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That's a good sign for a deep playoff run. While the Sabres don't have any of the high-end 100 point players, but they've got the most scoring depth in the league. That's going to be huge come playoff time when the teams are focused on shutting down Thompson. Go ahead and shadow him, we've got 2 other lines to run you over with.

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Also Östlund with 27 in 60 and Norris with 32 in 42.

Like I said in another thread, the depth is real and significant.

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This reminds me of the banana slug Lindy teams that rolled 4 solid lines that could all skate and produce offense and were almost impossible to stop because of it.  As we all know (at least the elders of us), the 20025-06 team from that era probably would have won the Stanley Cup if not for the devastating rash of injuries on defense during the playoffs.  The current team, with Metsa, Stanley, Kesselring, Timmins, and Schenn (and even Ryan Johnson and Zac Jones in Rochester but with NHL experience) all available for the third defensive pairing, should not have that issue.

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16 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

This reminds me of the banana slug Lindy teams that rolled 4 solid lines that could all skate and produce offense and were almost impossible to stop because of it.  As we all know (at least the elders of us), the 20025-06 team from that era probably would have won the Stanley Cup if not for the devastating rash of injuries on defense during the playoffs.  The current team, with Metsa, Stanley, Kesselring, Timmins, and Schenn (and even Ryan Johnson and Zac Jones in Rochester but with NHL experience) all available for the third defensive pairing, should not have that issue.

That defensive corps had the worst case of bad juju ever... I mean, McKee hospitalized with a staph infection in his leg was the ultimate sign that Buffalo sports is cursed.

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1 hour ago, Mustache of God said:

That's a good sign for a deep playoff run. While the Sabres don't have any of the high-end 100 point players, but they've got the most scoring depth in the league. That's going to be huge come playoff time when the teams are focused on shutting down Thompson. Go ahead and shadow him, we've got 2 other lines to run you over with.

It might be. Certainly would help in the case of injuries.

Edmonton and Florida have been the 2 best teams in the playoffs last year, and they are/were both top heavy. Edmonton only had 5 guys with over 40 points, Florida had only 6.

I could see this going both ways.

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Anyone remember that WGR550 caller in 2006 or 2007 who made a legitimately good send-up of Johnny Cash's "I Walk the Line," but instead it was Lindy Ruff giving his perspective through "I Roll Four Lines"?

So good.

It's a slightly different team, of course, but, even so, we are back to the future.

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If this team can get to 11 players with 40+ they’d match the 05/06 team with 11.

05/06 had 6 guys with 20 plus goals and 11 with 10+.
 

This team has 5 guys with 20+ Dahlin can make it 6 with one more goal.  This team also has 13 players with 10+

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1 hour ago, msw2112 said:

This reminds me of the banana slug Lindy teams that rolled 4 solid lines that could all skate and produce offense and were almost impossible to stop because of it.  As we all know (at least the elders of us), the 20025-06 team from that era probably would have won the Stanley Cup if not for the devastating rash of injuries on defense during the playoffs.  The current team, with Metsa, Stanley, Kesselring, Timmins, and Schenn (and even Ryan Johnson and Zac Jones in Rochester but with NHL experience) all available for the third defensive pairing, should not have that issue.

Crazy part was they took a 2-1 lead into the 3rd in Carolina in Game 7 even with all those injuries and just couldn't hold on.

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10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

If this team can get to 11 players with 40+ they’d match the 05/06 team with 11.

05/06 had 6 guys with 20 plus goals and 11 with 10+.
 

This team has 5 guys with 20+ Dahlin can make it 6 with one more goal.  This team also has 13 players with 10+

This is why I try not to over react when forward goes on a slump. This team overcomes it. 

All that mid season Quinn? 20 goals and 50 points later...

This deep is stupid deep

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1 hour ago, transient said:

That defensive corps had the worst case of bad juju ever... I mean, McKee hospitalized with a staph infection in his leg was the ultimate sign that Buffalo sports is cursed.

 

That and was it Meyers who got the very first delay of game penalties for putting the puck out of play?

 

But old folks will remember the pivotal moment:

 

Buffalo Sabres defenseman Brian Campbell received a crucial delay of game penalty in Game 7 of the 2006 Eastern Conference Finals against the Carolina Hurricanes. Campbell flipped the puck over the glass in his own zone, leading to a power-play goal by Rod Brind'Amour that gave the Hurricanes a 3-2 lead

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People talk about belonging in certain roster slots: "he's a good 2nd-liner" and such.

Speaking purely statistically, there are 32 1st-liners, 32 2nd-liners, etc.

Here are where various Sabres rank, strictly based on even strength points production:

CENTRE

  • 1st Line (42-96 points): Thompson (10th)
  • 2nd Line (32-42): McLeod (38) Krebs (47)*
  • 3rd Line (26-32): nobody
  • 4th Line (20-26): Norris (111) Östlund (124)*

RIGHT WING

  • 1st Line (36-90): Tuch (12) Quinn (25)
  • 2nd Line (22-26) Doan  (41)
  • 3rd Line (8-22) nobody
  • 4th Line (1-8) nobody

LEFT WING

  • 1st Line (34-68): nobody
  • 2nd Line (21-34): Benson (33) Zucker (43)
  • 3rd Line (11-21): Malenstyn (88)
  • 4th Line (3-11) Greenway (114)

DEFENCE

  • 1st Pair (24-58 points): Dahlin (4),  Samuelsson (16), Byram (23)
  • 2nd Pair (15-24): Stanley (66) Power (72)
  • 3rd Pair (8-15): Timmins (186)

* NHL.com lists a number of players at centre who have predominantly played the wing. For the Sabres, that includes Krebs and Östlund. Krebs 38 ES points would rank him as a 1st-liner, 24 among NHL LWs, Östlund's 21 would rank him 65, or a very good 3rd liner.

Krebs is a reminder of how public perception of what a top 6 player is fails to match reality, at least when people are talking about ES production. His peers include centres Dylan Strome, Matty Beniers, Brayden Point, Vincent Trochek and Joel Erickson Ek, and wingers Brady Tkachuk, Zach Hyman, Tyler Bertuzzi, Bryan Rust and Patrick Kane.

They also include Jack Quinn, who is a frequent candidate for benching around here, despite being the NHL's 25th highest scoring ES RW.

Also, the Sabres have 8 top 6 forwards in terms of ES production. A healthy Norris probably makes that 9.

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8 minutes ago, dudacek said:

People talk about belonging in certain roster slots: "he's a good 2nd-liner" and such.

Speaking purely statistically, there are 32 1st-liners, 32 2nd-liners, etc.

Here are where various Sabres rank, strictly based on even strength points production:

CENTRE

  • 1st Line (42-96 points): Thompson (10th)
  • 2nd Line (32-42): McLeod (38) Krebs (47)*
  • 3rd Line (26-32): nobody
  • 4th Line (20-26): Norris (111) Östlund (124)*

RIGHT WING

  • 1st Line (36-90): Tuch (12) Quinn (25)
  • 2nd Line (22-26) Doan 
  • 3rd Line (8-22) nobody
  • 4th Line (1-8) nobody)

LEFT WING

  • 1st Line (34-68): nobody
  • 2nd Line (21-34): Benson (33) Zucker (43)
  • 3rd Line (11-21): Malenstyn (88)
  • 4th Line (3-11) Greenway (114)

DEFENCE

  • 1st Pair (24-58 points): Dahlin (4),  Samuelsson (16), Byram (23)
  • 2nd Pair (15-24): Stanley (66) Power (72)
  • 3rd Pair (8-15): Timmins (186)

* NHL.com lists a number of players at centre who have predominantly play the wing. For the Sabres, that includes Krebs and Östlund. Krebs 38 ES points would rank him as a 1st-liner, 24 among NHL LWs, Östlund's 21 would rank him 65, or a very good 2nd liner.

Krebs is a reminder of how public perception of what a top 6 player is fails to match reality, at least when people are talking about ES production. His peers include centres Dylan Strome, Matty Beniers, Brayden Point, Vincent Trochek and Joel Erickson Ek, and wingers Brady Tkachuk, Zach Hyman, Tyler Bertuzzi, Bryan Rust and Patrick Kane.

They also include Jack Quinn, who is a frequent candidate for benching around here, despite being the NHL's 25th highest scoring ES RW.

Quinn has an absolutely elite shot and can be really streaky...if he finds a little more consistency, he could be a 70-80 point player.

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6 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

Anyone remember that WGR550 caller in 2006 or 2007 who made a legitimately good send-up of Johnny Cash's "I Walk the Line," but instead it was Lindy Ruff giving his perspective through "I Roll Four Lines"?

So good.

It's a slightly different team, of course, but, even so, we are back to the future.

This was my attempt at getting a song made…

Sabres Blitz

Are you finally ready, Tim? Aha.
Henrik? Yeah! Hecht? OK.
Alright, fellas, let's go!

Oh we've been skating so hard
Chasing elusive Lord Stanley....
Oh our cup dreams are so close
Led by our co-captain Chris Drury
Oh, we have Spacek at the point
Campbell's spinning through the joint, his hair as red as the sun
And Zubie's in the corner feeding Roy a one-timer
Danny thinks he's the underpaid one

Oh MAAAAX was like lightning, Kotalik's shot was frightening
HSBC was roaring, as they all started scoring

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And Lindy at the back said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Sabres blitz
And RJ in the booth said
Boy, I speak the truth, it'll turn into a Sabres blitz
Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz

Pominville you cannot stop
Lydman is bearing down on you
Oh, Mair will work you over
When Gausted hits there's nothing left of you, aha
Now with Miller in the net
Your team will regret as he raises his glove to the sky
When Vanek picks the corner your goalie is a mourner
He'll score on you in a blink of an eye

Oh yeah, Drew was electric, as he goes for the hat trick
And no one was leaving, 'cause we won't stop believing

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And Lindy at the back said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Sabres blitz
And RJ in the booth said
Boy, I speak the truth, it'll turn into a Sabres blitz
Sabres blitz...

Oh MAAAAX was like lightning, Kotalik's shot was frightening
HSBC was roaring, as they all started scoring

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And Lindy at the back said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Sabres blitz
And RJ in the booth said
Boy, I speak the truth, it'll turn into a Sabres blitz
Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz

It's it's a Sabres blitz, it's it's a Sabres blitz
It's it's a Sabres blitz, yeah, it's a Sabres blitz

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Nice!

7 hours ago, SDS said:

This was my attempt at getting a song made…

Sabres Blitz

Are you finally ready, Tim? Aha.
Henrik? Yeah! Hecht? OK.
Alright, fellas, let's go!

Oh we've been skating so hard
Chasing elusive Lord Stanley....
Oh our cup dreams are so close
Led by our co-captain Chris Drury
Oh, we have Spacek at the point
Campbell's spinning through the joint, his hair as red as the sun
And Zubie's in the corner feeding Roy a one-timer
Danny thinks he's the underpaid one

Oh MAAAAX was like lightning, Kotalik's shot was frightening
HSBC was roaring, as they all started scoring

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And Lindy at the back said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Sabres blitz
And RJ in the booth said
Boy, I speak the truth, it'll turn into a Sabres blitz
Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz

Pominville you cannot stop
Lydman is bearing down on you
Oh, Mair will work you over
When Gausted hits there's nothing left of you, aha
Now with Miller in the net
Your team will regret as he raises his glove to the sky
When Vanek picks the corner your goalie is a mourner
He'll score on you in a blink of an eye

Oh yeah, Drew was electric, as he goes for the hat trick
And no one was leaving, 'cause we won't stop believing

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And Lindy at the back said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Sabres blitz
And RJ in the booth said
Boy, I speak the truth, it'll turn into a Sabres blitz
Sabres blitz...

Oh MAAAAX was like lightning, Kotalik's shot was frightening
HSBC was roaring, as they all started scoring

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
And Lindy at the back said
Everyone attack and it turned into a Sabres blitz
And RJ in the booth said
Boy, I speak the truth, it'll turn into a Sabres blitz
Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz, Sabres blitz

It's it's a Sabres blitz, it's it's a Sabres blitz
It's it's a Sabres blitz, yeah, it's a Sabres blitz

Haha - very nice.

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9 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Nice!

Haha - very nice.

Supposedly, I had the guy who sang the Buffalo version of the immigrant song sing this, but I could never get the guy who recorded him to get it mixed. He claimed it was done, but then he disappeared on me. I don’t remember if it was the singer directly or somebody affiliated with him.

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12 hours ago, dudacek said:

People talk about belonging in certain roster slots: "he's a good 2nd-liner" and such.

Speaking purely statistically, there are 32 1st-liners, 32 2nd-liners, etc.

Here are where various Sabres rank, strictly based on even strength points production:

CENTRE

  • 1st Line (42-96 points): Thompson (10th)
  • 2nd Line (32-42): McLeod (38) Krebs (47)*
  • 3rd Line (26-32): nobody
  • 4th Line (20-26): Norris (111) Östlund (124)*

RIGHT WING

  • 1st Line (36-90): Tuch (12) Quinn (25)
  • 2nd Line (22-26) Doan  (41)
  • 3rd Line (8-22) nobody
  • 4th Line (1-8) nobody

LEFT WING

  • 1st Line (34-68): nobody
  • 2nd Line (21-34): Benson (33) Zucker (43)
  • 3rd Line (11-21): Malenstyn (88)
  • 4th Line (3-11) Greenway (114)

DEFENCE

  • 1st Pair (24-58 points): Dahlin (4),  Samuelsson (16), Byram (23)
  • 2nd Pair (15-24): Stanley (66) Power (72)
  • 3rd Pair (8-15): Timmins (186)

* NHL.com lists a number of players at centre who have predominantly played the wing. For the Sabres, that includes Krebs and Östlund. Krebs 38 ES points would rank him as a 1st-liner, 24 among NHL LWs, Östlund's 21 would rank him 65, or a very good 3rd liner.

Krebs is a reminder of how public perception of what a top 6 player is fails to match reality, at least when people are talking about ES production. His peers include centres Dylan Strome, Matty Beniers, Brayden Point, Vincent Trochek and Joel Erickson Ek, and wingers Brady Tkachuk, Zach Hyman, Tyler Bertuzzi, Bryan Rust and Patrick Kane.

They also include Jack Quinn, who is a frequent candidate for benching around here, despite being the NHL's 25th highest scoring ES RW.

Also, the Sabres have 8 top 6 forwards in terms of ES production. A healthy Norris probably makes that 9.

Krebs is a LW. Sure he can play center but he's almost exclusively playing lw these days and it's where he generates points from. 

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