PASabreFan Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 Gamesmanship? Ruff did talk about how effective the rotation was during the regular season. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 That's who I'd start. Wasn't Lyon the better road goalie this year? (Can't locate those home/road splits for Lyon and UPL, but I think that's right...) 4 Quote
Scottysabres Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 Do ya think Lindy? That’s a no-brainer all day long. And while your at it, fix the damn power play. 5 1 1 Quote
#freejame Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 I would have brought Lyon out for the third to start. There was a play in the first period of game one where UPL dropped/lost his stick and tried to play a puck coming from behind the net with his blocker and missed it. It should have been a Boston goal. I lost all confidence in him in that moment. Yes, he come up big on some saves. Every goalie does. He’s also been sloppy. It’s not acceptable. 4 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 If he doesn’t start Lyon he should be canned immediately Lyon is the reason for our turnaround. Not UPL. UPL was the only reason we lost a game during that streak. He can play okay but his bad is BAD 2 1 Quote
GHOST OF KEVYN ADAMS Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 There is no maybe. UPL has been hot garbage. Don't wait until it's 3-1. 2 1 Quote
Sabre The Cup Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 He started strong and then got in his own head. Bring the vet in until UPL gets his brain right. 2 2 Quote
Ctaeth Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 We need october-march lyon, not march-april lyon. 3 Quote
mansquito Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 15 minutes ago, Sabre The Cup said: He started strong and then got in his own head. Bring the vet in until UPL gets his brain right. If we have to worry about him being mentally prepared, he's clearly not the type of goaltender that is going to take us where we want to go! I would only play him again if Lyon severely falters! 1 1 Quote
Sabre The Cup Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 16 minutes ago, mansquito said: If we have to worry about him being mentally prepared, he's clearly not the type of goaltender that is going to take us where we want to go! I would only play him again if Lyon severely falters! We need to worry about every goalie going into a mental slump. It’s his first playoffs and he’s been sharing duties all year until a recent hot streak. Do what worked all year and use both goalies. 3 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 2 hours ago, triumph_communes said: If he doesn’t start Lyon he should be canned immediately Lyon is the reason for our turnaround. Not UPL. UPL was the only reason we lost a game during that streak. He can play okay but his bad is BAD NEVER trust LIndy to make the right decisions regarding the lineup. 1 1 2 Quote
#freejame Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: NEVER trust LIndy to make the right decisions regarding the lineup. There’s a reason no other team or fanbase has ever clamored for Lindy Ruff to be their head coach. Edited April 22 by #freejame 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 38 minutes ago, Sabre The Cup said: We need to worry about every goalie going into a mental slump. It’s his first playoffs and he’s been sharing duties all year until a recent hot streak. Do what worked all year and use both goalies. UPL has always been a head case. His road record has been absolutely atrocious. His play at home has been his only saving grace. But he’s not bringing that to these home games; he sure as hell doesn’t deserve a minute in a road game. Lyon was great all season except for that one game at the end of the season. Which is why I could understand keeping UPL as a starter to get it started. But UPL failed and coddle time is over. We have options for goalie outside of him next season Quote
Sabre The Cup Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said: NEVER trust LIndy to make the right decisions regarding the lineup. 41 minutes ago, #freejame said: There’s a reason no other team or fanbase has ever clamored for Lindy Ruff to be their head coach. Let's not be ungrateful for what happened this season. Lindy's done a great job, and we should give him a shot to correct. He's won plenty of playoff series. More than can be said for a lot of coaches. 1 1 1 Quote
#freejame Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 Just now, Sabre The Cup said: Let's not be ungrateful for what happened this season. Lindy's done a great job, and we should give him a shot to correct. He's won plenty of playoff series. More than can be said for a lot of coaches. I’ve consistently banged this drum on Lindy for a decade plus and have withheld a lot of criticism throughout the back half of this season because of the success we’ve had. The issues with Lindy are the same issues Lindy has always had. To include, allegedly (doubtful from me but whatever), why the team started so poorly. Like you said, he’s got time to correct. Hopefully he can do it and hopefully the players listen. Again, I don’t think we should lose this series. But changes have to be made. 1 Quote
Gatorman0519 Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 When you are having goaltending issues by game 2, you are toast. The playoffs show no mercy. Thats what did Edmonton in with a loaded forward roster. Whoever is in game 3 has to step up or this is over. 2 1 Quote
Taro T Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 Personally, am expecting him to come back with UPL. But am hoping he comes back with Lyon. The Canes rode to a SC on their opponents suffering major injuries each round and on having one of their 2 goailes playing well any particular game even when the other was hot garbage. Would give Lyon the start just like Gerber got a few starts that year while letting UPL clear his head like Ward did. But expect Ruff will give UPL the start and expect the B's fans will be merciless on him. And as he isn't as experienced as Swayman is and he does have instances in the past (including yesterday) when he's gotten into his own head, could see him having issues getting the start. (And yeah, that's superficially the opposite of what had been said in the Swayman chant thread; but the difference is experience and also whether the goalie is already dialed in or not. When he's already dialed in, it helps him stay focused. My 2 cents on that.) So, personally don't expect Lyon to get rattled in Boston, but expect UPL could. But if Lyon falters, expect coming in in relief could let UPL get back into his "happy space." And then would 100% come back with UPL in the next game. 2 Quote
BMWR100RT Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 How many of you flashed to little league coach screaming "get your body in front of the ball, don't let it get behind you." 1 1 2 Quote
Forecheck Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 (edited) If I was the head coach I’d definitely switch to Lyon for game 3. With Lindy it’s probably a 50/50 call at best. My gut tells me Lindy sticks with UPL for game 3 with a very short leash. I wouldn’t. Edited April 22 by Forecheck 1 1 Quote
Popular Post Mango Posted April 22 Popular Post Report Posted April 22 (edited) Lyon chirping "Yo wann go?!" at Jeannot as soon as he comes in the game. Gotta be Lyon. I don't think Boston is getting in his head. 7 minutes ago, Taro T said: Personally, am expecting him to come back with UPL. But am hoping he comes back with Lyon. The Canes rode to a SC on their opponents suffering major injuries each round and on having one of their 2 goailes playing well any particular game even when the other was hot garbage. Would give Lyon the start just like Gerber got a few starts that year while letting UPL clear his head like Ward did. But expect Ruff will give UPL the start and expect the B's fans will be merciless on him. And as he isn't as experienced as Swayman is and he does have instances in the past (including yesterday) when he's gotten into his own head, could see him having issues getting the start. (And yeah, that's superficially the opposite of what had been said in the Swayman chant thread; but the difference is experience and also whether the goalie is already dialed in or not. When he's already dialed in, it helps him stay focused. My 2 cents on that.) So, personally don't expect Lyon to get rattled in Boston, but expect UPL could. But if Lyon falters, expect coming in in relief could let UPL get back into his "happy space." And then would 100% come back with UPL in the next game. Edited April 22 by Mango 2 2 7 Quote
#freejame Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, BMWR100RT said: How many of you flashed to little league coach screaming "get your body in front of the ball, don't let it get behind you." 9 seasons of coaching ten year olds. I was fuming. 2 1 1 Quote
PASabreFan Posted April 22 Author Report Posted April 22 Ruff hinted in the postgame he put Lyon in to get him some playing time. The reason would appear to be obvious. We shall see! 2 Quote
Long Suffering Fan Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 In the GDT for game 1, I said that I was not ragging on UPL, but that he had trouble tracking the puck that game and some people disagreed. However, it happened enough times to make me worried. The most obvious one was the open net he left on the powerplay when he didn't see that it was passed to his right, but there were several other times where he was just slow to pick up the puck after a pass, a block, or a post. including both goals. I was hoping that was just game 1 nerves. When he was shaky last night, I became concerned because, from my perspective, this is now 2 games in a row where he has not been quite right. 3 Quote
Eleven Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 5 hours ago, triumph_communes said: Lyon is the reason for our turnaround. Not UPL. I think a lot of people forget this or choose to ignore it. 15 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: The reason would appear to be obvious. Showcasing him for a trade! /s if necessary. 1 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 9 hours ago, PASabreFan said: Gamesmanship? Ruff did talk about how effective the rotation was during the regular season. Not gamesmanship, survival. Lyon has been the veteran calming force and this team needs that right now. I ride Lyon until there are no games left to play or until he shows he can't do it either. UPL looked mentally shot, he was not tracking the puck. 1 6 2 Quote
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