zow2 Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 I think the Sabres will get untracked on the PP. When I watched Montreal's penalty killing units vs Tampa, they are very passive. They stand around in the box, let the opponent set up with ease and rely on Dobes to make some huge saves. Maybe they change that up vs Buffalo, we'll see. But if not, we will score a few. Carolina on the flip side really pressures everyone who has the puck and forces turnovers. The Sabres really struggle with that style. 1 1 Quote
RETURNTOGLORY Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, zow2 said: I think the Sabres will get untracked on the PP. When I watched Montreal's penalty killing units vs Tampa, they are very passive. They stand around in the box, let the opponent set up with ease and rely on Dobes to make some huge saves. Maybe they change that up vs Buffalo, we'll see. But if not, we will score a few. Carolina on the flip side really pressures everyone who has the puck and forces turnovers. The Sabres really struggle with that style. "On-track" .You're welcome 😉 1 Quote
TageMVP Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 30 minutes ago, zow2 said: I think the Sabres will get untracked on the PP. When I watched Montreal's penalty killing units vs Tampa, they are very passive. They stand around in the box, let the opponent set up with ease and rely on Dobes to make some huge saves. Maybe they change that up vs Buffalo, we'll see. But if not, we will score a few. Carolina on the flip side really pressures everyone who has the puck and forces turnovers. The Sabres really struggle with that style. Hope youre right. They're probably gonna need it against a better team in Montreal. Power play doesnt matter as much when youre playing Boston who also struggled on the power play and struggled to score goals period I dont think they're getting away with it 2 rounds in a row. Montreal is better. Gotta make them pay 2 Quote
Taro T Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 40 minutes ago, zow2 said: I think the Sabres will get untracked on the PP. When I watched Montreal's penalty killing units vs Tampa, they are very passive. They stand around in the box, let the opponent set up with ease and rely on Dobes to make some huge saves. Maybe they change that up vs Buffalo, we'll see. But if not, we will score a few. Carolina on the flip side really pressures everyone who has the puck and forces turnovers. The Sabres really struggle with that style. Don't know, passive PP vs relatively passive PK could result in a lot of both units staking out where they want to be with Dahlin and Thompson moving the puck back and forth a lot without either bothering to attempt many shots. The Sabres PP seems to be most effective when they're forced to move the puck low by pressure up high and then getting good chances off the scramble created by the chaos. The one legit PP goal they got in April was based off more of their typical 5v5 rush with Dahlin joining the rush and getting the cross-ice pass from down low. Would really like to see them treat the PP like they treat 5v5 with full zone cycling to create mismatches and opportunity for the low cross ice passes that seem to be so effective. The near PP goal they got came from getting the puck low and then forcing it through to Doan who was right at the edge of the crease. Neither was off their typical top of the zone to the boards preferred PP movement play. Hoping 5 or so more days off with some new voices working tweaks to the strategy cause them to finally get their heads out of their bippies. But am not hopeful of that. 1 1 1 Quote
... Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 The Sabres' PP doesn't look all too different from others in these playoffs when they enter the zone and get set up. The problem is the PP #1 unit keeps trying to get the puck to Dangles. If a PK takes zone coverage, the whole thing stalls and they then get caught in a loop trying to pass it around until they can finally get it to Dangles. Or, lately, they're looking for the sneaky move the goalie east-west and get it in from other side but doing all of this with "skill". If the PK is man-to-man, that upsets everything. This unit just needs to keep moving the puck instead of waiting to assess the pieces on the board. They also need to try for more rebounds. Unit 2 will try a variation, mostly going for the sneaky goal, but they're more apt to get in front of the net. They look for rebounds, which, as a necessary consequence they are more likely to lose control of the puck. @Taro T is correct, IMHO, that the best thing to happen for the Sabres' PP is for the PKer's to play man and apply pressure. 2 Quote
transient Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 1 hour ago, RETURNTOGLORY said: "On-track" .You're welcome 😉 You would think that would be the case, but as illogical as it seems - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/untrack untrack verb un·track ˌən-ˈtrak untracked; untracking; untracks transitive verb : to cause to escape from a slump couldn't get untracked and played poorly throughout the game 🤔 ...unless I'm missing an inside joke. 🤷♂️😄 1 1 Quote
Jorcus Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 Besides having issues on face offs or entering the zone the other big problem with PP 1 is the lack of movement away from the puck. They just don't create passing or shooting lanes that the other team is not prepared for. I am way more worried about putting Montreal on the power play. Scary group. 2 Quote
Big Guava Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 1 hour ago, TageMVP said: Hope youre right. They're probably gonna need it against a better team in Montreal. Power play doesnt matter as much when youre playing Boston who also struggled on the power play and struggled to score goals period I dont think they're getting away with it 2 rounds in a row. Montreal is better. Gotta make them pay It would definitely help, but they are also one of the best 5-on-5 teams in the league and typically dominate most games when it's even strength. Quote
RETURNTOGLORY Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 1 hour ago, transient said: You would think that would be the case, but as illogical as it seems - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/untrack untrack verb un·track ˌən-ˈtrak untracked; untracking; untracks transitive verb : to cause to escape from a slump couldn't get untracked and played poorly throughout the game 🤔 ...unless I'm missing an inside joke. 🤷♂️😄 Hmmmm. I prefer " I think the Sabres will get back on track on the power play. When I watched Montreal’s penalty kill against Tampa, they were very passive. They stood around in the box, let Tampa set up with ease, and relied on Dobes to make some big saves. Maybe they’ll change that against Buffalo—we’ll see. But if not, we should score a few. What changed: “get untracked” → “get back on track” (more natural phrasing)" Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 Just be average. That's all I ask. If we get an average powerplay. it will be hard for anybody to beat us. 1 Quote
Weave Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 3 hours ago, Taro T said: Don't know, passive PP vs relatively passive PK could result in a lot of both units staking out where they want to be with Dahlin and Thompson moving the puck back and forth a lot without either bothering to attempt many shots. The Sabres PP seems to be most effective when they're forced to move the puck low by pressure up high and then getting good chances off the scramble created by the chaos. The one legit PP goal they got in April was based off more of their typical 5v5 rush with Dahlin joining the rush and getting the cross-ice pass from down low. Would really like to see them treat the PP like they treat 5v5 with full zone cycling to create mismatches and opportunity for the low cross ice passes that seem to be so effective. The near PP goal they got came from getting the puck low and then forcing it through to Doan who was right at the edge of the crease. Neither was off their typical top of the zone to the boards preferred PP movement play. Hoping 5 or so more days off with some new voices working tweaks to the strategy cause them to finally get their heads out of their bippies. But am not hopeful of that. I am pretty sure I’ve posted on here that our PP looks best when it operates like its 5 on 5. The low to high, and high across cycle is where they seem to get the best opportunities. I don’t know why they don’t consistently operate their 5 on 5 offense when they have a man advantage. 2 1 1 Quote
TageMVP Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 1 hour ago, RETURNTOGLORY said: Hmmmm. I prefer " I think the Sabres will get back on track on the power play. When I watched Montreal’s penalty kill against Tampa, they were very passive. They stood around in the box, let Tampa set up with ease, and relied on Dobes to make some big saves. Maybe they’ll change that against Buffalo—we’ll see. But if not, we should score a few. What changed: “get untracked” → “get back on track” (more natural phrasing)" I preferred not reading this so I didn't 1 Quote
RETURNTOGLORY Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 16 minutes ago, TageMVP said: I preferred not reading this so I didn't But Alas! You did! Quote
TageMVP Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 14 minutes ago, RETURNTOGLORY said: But Alas! You did! I read it. Read this too DARN IT 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 Simple solution: Part 1. Fire Seth Part 2. Play like it's 5-on-5 and scrap the PP strategy 1 1 Quote
Andrew Amerk Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 7 hours ago, wjag said: Just decline it. Score would be 2-2 right now if the Sabres were able to decline their power play opportunities. Great take 1 Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 Wasn’t necessarily pretty tonight, at all, but it was ultimately effective. That’s all that matters. Build on tonight’s successes. Quote
TageMVP Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 17 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said: Wasn’t necessarily pretty tonight, at all, but it was ultimately effective. That’s all that matters. Build on tonight’s successes. Get rid of that first sentence for crying out loud. What do want them to do? Score on EVERY powerplay? Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 2 minutes ago, TageMVP said: Get rid of that first sentence for crying out loud. What do want them to do? Score on EVERY powerplay? I mean, yeah, I want them to… 1 Quote
TageMVP Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 Just now, HumanSlinky39 said: I mean, yeah, I want them to… I just lost the argument/trolling/goofballing 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted May 7 Report Posted May 7 It was all PP2 tonite. PP1 still tries to force too many plays... especially on zone entries. Dahlin in particular. Byram takes what is given, doesn't turn the puck over and gets pucks to the net. I know it would sting for Dahlin, but I'd love to see Byram QB the top unit. Quote
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