, but I think Zucker is at the point of his career where he might start to suck. Just a question of how bad. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, dudacek said:

As he has done many times.

If a guy is getting waived, isn't he pretty much a replacement-level player by definition?

With rare exceptions - Pominville, cough, cough.  MAYBE Ellis.

Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, #freejame said:

Peyton Krebs is a versatile forward who can play up and down the lineup who has improved on his point total and goal scoring every year the last three season while playing less than 14 minutes per night. He finished second on the Sabres in hits with 201 and fourth among forwards in blocked shots. His 12 ESG puts him at 6th for forwards. 

How did you get Krebs’ agents notes for the arbitration hearing?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

How did you get Krebs’ agents notes for the arbitration hearing?

Krebs’ agent would focus only onto the lineup part, not the down. 

Posted
1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Top 6 players, whatever those are, are now $18MM/yr. 

There’s plenty of top 6 players that are under contract for much less that could be traded for.

Posted
21 hours ago, #freejame said:

Peyton Krebs is a versatile forward who can play up and down the lineup who has improved on his point total and goal scoring every year the last three season while playing less than 14 minutes per night. He finished second on the Sabres in hits with 201 and fourth among forwards in blocked shots. His 12 ESG puts him at 6th for forwards. 

And he played over 80 games in each of the last three seasons and 74 games the season preceding, so he plays with bumps and bruises. Good example to his teammates. Easy to see why Ruff likes him. With his new contract, glad to see Jarmo does as well

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Believer said:

And he played over 80 games in each of the last three seasons and 74 games the season preceding, so he plays with bumps and bruises. Good example to his teammates. Easy to see why Ruff likes him. With his new contract, glad to see Jarmo does as well

 

He's likely going to be a penalty killer as well this season, regardless of what 5x5 line he is on.  

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Sabres presser had a couple interesting factoids that I haven’t seen talked about much:

Krebs was top 25 in the league in hits last year and one of just 7 players who had 200 hits and 35 points

He was also in the 90th percentile in both max speed and speed bursts.

Hes not Doan or Benson, but he is very much a player who helps create the Sabres identity up front

 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Name some that teams want to move?

Dylan Larkin. 

Mason McTavish was moved at the draft. 

Matthew Barzal is supposedly available. 

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Based on this 4 year contract and trade rumors crawling to a halt, if I had to bet, our lineup is set going into camp.

UPL/Lyon

Samuelsson Dahlin

Power Crevier

Zellweger Timmins

Metsa

Forwards, I see one of two paths:

Benson Kulich Tage

Östlund Norris Quinn

Zucker McLeod Doan

Malenstyn Carrick Krebs

Or Kulich is not ready and...

Benson Krebs Tage

Malenstyn Carrick Danforth

 

This a playoff team? 

Posted
1 minute ago, oddoublee said:

Based on this 4 year contract and trade rumors crawling to a halt, if I had to bet, our lineup is set going into camp.

UPL/Lyon

Samuelsson Dahlin

Power Crevier

Zellweger Timmins

Metsa

Forwards, I see one of two paths:

Benson Kulich Tage

Östlund Norris Quinn

Zucker McLeod Doan

Malenstyn Carrick Krebs

Or Kulich is not ready and...

Benson Krebs Tage

Malenstyn Carrick Danforth

 

This a playoff team? 

It’s a 109-point team that roughly substituted:

Kulich for Tuch 

Helenius/Danforth for Greenway

Carrick for Dunne

Zellweger for Byram

Crevier for Kesselring/Bryson

So probably?

Posted
5 minutes ago, dudacek said:

It’s a 109-point team that roughly substituted:

Kulich for Tuch 

Helenius/Danforth for Greenway

Carrick for Dunne

Zellweger for Byram

Crevier for Kesselring/Bryson

So probably?

I'm 50/50

Kulich can't play as many roles as Tuch did

Helenius I believe starts in Rochester. Danforth is not better than Greenway.

Zellweger is not close to byram in terms of ability. Good puck mover - deployed offensively mainly...I think he gets sheltered minutes here as well

Crevier is an upgrade. 

I'm 50/50. If they get in...it feels like a WC team and not a top 3 division team. 

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Dylan Larkin. 

Mason McTavish was moved at the draft. 

Matthew Barzal is supposedly available. 

Buffalo has the added burden of NMCs. We know the Sabres aren't on Larkin's list. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, oddoublee said:

I'm 50/50

Kulich can't play as many roles as Tuch did

Helenius I believe starts in Rochester. Danforth is not better than Greenway.

Zellweger is not close to byram in terms of ability. Good puck mover - deployed offensively mainly...I think he gets sheltered minutes here as well

Crevier is an upgrade. 

I'm 50/50. If they get in...it feels like a WC team and not a top 3 division team. 

 

Then there’s the argument that both of us are assuming everyone else stays the same.

What if the goalies regress and Samuelsson returns to his injury prone ways?

What if Quinn drops 30 and Norris plays 75 games?

So many variables. But I do believe there is enough talent on the roster.

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