Taro T Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 22 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Which is, until Carrick &/or Östlund are available again how they most likely will line up in the playoffs. Hoping Ruff runs with those lines and pairings in both these last 2 games. Make sure everybody is as close to on the same page as you can get. If they face Tampa, could see Dunne in in place of Kozak, but doubt they'd go with Schenn more than a game even if they are the matchup. And even if they play the Habs or Otters, would be mildly surprised if Kesselring or Timmins drew in unless we're getting late in the series and things aren't working as planned. 1 Quote
EM88 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) I have mixed feelings about the Zucker-McLeod-Quinn line. More so than most lines, their performance is extreme. When they are good, they are very good. But when they are bad, they are so bad they can cost you a game. I would like to see them play with more consistency game to game and week to week if they are staying together. Edited April 12 by EM88 Quote
dudacek Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) Anything out there on the power play? Tuch’s interview yesterday indicated he’s back on PP1, but I haven’t heard for who, or if there were any other shifts. Edited April 12 by dudacek Quote
Nacho Libre Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: Anything out there on the power play? Tuch’s interview yesterday indicated he’s back on PP1, but I haven’t heard for who, or if there were any other shifts. Appert’s working on it as we speak 5 1 Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 hour ago, EM88 said: I have mixed feelings about the Zucker-McLeod-Quinn line. More so than most lines, their performance is extreme. When they are good, they are very good. But when they are bad, they are so bad they can cost you a game. I would like to see them play with more consistency game to game and week to week if they are staying together. What game you talking about? 1 Quote
Doohickie Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 hour ago, dudacek said: Anything out there on the power play? Tuch’s interview yesterday indicated he’s back on PP1, but I haven’t heard for who, or if there were any other shifts. Yes, at Sabres.com: I for one like Quinn at the top of the zone. 1 1 3 Quote
dudacek Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 Just now, Doohickie said: Yes, at Sabres.com: Thank you. So they’re basically setting Dahlin up along the right half-wall deciding which rightie to feed while Zucker does his net-front thing? Well, at least it’s different, although you can almost guarantee Quinn will fumble a puck at the top of the umbrella leading to a shortie. 2 Quote
Doohickie Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dudacek said: you can almost guarantee Quinn will fumble a puck at the top of the umbrella leading to a shortie. The last power play goal he scored was precisely the opposite situation. Things started to break down so he backed out of the zone. The Sabres recovered and slid it across to the point he'd vacated so he came with speed as he skated back into the zone and scored on the shot. He scored that goal precisely because he was defensively responsible on the power play. Edited April 12 by Doohickie 1 Quote
Taro T Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 12 minutes ago, dudacek said: Thank you. So they’re basically setting Dahlin up along the right half-wall deciding which rightie to feed while Zucker does his net-front thing? Well, at least it’s different, although you can almost guarantee Quinn will fumble a puck at the top of the umbrella leading to a shortie. But Quinn is MUCH better at passing towards the other team's net than passing back towards his own. So this may be a realization of that fact. And as you state it also may be an attempt give Dahlin an easier one time pass to Thompson while also giving him 2 other options (Tuch and Zucker) to pass to so the goalie won't automatically be able to cover Tage as soon as he sees the puck leave Ras' stick. Would still rather they just rip the bandaid off, give Appert something else to do like help the equipment guys make sure everyone that needs a towel to wipe their visor has one, rather than try to design a functional PP against NHL caliber defenders. And give the job to just about anyone else not named Ellis nor Appert. 1 1 Quote
ska-T Chitown Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 2 hours ago, EM88 said: I have mixed feelings about the Zucker-McLeod-Quinn line. More so than most lines, their performance is extreme. When they are good, they are very good. But when they are bad, they are so bad they can cost you a game. I would like to see them play with more consistency game to game and week to week if they are staying together. ^^I don't feel like this is rooted in any recent performance or facts. I will continue to view this as 100% nonsense until otherwise proven wrong. 1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said: What game you talking about? 👆This guy gets it. Quote
PASabreFan Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, ska-T Chitown said: ^^I don't feel like this is rooted in any recent performance or facts. I will continue to view this as 100% nonsense until otherwise proven wrong. 👆This guy gets it. Of course Bobby O gets it. He takes pleasure from the Canadiens and gives it to the ladies. 1 Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 23 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Of course Bobby O gets it. He takes pleasure from the Canadiens and gives it to the ladies. Whatever that means! LOL 1 Quote
PASabreFan Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 40 minutes ago, Nacho Libre said: Did Tage get banned? Lmao dear lord Of course. She ain't playin'. There goes our first Cup. 1 3 Quote
EM88 Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said: What game you talking about? 58 minutes ago, ska-T Chitown said: ^^I don't feel like this is rooted in any recent performance or facts. I will continue to view this as 100% nonsense until otherwise proven wrong. 2 standout games in the past month that I remember are below, with some statistics that I just looked up. Against the Capitals that line was outshot, out chanced, did not scored and were scored upon. Watching that game they did very little positive. They were a combined -7. Similar in the loss to the Bruins.. I think they were outshot 6 or 7 to 1 when they were together even strength and were a -5 combined on the night. Zucker scored, but that was on the PP with different guys on the ice at the time. I know there are more games if you go farther back beyond a month, but I do not remember the details of them off the top of my head. Quote
ska-T Chitown Posted April 12 Report Posted April 12 3 hours ago, EM88 said: 2 standout games in the past month that I remember are below, with some statistics that I just looked up. Against the Capitals that line was outshot, out chanced, did not scored and were scored upon. Watching that game they did very little positive. They were a combined -7. Similar in the loss to the Bruins.. I think they were outshot 6 or 7 to 1 when they were together even strength and were a -5 combined on the night. Zucker scored, but that was on the PP with different guys on the ice at the time. I know there are more games if you go farther back beyond a month, but I do not remember the details of them off the top of my head. Fake news! Sorta ... That Caps game was a disaster - Tage, Quinn, Benson, Doan, McLeod, Byram, Metsa, Power, Stanley - all at least -2 for the game. It was an all-around putrid effort and trying to single out one line is sorta disingenuous. Bruins game - only McLeod (-3, yuck!), Tuch (-2), and Dahlin (-3, also yuck!) were less than -1. Zucker had 2 goals. That line must not have been intact for the whole game, if Quinn and Zucker were only -1? Zucker with two PP goals (which do not count in +/-), so he was only on the ice for 1 against (but two for on the PP). 3 hours ago, PASabreFan said: Of course. She ain't playin'. There goes our first Cup. #FreeTageMVP!!!! 1 Quote
bg17 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 1 hour ago, ska-T Chitown said: #FreeTageMVP!!!! No 1 Quote
SDS Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 5 hours ago, PASabreFan said: Of course. She ain't playin'. There goes our first Cup. I am the only person who has the ability to place restrictions on a member. 1 Quote
Doohickie Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 1 hour ago, SDS said: I am the only person who has the ability to place restrictions on a member. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 17 hours ago, Nacho Libre said: Did Tage get banned? Lmao dear lord Probably just got tired of posting under two separate accounts. 2 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 19 hours ago, dudacek said: Thank you. So they’re basically setting Dahlin up along the right half-wall deciding which rightie to feed while Zucker does his net-front thing? Well, at least it’s different, although you can almost guarantee Quinn will fumble a puck at the top of the umbrella leading to a shortie. I immediately thought of that. Or that he just can’t get back quickly enough. Quote
EM88 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 (edited) 17 hours ago, ska-T Chitown said: Fake news! Sorta ... That Caps game was a disaster - Tage, Quinn, Benson, Doan, McLeod, Byram, Metsa, Power, Stanley - all at least -2 for the game. It was an all-around putrid effort and trying to single out one line is sorta disingenuous. Bruins game - only McLeod (-3, yuck!), Tuch (-2), and Dahlin (-3, also yuck!) were less than -1. Zucker had 2 goals. That line must not have been intact for the whole game, if Quinn and Zucker were only -1? Zucker with two PP goals (which do not count in +/-), so he was only on the ice for 1 against (but two for on the PP). #FreeTageMVP!!!! Not fake news at all, just an opinion I have with some statistics to back it up at times. I was asked to bring up what games recently that line was bad, and I supplied 2. If you go back farther, there are more than that. Just because all of those guys in the Caps game were negative, it does not negate the bad play of the Zucker-Quinn-McLeod line. In many games you can squeek out a win vs an inferior team if just one or 2 lines plays well when everyone else plays poorly. The line played poorly, that contributed to the loss. What happened when they were not on the ice had little to do with them. In terms of the Bruins game, The Mcleod-Quinn-Zucker line was not only intact for the entire game, they had more ice time than any other line combo. And I am saying that line was awful from what I saw. I did not look up the stats to form my opinion. I remember that line looking terrible, and the stats were simply used to back up that opinion. I am not, nor have I said they are a bad line. They also have very good games, and on the whole I think currently they probably fit the best with each other. It is just when they have a bad game, to me that game is very bad. Edited April 13 by EM88 Quote
TageMVP Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 3 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: Probably just got tired of posting under two separate accounts. Thats it I'm posting all of our direct messages I'm outing all your other accounts you goofball 1 Quote
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