Doohickie Posted July 8 Report Posted July 8 46 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: That deal is allegedly dead. If one was a precursor to the other, than is Kane also not happening? The jury is still out on that. But yes, I could see signing Kane in conjunction with a totall separate deal to open up a spot on the forward lines for him. Quote
CTJoe Posted July 8 Report Posted July 8 58 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: That deal is allegedly dead. If one was a precursor to the other, than is Kane also not happening? We have 14 or 15 forwards under contract (if you count Krebs); 12 start on any given game. If you sign Kane, you probably want to move 1 or 2 forwards out in another trade, whether it be Helle, Larkin, Thomas, for picks, whatever Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted July 8 Author Report Posted July 8 2 hours ago, Taro T said: Have complained about Ruff's characterization of their entries AND their ability to generate scoring chances quite a bit. Your observation isn't quite the "gotcha" you expect it is. There is a monstrously large gap between what the coaches publicly claim is happening on the PP and what the eye test and the results indicate is actually happening. Just one example - Ruff is on record as saying that the Sabres PP ranks in the top 5 (or was it top 3?) in entries leaguewide. If THAT is what their metrics and analytics are honestly telling him then their metrics are completely useless in this particular phase of the game. Their entries are particularly bad. That's not the only issue with the PP but it is one of the major ones. If you replace Appert with whoever, they are going to still run Lindy's system. So what's different? 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 8 Report Posted July 8 3 hours ago, JohnC said: What other players on this team do you have issues with? 1 3 1 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM Per Chris Cheilos is down to Buffalo or. Chicago. Chicago’s main advantage is there is less competition for a Top 6 Position, compared to a Top 9 in Buffalo Quote
CTJoe Posted Wednesday at 05:29 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:29 PM 4 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Per Chris Cheilos is down to Buffalo or. Chicago. Chicago’s main advantage is there is less competition for a Top 6 Position, compared to a Top 9 in Buffalo Buffalo's main advantage is it's a playoff team, and with a certain trade, a Cup contender. CHI is not and their star is out for the first 2 months Quote
Scottysabres Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM 21 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Per Chris Cheilos is down to Buffalo or. Chicago. Chicago’s main advantage is there is less competition for a Top 6 Position, compared to a Top 9 in Buffalo Where in the hell is Ruff going to stick all of these forwards? 1 Quote
Eleven Posted Wednesday at 05:47 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:47 PM 16 minutes ago, CTJoe said: Buffalo's main advantage is it's a playoff team, and with a certain trade, a Cup contender. CHI is not and their star is out for the first 2 months Bedard will be back by October. Quote
Scottysabres Posted Wednesday at 05:56 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:56 PM 6 minutes ago, Eleven said: Bedard will be back by October. Buffalo is much closer to contention. I guess it depends on what Kane wants, money or to contend. With his parents still here in Buffalo I’d think it would be a nice career finish to contend with them at home, but who knows honestly. We could always offer sheet Bedard 🤣 Quote
Doohickie Posted Wednesday at 05:58 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:58 PM 8 minutes ago, Eleven said: Bedard will be back by October. The report I saw was he had surgery July 8 with a 4-month recovery time (November). 2 Quote
#freejame Posted Wednesday at 05:59 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:59 PM Just now, Doohickie said: The report I saw was he had surgery July 8 with a 4-month recovery time (November). 4 months not counting fancy blood transfusions, peptides, and HGH. I kid, I kid. Kind of. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted Wednesday at 06:14 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 06:14 PM 26 minutes ago, Eleven said: Bedard will be back by October. Rushing him back? Quote
shrader Posted Wednesday at 07:00 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:00 PM 1 hour ago, Doohickie said: The report I saw was he had surgery July 8 with a 4-month recovery time (November). And that was an "at the earliest" estimate. 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted Wednesday at 09:21 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:21 PM For me, you sign Kane 1x3mil with up to 2 mil in bonuses based on points and games played. Then start either Helenius/Östlund and Kulich in Rochester to start the year. It will assure us strong depth in the case of the likely Norris injury and any other that may creep up. I love our 3 prospects but I also don’t want them all on the team to start the year for both the literal and figurative impact that would have to how the offseason went. Quote
oddoublee Posted Wednesday at 09:28 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:28 PM 4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: For me, you sign Kane 1x3mil with up to 2 mil in bonuses based on points and games played. Then start either Helenius/Östlund and Kulich in Rochester to start the year. It will assure us strong depth in the case of the likely Norris injury and any other that may creep up. I love our 3 prospects but I also don’t want them all on the team to start the year for both the literal and figurative impact that would have to how the offseason went. I don't hate what you're saying. But are we comfortable committing 18 minutes a night to Kane in Ruff's demanding two way system. Look what happened to skinner and JJ. (Assuming you believe Ruff wanted them gone for their one way focused play) Quote
dudacek Posted Thursday at 03:41 AM Report Posted Thursday at 03:41 AM 10 hours ago, Brawndo said: Per Chris Cheilos is down to Buffalo or. Chicago. Chicago’s main advantage is there is less competition for a Top 6 Position, compared to a Top 9 in Buffalo Chelly didn’t beat around the bush either if you watch the clip. Flat out said his source was Kane himself. 6 hours ago, oddoublee said: I don't hate what you're saying. But are we comfortable committing 18 minutes a night to Kane in Ruff's demanding two way system. Look what happened to skinner and JJ. (Assuming you believe Ruff wanted them gone for their one way focused play) Kane against middle six lines with Doan and Norris will be fine: their pace and diligence will cover for his flaws, and his strengths will help them fill the net. Doubt he’ll get 18 a night, more like 15 with 4 of those on the PP, which he will also improve. Ive really warmed up to this idea. 1 Quote
gilbert11 Posted Thursday at 03:43 AM Report Posted Thursday at 03:43 AM On 6/30/2026 at 11:30 AM, GASabresIUFAN said: No just no. Why did he seem to not want to play for the Sabres all these years when he was available. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted Thursday at 04:32 AM Report Posted Thursday at 04:32 AM 45 minutes ago, gilbert11 said: Why did he seem to not want to play for the Sabres all these years when he was available. Maybe because we stunk, had bad management, bad coaching and little to no hope of making the playoffs? As to signing Kane now, I don’t want both him and Zucker in our top 9. I would take Kane over Zucker, but we are already committed to Zucker. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted Thursday at 05:00 AM Report Posted Thursday at 05:00 AM If it's true that Kane is weighing up Buffalo vs. Chicago for a final contract I would bet he'd pick Buffalo if we already had Helleybuck. Get it done. Quote
thewookie1 Posted Thursday at 05:12 AM Report Posted Thursday at 05:12 AM 9 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: If it's true that Kane is weighing up Buffalo vs. Chicago for a final contract I would bet he'd pick Buffalo if we already had Helleybuck. Get it done. Not overpaying with Östlund or Helenius for Hellebuyck is my priority 1 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted Thursday at 06:55 AM Report Posted Thursday at 06:55 AM 1 hour ago, thewookie1 said: Not overpaying with Östlund or Helenius for Hellebuyck is my priority Personally I am not giving Helenius up to any trade. I see things in him I have not seen in a Sabres prospect in a long time. I look at where his game is and where his potential is and I find myself thinking why was he not drafted higher??? Mark my words, in 3 years he is Sabres leading scorer (or minimum top 3). Östlund I give up reluctantly. Would rather give up Quinn but if it takes Östlund and say we keep Mrtka because of that I'd live with it. I think it would still end up being the right move. 1 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted Thursday at 12:44 PM Author Report Posted Thursday at 12:44 PM 8 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Maybe because we stunk, had bad management, bad coaching and little to no hope of making the playoffs? Unlike today's Blackhawks. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted Thursday at 12:46 PM Author Report Posted Thursday at 12:46 PM 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: If it's true that Kane is weighing up Buffalo vs. Chicago for a final contract I would bet he'd pick Buffalo if we already had Helleybuck. Get it done. So explain to me why Buffalo has to improve itself while the Blackhawks are a mess? "I want to win" doesn't compute in this scenario. Quote
Doohickie Posted Thursday at 01:04 PM Report Posted Thursday at 01:04 PM 15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: So explain to me why Buffalo has to improve itself while the Blackhawks are a mess? "I want to win" doesn't compute in this scenario. You'll have to ask Patrick. 1 Quote
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