Andrew Amerk Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 (edited) That was the least exciting draft lottery I’ve ever seen. What a stupid idea this concept of doing it this way, was. Edited May 5 by Andrew Amerk 1 Quote
shrader Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 Meanwhile Vancouver is horrifically bad and they fall all the way to 3rd. Lotteries are dumb. 4 Quote
thewookie1 Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 What a gut punch; what a ***** croc that they gave those bastards the 1st overall 2 1 Quote
Nacho Libre Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 Good. Hopefully they launch a long form “rEbUiLd” to line up with a new core and take the next 5+ years off Quote
Nacho Libre Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 Just now, Gatorman0519 said: Yikes! Is this rigged? I hate to be that guy. Approximately 0% chance it’s rigged 1 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 So lucky, they need Stenberg more than McKenna though. Feel bad for the Canucks. Quote
dudacek Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Huckleberry said: So lucky, they need Stenberg more than McKenna though. Feel bad for the Canucks. Canucks are terrible and have never won the lottery. They also need forwards and the best guys at 3 are probably D Quote
Second Line Center Posted May 5 Report Posted May 5 Hires Mats Sundin. Win lotto. Draft the Swede. No fix tho. Nah. 1 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Nacho Libre said: Approximately 0% chance it’s Not rigged Toronto's owners include the very media group that works out TV and advertising deals with the NHL for Canada Toronto is their biggest cash cow Toronto looks bad now and possibly in trouble due to Matthews wanting to depart Toronto has no 1sts 2/3 years coming up How do you fix that? Give them 1st Overall, then Matthews might be more inclined to stick around, Rodgers is happier with the NHL brass, and millions in jersey sales occur. People stop ridiculing the MLSE hiring of Chayka and the Toronto media is in a blissful stupor until Fall. It's just too on the nose not to be. Toronto misses the playoffs for the first time in 8 or so years and loses a star in Marner. Magically win lottery from 5th place. McDavid felt rigged to us since we were the loser but logically it didn't make sense for the league to send their best player to Edmonton. Sidney Crosby was likely fixed because it saved Pittsburgh's franchise; they likely move by 2010 otherwise. This feels like the Patrick Ewing story, there's just far too many threads that connect. Effectively Occam's Razor actually leans to it being fixed because the NHL benefits far too much for it to be pure chance. Edited May 6 by thewookie1 3 1 2 Quote
Nacho Libre Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Toronto's owners include the very media group that works out TV and advertising deals with the NHL for Canada Toronto is their biggest cash cow Toronto looks bad now and possibly in trouble due to Matthews wanting to depart Toronto has no 1sts 2/3 years coming up How do you fix that? Give them 1st Overall, then Matthews might be more inclined to stick around, Rodgers is happier with the NHL brass, and millions in jersey sales occur. People stop ridiculing the MLSE hiring of Chayka and the Toronto media is in a blissful stupor until Fall. It's just too on the nose not to be. Toronto misses the playoffs for the first time in 8 or so years and loses a star in Marner. Magically win lottery from 5th place. McDavid felt rigged to us since we were the loser but logically it didn't make sense for the league to send their best player to Edmonton. Sidney Crosby was likely fixed because it saved Pittsburgh's franchise; they likely move by 2010 otherwise. This feels like the Patrick Ewing story, there's just far too many threads that connect. Effectively Occam's Razor actually leans to it being fixed because the NHL benefits far too much for it to be pure chance. If you want to tell on yourself by claiming it’s “rigged” have at it. Literally zero understanding of Occam’s razor, even just for starters I’m sorry: if anyone *legitimately* believes it’s rigged, you need to go back and complete high school - it’s an embarrassingly bad opinion the moon landing was faked-ass opinion Edited May 6 by Nacho Libre 1 2 Quote
thewookie1 Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 Just now, Nacho Libre said: If you want to tell on yourself by claiming it’s “rigged” have at it. Literally zero understanding of Occam’s razor, even just for starters Occam's razor is a problem-solving and philosophical principle advising that when presented with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest one—requiring the fewest assumptions—is usually the best to start with. Am I to assume the NHL would rather give the pick to pure chance or to make more money by rigging it? 2 Quote
Nacho Libre Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Occam's razor is a problem-solving and philosophical principle advising that when presented with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest one—requiring the fewest assumptions—is usually the best to start with. Am I to assume the NHL would rather give the pick to pure chance or to make more money by rigging it? Lmao that’s not how it works the leafs had an *8.5% chance* to win. Why are we pretending that’s some sort of astronomical number? The cookie crumbling that way is a universal chasm of liklihood away from “ok we are going to risk our entire sport and rig the lottery” You are claiming rigged and “conspiracy” because a 1/10 chance unfolded. That sort of take requires a special level of nonsense Edited May 6 by Nacho Libre 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, Nacho Libre said: I’m sorry: if anyone *legitimately* believes it’s rigged, you need to go back and complete high school - it’s an embarrassingly bad opinion the moon landing was faked-ass opinion The moon landing was real Also, this is a good video about the Ewing story Just now, Nacho Libre said: Lmao that’s not how it works the leafs had an *8.5% chance* to win. Why are we pretending that’s some sort of astronomical number? The cookie crumbling that way is a universal chasm of liklihood away from “ok we are going to risk our entire sport and rig the lottery” The NBA got away with it, why couldn't the NHL? Toronto getting #1 makes the league and its owners wealthier. And you can't tell me this wasn't their golden goose scenario. 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 Just to add to the fire, there were reports floating around as of noon that Matthews was considering asking out. Quote
repster Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 Sundin will want Stenberg and Chayka will want McKenna and this is where the Leafs bickering will begin again! 1 Quote
Nacho Libre Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: The moon landing was real Also, this is a good video about the Ewing story The NBA got away with it, why couldn't the NHL? Toronto getting #1 makes the league and its owners wealthier. And you can't tell me this wasn't their golden goose scenario. So you are thinking 1 unproven conspiracy out of the multitude of lotteries to have taken place supports your argument mathematically, and not mine? Bold strategy honestly you know what f*ck it, it was rigged. Whatever honestly at this point, it’s no more absurd than the multitude of other narratives that have become fact around here Edited May 6 by Nacho Libre 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 7 minutes ago, Nacho Libre said: Lmao that’s not how it works the leafs had an *8.5% chance* to win. Why are we pretending that’s some sort of astronomical number? The cookie crumbling that way is a universal chasm of liklihood away from “ok we are going to risk our entire sport and rig the lottery” You are claiming rigged and “conspiracy” because a 1/10 chance unfolded. That sort of take requires a special level of nonsense That is literal how Occams Razor works. It's not rigged but the explanation of O.R. was spot on. 1 Quote
Nacho Libre Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: That is literal how Occams Razor works. It's not rigged but the explanation of O.R. was spot on. No, I’m saying it was applied incorrectly That was pretty clear? His implementation of occam’S razor had him land at “rigged”. Ie that’s not how it works. He demonstrably applied it incorrectly Post not poster. Again: please Edited May 6 by Nacho Libre 1 Quote
Second Line Center Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 The NBA JUST DID IT AGAIN Luka traded to the Lakers for “nothing.” Magically win first overall pick and Cooper Flagg. THAT was the rest of the trade. 1 Quote
_Q_ Posted May 6 Report Posted May 6 29 minutes ago, Nacho Libre said: If you want to tell on yourself by claiming it’s “rigged” have at it. Literally zero understanding of Occam’s razor, even just for starters I’m sorry: if anyone *legitimately* believes it’s rigged, you need to go back and complete high school - it’s an embarrassingly bad opinion the moon landing was faked-ass opinion Elections are rigged too. Quote
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