Brawndo Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 (edited) Jason Robertson is expected to file by 5pm. Does Peyton Krebs do the same? Edited July 13 by Brawndo Quote
tom webster Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 I have no idea what happens with Krebs but if they sign him there has to be another move or two coming as they would have 15 signed forwards. Quote
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 1 hour ago, tom webster said: I have no idea what happens with Krebs but if they sign him there has to be another move or two coming as they would have 15 signed forwards. Lots of time to play things out. I’d think they’d have no problem waiving Kozak if they had to. And they can make a trade after things sort themselves out in training camp if needed. 4 1 Quote
tom webster Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 10 minutes ago, dudacek said: Lots of time to play things out. I’d think they’d have no problem waiving Kozak if they had to. And they can make a trade after things sort themselves out in training camp if needed. Of course. Quote
Jorcus Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 29 minutes ago, dudacek said: Lots of time to play things out. I’d think they’d have no problem waiving Kozak if they had to. And they can make a trade after things sort themselves out in training camp if needed. Waving Danforth would be a better option. I don't think he would get claimed with his salary and injury situation. They might want him to get claimed at this point. Quote
Trettioåtta Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 Rochester is empty. I wouldn't be surprised if we run 14 forwards at the very least. Teams are always carrying one to two injuries at anyone time. Quote
shrader Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said: Rochester is empty. I wouldn't be surprised if we run 14 forwards at the very least. Teams are always carrying one to two injuries at anyone time. There’s a major problem with this if they’re going to run with three goalies again. 2 2 Quote
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trettioåtta said: Rochester is empty. I wouldn't be surprised if we run 14 forwards at the very least. Teams are always carrying one to two injuries at anyone time. I see 18 guaranteed roster spots for: Thompson, Norris, McLeod, Benson, Doan, Quinn, Zucker, Krebs, Malenstyn, Carrick, Dahlin, Mule, Power, Zellweger, Crevier, Timmons, Luukkonen and Lyon. I would be shocked if Östlund, Kulich and Danforth aren't in the last three forward slots bringing things to 21. Östlund, to me, earned a spot last year and the only reason I'm including him here is the fact he is still waiver-exempt. Kulich and Danforth could fall out of these spots if they've lost something since the last time they played, but I doubt that is management's expectation. Ellis and Metsa are likely pencilled into the final two spots as things stand right now, with the expectation that Helenius will almost certainly force them to make a roster move in the unlikely event they actually leave training camp fully healthy. Konsta is the guy who will have to earn his spot by outplaying people in front of him, something he is fully capable of doing. Gilbert, Johnson, Kozak and Sheary are probably next in line, but — barring injury — I expect them to be waived and to clear. 1 hour ago, Jorcus said: Waving Danforth would be a better option. I don't think he would get claimed with his salary and injury situation. They might want him to get claimed at this point. I feel like I'm the only person who thinks the Danforth and the Kulich we'll get in September are the same Danforth and Kulich we were expecting last September. They were legit NHLers when they were healthy. I'm not sure why so many people believe their injuries have changed that. Edited July 5 by dudacek 2 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 23 minutes ago, dudacek said: I feel like I'm the only person who thinks the Danforth and the Kulich we'll get in September are the same Danforth and Kulich we were expecting last September. They were legit NHLers when they were healthy. I'm not sure why so many people believe their injuries have changed that. It's not exactly that for me. It's more like I don't want to bank a season expecting that to necessarily be the case. I can't really say about Danforth and he's really not all that important as a bottom line guy but Kulich is a question mark. Matter of fact all the young guys are question marks. I mean what if: - Doan had a peak year and he's just not up to that every year and plays like the third liner we thought we had when we got him? - Benson remains a pest but the production just doesn't come - Östlund and Helenius have sophomore slumps and we start to see things similar to the Cozens kid line era. - and then Kulich has lost a bit and has trouble getting it back All things are always possible with young players. Hence when we rely on them my expectation is low and I hope they all keep getting better but I am very reluctant to rely on that for your possible success. It looks like we're stuck with that though. If the kids (so to speak) are good, we will be fine. But if not, it'll all fall apart quickly just like it did for Ruff in New Jersey. 3 Quote
Night Train Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 11 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: It's not exactly that for me. It's more like I don't want to bank a season expecting that to necessarily be the case. I can't really say about Danforth and he's really not all that important as a bottom line guy but Kulich is a question mark. Matter of fact all the young guys are question marks. I mean what if: - Doan had a peak year and he's just not up to that every year and plays like the third liner we thought we had when we got him? - Benson remains a pest but the production just doesn't come - Östlund and Helenius have sophomore slumps and we start to see things similar to the Cozens kid line era. - and then Kulich has lost a bit and has trouble getting it back All things are always possible with young players. Hence when we rely on them my expectation is low and I hope they all keep getting better but I am very reluctant to rely on that for your possible success. It looks like we're stuck with that though. If the kids (so to speak) are good, we will be fine. But if not, it'll all fall apart quickly just like it did for Ruff in New Jersey. and then...depession set in.. Quote
shrader Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 47 minutes ago, dudacek said: . Östlund, to me, earned a spot last year and the only reason I'm including him here is the fact he is still waiver-eligible. Waiver-eligible means that you have to be placed on waivers. He’s exempt. Quote
Dr. Who Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 13 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: It's not exactly that for me. It's more like I don't want to bank a season expecting that to necessarily be the case. I can't really say about Danforth and he's really not all that important as a bottom line guy but Kulich is a question mark. Matter of fact all the young guys are question marks. I mean what if: - Doan had a peak year and he's just not up to that every year and plays like the third liner we thought we had when we got him? - Benson remains a pest but the production just doesn't come - Östlund and Helenius have sophomore slumps and we start to see things similar to the Cozens kid line era. - and then Kulich has lost a bit and has trouble getting it back All things are always possible with young players. Hence when we rely on them my expectation is low and I hope they all keep getting better but I am very reluctant to rely on that for your possible success. It looks like we're stuck with that though. If the kids (so to speak) are good, we will be fine. But if not, it'll all fall apart quickly just like it did for Ruff in New Jersey. You're painting a worst case scenario. Might work the other way, or somewhere in the middle. "Looks like we're stuck though" is likely true. What kind of plausible trade is out there? I was interested in Marchenko, but the rumor is Montreal had a ridiculous offer out there and it still wasn't enough to move him. Quote
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: It's not exactly that for me. It's more like I don't want to bank a season expecting that to necessarily be the case. I can't really say about Danforth and he's really not all that important as a bottom line guy but Kulich is a question mark. Matter of fact all the young guys are question marks. I mean what if: - Doan had a peak year and he's just not up to that every year and plays like the third liner we thought we had when we got him? - Benson remains a pest but the production just doesn't come - Östlund and Helenius have sophomore slumps and we start to see things similar to the Cozens kid line era. - and then Kulich has lost a bit and has trouble getting it back All things are always possible with young players. Hence when we rely on them my expectation is low and I hope they all keep getting better but I am very reluctant to rely on that for your possible success. It looks like we're stuck with that though. If the kids (so to speak) are good, we will be fine. But if not, it'll all fall apart quickly just like it did for Ruff in New Jersey. Except you aren't betting on Kulich, Östlund and Helenius to carry you, you're betting on 1 or 2 of them to be effective middle six players. The Doan and Benson questions are much more pertinent IMO, because these are guys we are betting on to be top 6 players. I am more comfortable making that bet on them than I am making it on Mason Marchment, or Blake Coleman. Your mileage may vary. 6 hours ago, shrader said: Waiver-eligible means that you have to be placed on waivers. He’s exempt. Thanks. Will correct. Edited July 6 by dudacek 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 33 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: It's not exactly that for me. It's more like I don't want to bank a season expecting that to necessarily be the case. I can't really say about Danforth and he's really not all that important as a bottom line guy but Kulich is a question mark. Matter of fact all the young guys are question marks. I mean what if: - Doan had a peak year and he's just not up to that every year and plays like the third liner we thought we had when we got him? - Benson remains a pest but the production just doesn't come - Östlund and Helenius have sophomore slumps and we start to see things similar to the Cozens kid line era. - and then Kulich has lost a bit and has trouble getting it back All things are always possible with young players. Hence when we rely on them my expectation is low and I hope they all keep getting better but I am very reluctant to rely on that for your possible success. It looks like we're stuck with that though. If the kids (so to speak) are good, we will be fine. But if not, it'll all fall apart quickly just like it did for Ruff in New Jersey. Tbf Helenius isn't a sophomore. He's Calder eligible. 1 Quote
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Tbf Helenius isn't a sophomore. He's Calder eligible. Don't see it as likely myself, but if Helenius is the player many here perceive him to be, a spot between Benson and Thompson and a Calder nomination can't be out of the question, right? 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Krebs files for arbitration As he should. Nothing abnormal here. 3 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 Interesting that Zegras and Drysdale also filed for arbitration….interesting days ahead for the Flyers? 2 Quote
shrader Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Carmel Corn said: Interesting that Zegras and Drysdale also filed for arbitration….interesting days ahead for the Flyers? It just locks them in with Philly. It actually makes things much easier for both sides. Quote
Night Train Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 14 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Interesting that Zegras and Drysdale also filed for arbitration….interesting days ahead for the Flyers? Zegras saw that 18 Mil offer sheet and may see himself elsewhere ? Quote
Hoss Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 24 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said: He can't be offer sheeted now, one perk That might not have been the worst-case scenario here 1 Quote
pastajoe Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 They should have traded Krebs rights last week. Time to move on. Quote
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 (edited) Hope he signs a 6-year extension with a full no-trade. Don't really care about the AAV. Just like I hope the Pegulas legally adopt Seth Appert. Edited July 5 by dudacek 2 Quote
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