steveoath Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 Yeah, Ruff all the way and it isn’t even close. Why no Brindamour? 2 Quote
inkman Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, BCAS Baritone said: Ruff should be unanimous 10 minutes ago, steveoath said: Yeah, Ruff all the way and it isn’t even close. Why no Brindamour? He’s not winning. The NHL never gets anything right. I don’t care if it’s writers voting. They will get it wrong. Like always. Everything with this Mickey Mouse garage league. 2 Quote
shrader Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 21 minutes ago, steveoath said: Yeah, Ruff all the way and it isn’t even close. Why no Brindamour? They finished exactly where the were supposed to. He has no shot at the award ever. It’s a regular season and the only measure of success/failure for Brindamour is the playoffs. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 Cooper is getting tiresome. Cooper fatigue is setting in. 2 Quote
inkman Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Pimlach said: Cooper is getting tiresome. Cooper fatigue is setting in. Be prepared for it to happen again 1 1 Quote
Archie Lee Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 I don't have any objection to the finalists, but it may be seen by some in the West as Eastern-bias. Quenneville, Hynes, Bednar, Tourigny, and Gulutzan, all could be in there as easily as Muse or Cooper, in my view. 1 Quote
Doohickie Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 One looks like a used car salesman, one looks like Dark Helmet version of Jeff Bezos, and only one, Lindy, looks like an actual coach. 1 1 1 Quote
shrader Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 34 minutes ago, Archie Lee said: I don't have any objection to the finalists, but it may be seen by some in the West as Eastern-bias. Quenneville, Hynes, Bednar, Tourigny, and Gulutzan, all could be in there as easily as Muse or Cooper, in my view. Bednar is where he was supposed to be with Colorado and then all the rest fall victim to how bad the west as a whole sucked this year. 1 Quote
PASabreFan Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 If Ruff had take over on Dec. 9, he's the hands down winner. But he didn't. Was he one of the worst coaches before that? These candidates don't seem to fit the classic definition of the Jack Adams. See Nolans, Ted, 1996-97. 1 1 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 I appreciate everything that Ruff has done for this franchise (for decades), but regardless of who wins the award….I hope this is Lindy’s last season as HC. I would like to see some new blood (as long as it is not Appert). The Sabres have finally broken the curse and it is time for the organization to move onward to the next level with new coaching leadership, preferably one with no previous ties to the organization. 1 1 4 Quote
Eleven Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: I appreciate everything that Ruff has done for this franchise (for decades), but regardless of who wins the award….I hope this is Lindy’s last season as HC. I would like to see some new blood (as long as it is not Appert). The Sabres have finally broken the curse and it is time for the organization to move onward to the next level with new coaching leadership, preferably one with no previous ties to the organization. Yeah, that was the consensus among a certain group of posters about 16-17 years ago (before the drought started). How did that work out? Any coaches during the drought that you'd commend? Edited May 1 by Eleven Quote
shrader Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Pimlach said: Cooper is getting tiresome. Cooper fatigue is setting in. Someone has to finish 2nd and 3rd. The voting is already done and these are the top 3. Quote
Archie Lee Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 1 hour ago, shrader said: Bednar is where he was supposed to be with Colorado and then all the rest fall victim to how bad the west as a whole sucked this year. Tampa was 2nd in the Atlantic last year with 102 points. This year 2nd with 106. Colorado was 3rd in the Central last year, tied with Tampa for 7th overall, with 102 points. This year they are 1st overall with 121 points. Was Colorado the runaway favorite for the President's trophy this year? Was Tampa projected to fall significantly in the standings? Quote
shrader Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Archie Lee said: Tampa was 2nd in the Atlantic last year with 102 points. This year 2nd with 106. Colorado was 3rd in the Central last year, tied with Tampa for 7th overall, with 102 points. This year they are 1st overall with 121 points. Was Colorado the runaway favorite for the President's trophy this year? Was Tampa projected to fall significantly in the standings? With that team, yes, Colorado is expected to be right at the top of the league. We've seen it over the years, that's never going to be the guy that wins this award. I've quit looking after going back about 10 years. As for Cooper, I'd imagine many people thought Tampa was a bubble team at the start of the year. Then they were way up prior to the Olympics and he was the early favorite for the award, particularly because he never won it before. Some of that lingers after he's overtaken by Ruff. But like I said, someone has to finish second place. Edited May 1 by shrader Quote
Pimlach Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 (edited) 5 hours ago, PASabreFan said: If Ruff had take over on Dec. 9, he's the hands down winner. But he didn't. Was he one of the worst coaches before that? These candidates don't seem to fit the classic definition of the Jack Adams. See Nolans, Ted, 1996-97. Why was he a worse coach prior to Dec 8? Are you saying that coaching results are instantaneous? Edited May 1 by Pimlach Quote
Sabre The Cup Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 What’s with the Cooper talk? Even ESPN mentions him first in their article. Was this pre-determined months ago and now voters don’t want to change their opinion? Quote
Taro T Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 2 hours ago, shrader said: Bednar is where he was supposed to be with Colorado and then all the rest fall victim to how bad the west as a whole sucked this year. Would be very surprised if Quenneville ever wins a leaguewide award. There'd be reminders about his history brought up and the league doesn't want to do that. 2 Quote
Trettioåtta Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 Would be funny if Cooper won, despite finishing lower than Ruff's team and having a higher-end roster. Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 Oh, when is the GM of year award voting?? That's the one that should be interesting Quote
Nacho Libre Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 3 hours ago, PASabreFan said: If Ruff had take over on Dec. 9, he's the hands down winner. But he didn't. Was he one of the worst coaches before that? These candidates don't seem to fit the classic definition of the Jack Adams. See Nolans, Ted, 1996-97. Bold is true Still, he deserves to win as is. Easily, imo 1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said: Oh, when is the GM of year award voting?? That's the one that should be interesting In what way Quote
TageMVP Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 I dont understand Cooper being nominated, his teams are good every year. Any coach could get reults out of a team that talented. Pass I dont get the Pittsburgh nomination. They won 7 more games than last year, big deal, and he has Crosby. Pass Ruff nomination is fine but I dont care if he wins it or not Ill put up some other nominees Tocchet Utah coach Honestly, Marco Sturm. The Bruins were worse than the Sabres last year and were picked by many analysts to continue to slide Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 53 minutes ago, Nacho Libre said: In what way Oh, I don't know. Just wondering if the award will actually go to the GM who built the best team. Quote
triumph_communes Posted May 1 Report Posted May 1 40 minutes ago, TageMVP said: I dont understand Cooper being nominated, his teams are good every year. Any coach could get reults out of a team that talented. Pass I dont get the Pittsburgh nomination. They won 7 more games than last year, big deal, and he has Crosby. Pass Ruff nomination is fine but I dont care if he wins it or not Ill put up some other nominees Tocchet Utah coach Honestly, Marco Sturm. The Bruins were worse than the Sabres last year and were picked by many analysts to continue to slide Bruins played well despite having a total terrible roster. I agree. They don’t win convincingly but they acquired far more than expected 1 Quote
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