Practice Notes 5/5 Helenius with the Sabres

[Weave]

3 minutes ago, Second Line Center said:

 

 

Well, now I am overwhelmed with curiosity about the injury.

[TheAud]

59 minutes ago, darksabre said:

I think we need to ban the use of this term, it's making me insane. No one has ever said it, it's made up. 

[Second Line Center]

 

[Eleven]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/2020/06/11/hockey-nhl-black-aces-why-called-history-eddie-shore-extra-players-stanley-cup-playoffs-tlh
 

History of the term “Black Aces”

“WHY ARE THEY CALLED BLACK ACES?

The term was coined in the 1940s by former Bruin Eddie Shore when he was the owner of the AHL's Springfield Indians. Shore used the term to refer to his extra players on the roster, players who were working their way back from injury or in the doghouse. The players would have to participate in practice drills like the rest of the roster, but they would also have to do maintenance around the arena. One of Shore's extra players, Don Cherry, wrote about the Black Aces in his book "Grapes: A Vintage View of Hockey."

"Anyone who crossed Shore became a 'Black Ace,' one of the many extras he kept on the squad - but wouldn't dress for punitive purposes," Cherry wrote. "The Black Aces had to work extra hard in practice and were always available to play should any of the regulars enrage Shore even more.  In addition to scrimmaging with the team, the Black Aces were required to do odd jobs around the arena such as painting seats, selling programs, making popcorn, and blowing up hundreds of balloons before the ice shows."

The name Black Aces refers to the "dead man's hand" in poker, which includes the black aces and black eights, and is considered unlucky after Old West gunfighter Wild Bill Hickok was murdered while holding that hand in a game of poker 1876.

Since the Black Aces were mostly comprised of players who were injured or in Shore's doghouse, Shore considered them down on their luck, and compared them to the unlucky black aces in the poker hand.

Today's Black Aces aren't as unlucky, and definitely don't have to do odd jobs around the arena. They have an important job: To remain game-ready in case the opportunity presents itself to step into a Stanley Cup playoff game.”

 

This kind of makes it more stupid.  But thank you for the education!

[bob_sauve28]

 

[Doohickie]

1 hour ago, darksabre said:

I think we need to ban the use of this term, it's making me insane. No one has ever said it, it's made up. 

Okay.  Let's just call them Dark Sabres.

 

🙃

[GASabresIUFAN]

Who sits when Östlund returns?

[Porous Five Hole]

12 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Who sits when Östlund returns?

I would love to have that problem, but he’s out for the series. Who is unhealthy then is the question?

[GASabresIUFAN]

3 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I would love to have that problem, but he’s out for the series. Who is unhealthy then is the question?

Hopefully no one.  

[Doohickie]

46 minutes ago, Second Line Center said:

"He said his injury isn’t a common hockey injury."

 

He needed Tommy John Surgery.  He won't be 100% until next year, but his fastball should be 100+ mph now.

[Dude]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

Helenius has great speed and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Lindy uses him against the Habs because of that. 

That's what I'm thinking.  But we'll see.

[darksabre]

1 hour ago, Doohickie said:

Okay.  Let's just call them Dark Sabres.

 

🙃

Hey that's a great idea! 

[Wyldnwoody44]

I wonder if it was an AC separation or an elbow subluxation. Weird. Guess we won't know until after the playoffs if we even do 

[JoeSchmoe]

Provided we don't see Carrick, I'd really like to see Helenius in for Kozak. Play him maybe 7 or 8 minutes and sub in Krebs whenever we need the 4th line to really "4th line".

At the same time, you could plug him in for Krebs on the 1st line to give him a breather and/or give the Canadiens something different to worry about.

[Doohickie]

7 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

give the Canadiens something different to worry about.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lindy puts the lines through the salad shooter in MTL to make it difficult for the Habs to line match.

[Brawndo]

2 hours ago, Weave said:

Well, now I am overwhelmed with curiosity about the injury.

 

24 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

I wonder if it was an AC separation or an elbow subluxation. Weird. Guess we won't know until after the playoffs if we even do 

I would go with the latter diagnosis 

[PerreaultForever]

20 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Lindy puts the lines through the salad shooter in MTL to make it difficult for the Habs to line match.

Well they have home ice to start so no need to fix what ain't broke. You tweak if you lose a game. 

[inkman]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Who sits when Östlund returns?

Greenway or Kozak unless someone is ailing. 

[LGR4GM]

3 hours ago, inkman said:

You are preaching to the choir. I started a whole thread about the term and posters were adamant it’s been used prolifically for decades. Nonsense. Just because it’s familiar to you doesn’t mean it’s ubiquitous. 

It's also becoming very cringy very fast. 

[JoeSchmoe]

4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

It's also becoming very cringy very fast. 

This is me with the Sabres on the Warpath chant. I'm sticking with the tried and true,

LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!

[pi2000]

3 hours ago, K-9 said:

Helenius has great speed and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Lindy uses him against the Habs because of that. 

Would be a better matchup against Montreal than Greenwaste.

[Spoonman]

4 hours ago, Doohickie said:

I wonder if the gray shirts are black aces?  If so, that would mean that was Levi in net.

You’re a 

[Spoonman]

4 hours ago, Doohickie said:

I wonder if the gray shirts are black aces?  If so, that would mean that was Levi in net.

 

[Weave]

[Cheektorado]

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

 

History of the term “Black Aces.

“WHY ARE THEY CALLED BLACK ACES?

The term was coined in the 1940s by former Bruin Eddie Shore when he was the owner of the AHL's Springfield Indians.