Mustache of God Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 I don't follow the league closely enough to know who his competition would be, but with this teams turnaround, I'm hard pressed to think there's anyone else in consideration. Maybe the coach of the ducks? 1 Quote
Big Guava Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 If he doesn't someone should question the voters. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 Assuming the Buffalo Sabres do make the playoffs I would say Ruff is a top candidate. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 His chances improved last night with the demolition of TB and their Jack Adams candidate John Cooper. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 What other coach has a better resume this year? Quote
Big Guava Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: His chances improved last night with the demolition of TB and their Jack Adams candidate John Cooper. I don't see why Cooper would get it when that team has been very good for a decade. That's what is expected. The last time they finished with less than 98 points in a full season was 2016-2017. He should have zero chance of winning that award. Same reason McDermott never won it with the Bills after he didn't get it the first season...after a while, 12 wins was pretty much expected. Edited March 1 by Big Guava Quote
HumanSlinky39 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 (edited) Barring a total collapse, the award is a joke if he doesn't. And I'll take my crow cajun-style because I was dead wrong calling for him to be fired. Edited March 1 by HumanSlinky39 2 1 Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 If Damar Hamlin legit dies and then comes back and doesn't comeback player of the year. I have no faith in any award moving forward. 1 1 Quote
Big Guava Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 (edited) Ruff is the betting favorite at DraftKings as of today at +175(Cooper +245). He is also the current leader on Kalshi at 57%(Cooper 54%) and Polymarket at 47%(Cooper 46%). Edited March 1 by Big Guava Quote
shrader Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 48 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: If Damar Hamlin legit dies and then comes back and doesn't comeback player of the year. I have no faith in any award moving forward. A clone is technically a different person, so it wasn’t a comeback. 1 1 2 Quote
pastajoe Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Big Guava said: I don't see why Cooper would get it when that team has been very good for a decade. That's what is expected. The last time they finished with less than 98 points in a full season was 2016-2017. He should have zero chance of winning that award. Same reason McDermott never won it with the Bills after he didn't get it the first season...after a while, 12 wins was pretty much expected. Cooper has never won the award despite being a contending team for years and Stanley Cup champions. If they finish in 1st he should win in a year when most thought Tampa would take a step back. And they’ve done it with multiple injuries. The other option is Quenneville in Anaheim. Who had them rebuilding so quick to pass Edmonton in the standings. So if the season ended now the finalists should be Cooper, Ruff, and Quinneville, with Cooper finally winning. 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 (edited) Sabres were last in the Eastern Conference in early December and have added no one from outside the organization to the roster. It should be Ruff barring a complete collapse down the stretch. Edited March 1 by Flashsabre 2 Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 3 hours ago, shrader said: A clone is technically a different person, so it wasn’t a comeback. 1 Quote
Big Guava Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, pastajoe said: Cooper has never won the award despite being a contending team for years and Stanley Cup champions. If they finish in 1st he should win in a year when most thought Tampa would take a step back. And they’ve done it with multiple injuries. The other option is Quenneville in Anaheim. Who had them rebuilding so quick to pass Edmonton in the standings. So if the season ended now the finalists should be Cooper, Ruff, and Quinneville, with Cooper finally winning. No, he shouldn't. The same could have been said about McDermott a number of times, dealing with injuries, supposed to take a step back, etc and that never mattered. Cooper is a victim of his own success much like McDermott was. If he got great regular season results, that's what was expected. If they don't, then he did a bad job. Trying to equate Tampa Bay finishing first by a few points over Ruff taking a team that hasn't made the playoffs in an NHL record 14 years into the playoffs emphatically, is absurd. Ruff would win in a landslide and Cooper would probably finish second, as he should. As for injuries, Sabres could say the same thing. They were one of the most injured teams in the NHL for the first 2 months of the year. Edited March 1 by Big Guava 2 Quote
shrader Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 22 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: Ahhh come on, I love the jokes about him being cloned. Quote
Scottysabres Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 He’s got it in the bag. No, really, he’s got it in the bag……..STOP THIEF!!!! Quote
pastajoe Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Big Guava said: No, he shouldn't. The same could have been said about McDermott a number of times, dealing with injuries, supposed to take a step back, etc and that never mattered. Cooper is a victim of his own success much like McDermott was. If he got great regular season results, that's what was expected. If they don't, then he did a bad job. Trying to equate Tampa Bay finishing first by a few points over Ruff taking a team that hasn't made the playoffs in an NHL record 14 years into the playoffs emphatically, is absurd. Ruff would win in a landslide and Cooper would probably finish second, as he should. As for injuries, Sabres could say the same thing. They were one of the most injured teams in the NHL for the first 2 months of the year. Apples and oranges. McDermott was never able to take his team to the Super Bowl. Cooper’s teams have reached the playoffs 8 consecutive times and won 2 Stanley Cups. Try being objective instead of a homer. 1 1 Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 2 hours ago, shrader said: Ahhh come on, I love the jokes about him being cloned. I'm dead serious, this is the first time I've heard this lol 1 Quote
shrader Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: I'm dead serious, this is the first time I've heard this lol I think it was one of the online conspiracy theories at first, but I’ve run with it since. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 1 minute ago, shrader said: I think it was one of the online conspiracy theories at first, but I’ve run with it since. Lol nice. I can get behind that. I've heard Avril Lavigne is dead and her new persona is a clone. Outside of SS, and my Google chrome home page, I'm pretty in the ether when it comes to current events Quote
PASabreFan Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 The language is important: The coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success." That's clear as mud. It's never been, who's the best coach? It's who's done the most with the least, typically in taking a team that was down to great success. See Ted Nolans 1996-97. I think Lindy is well on his way to completing the latter, but I'd guess Buffalo is a team most of the voters would see as a talented group that could never get over the hump. Jarmo himself said talent wasn't the issue. I don't see Lindy winning it. Quote
shrader Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 1 minute ago, PASabreFan said: The language is important: The coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success." That's clear as mud. It's never been, who's the best coach? It's who's done the most with the least, typically in taking a team that was down to great success. See Ted Nolans 1996-97. I think Lindy is well on his way to completing the latter, but I'd guess Buffalo is a team most of the voters would see as a talented group that could never get over the hump. Jarmo himself said talent wasn't the issue. I don't see Lindy winning it. Is adjudged even a word? Autocorrect didn’t flag it, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen that one before. Quote
Eleven Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 26 minutes ago, shrader said: Is adjudged even a word? Autocorrect didn’t flag it, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen that one before. It is a perfectly cromulent word. 1 Quote
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