mjd1001 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 I can't read the entire article, don't have a subscription, but for those that do.... https://buffalonews.com/life-entertainment/local/article_6042ec5d-bd57-4da2-9fd2-56037daac2bf.html#tracking-source=home-top-story 1 1 Quote
Shoot da Puck Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Let me guess another streaming option , $29 for one year 1 1 Quote
Taro T Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 25 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I can't read the entire article, don't have a subscription, but for those that do.... https://buffalonews.com/life-entertainment/local/article_6042ec5d-bd57-4da2-9fd2-56037daac2bf.html#tracking-source=home-top-story Article seems to only be 1 sentence long. Next season each will have a new audio home. 1 Quote
pastajoe Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Terry must have butthurt over WGR scrutinizing his bad decisions over the years. 3 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Hopefully they find a replacement for Dunleavy! 2 2 2 2 Quote
mjd1001 Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Taro T said: Article seems to only be 1 sentence long. Next season each will have a new audio home. Thanks, The headline was poorly written. Maybe its a punctuation issue. If you break it down literally, it comes across as 2 parts: Bills and Sabres leaving WGR. Then "Flagship station to produce own games". Without punctuation, it makes it seem like they are saying WGR will produce their own games, but maybe Bills and Sabres will launch a new flagship station of their own? Again, just poorly written headline. 1 2 Quote
mjd1001 Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Nacho Libre said: Netflix got em Well, if it WAS video, not audio, I would always hope for a new, Pegula owned version of Empire sports. With Bills content (radio shows simulcast over video, pre and post game stuff, etc) and Sabres live games, replays, and content, they could fill up quite a bit of programming. Buy some other cheap content to fill in blank spots in the schedule (or just replay Sabres games over and over) and I think a TV network like that would have a better chance of being profitable now than it did a few decades ago (lets not forget adding a streaming subscription). Again, this announcement just seems like the audio broadcast of the games only though. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Below is from the article. It sounds as though games could continue to be broadcast through WGR, but that WGR would be doing so as a mere broadcast affiliate of the Buffalo Bills and/or the Buffalo Sabres. My inference is that the teams are raking back some of the revenue that arises from the right to broadcast the events on the radio. The Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Sabres plan to leave WGR-AM as their flagship radio home at the start of next season for both professional sports teams. Pete Guelli, president of business operations for the Bills and Sabres, Tuesday afternoon confirmed the plan for the teams to handle sales and production in-house with an affiliate network. He didn’t rule out WGR remaining as an affiliate but said it could be any Buffalo station. He added the Bills and Sabres could have different affiliate radio stations in the market. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Below is from the article. It sounds as though games could continue to be broadcast through WGR, but that WGR would be doing so as a mere broadcast affiliate of the Buffalo Bills and/or the Buffalo Sabres. My inference is that the teams are raking back some of the revenue that arises from the right to broadcast the events on the radio. The Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Sabres plan to leave WGR-AM as their flagship radio home at the start of next season for both professional sports teams. Pete Guelli, president of business operations for the Bills and Sabres, Tuesday afternoon confirmed the plan for the teams to handle sales and production in-house with an affiliate network. He didn’t rule out WGR remaining as an affiliate but said it could be any Buffalo station. He added the Bills and Sabres could have different affiliate radio stations in the market. This sounds like one of those stupid ideas someone with an MBA came up with. But hey, maybe they will surprise us. I sure as hell won't be paying for any other services any time soon. 1 1 Quote
shrader Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 Do they go back to one of the FM stations? I can pick up a few different affiliates for the Panthers around here and they're all FM. Maybe they have AM stations too, but I have never actually hit that button in my 3 year old car. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: but maybe Bills and Sabres will launch a new flagship station of their own? it sounds like that's what's happening. i don't think that this means the Bills and Sabres will acquire rights to some AM radio frequency ...? actually - and maybe yuck - is the radio broadcast going to be an audio stream that the Bills/Sabres generate and then license to affiliates like WGR? there's a technology issue here that i don't understand. isn't a traditional radio broadcast essentially instantaneous? this sounds like the broadcasts will become audio streams. maybe that's already happening, though. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 As poor as they can be at times, I still listen to the wgr morning and afternoon shows, some days I find them generally enjoyable, some days they talk about golf and fantasy teams and I want to vomit. Otherwise, I can't remember the last time I listened to a game on radio, there's almost always some sort of way to find the games on video in 2026 3 Quote
mjd1001 Posted February 3 Author Report Posted February 3 (edited) 35 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: This sounds like one of those stupid ideas someone with an MBA came up with. But hey, maybe they will surprise us. I sure as hell won't be paying for any other services any time soon. I'm there with you and probably beyond that. We don't even keep basic, cheaper cable year round (I usually have it for part of the Sabres season, but we cancel it after that). Streaming networks? We are down to only have 2 of them at a time, and canceling them after we watch what we want. I guess we can afford it, but you know what? With the cost of how much they are charging, I can find other things to do I enjoy more than what we are getting out of them. I can watch a hockey game without buying a $200+ jersey and wearing it while I watch it. I can go to a friends or a restaurant to watch a game instead of playing $400+ for tickets, parking, food and drink at the overpriced venues. I can wait to watch the latest Netflix or Prime movie a few months until we re-subscribe to them on our terms, they are pumping out some pretty average movies lately anyway that don't have much production value. And as far as sports, I quit the NBA 20+ years ago, haven't watched a full 9 innning baseball game in almost a decade, I'm fading on the Bills and the NFL too. I just almost personally despise how everything is about overcharging, wringing every last dollar out of me (us as fans), paying for multiple subscriptions to follow/watch your league, and then after you pay for that....watching an actual 15 minutes of action in a football game while watching over an hour of advertisements. Oh, and I didn't even mention I can't even listen to the radio shows anymore that just talk about your team without hearing stupid gambling commercials at almost every commercial break, and then when they actually come back to the show, the actual HOSTS of the show talk about gambling, odds, bets and fantasy sports. I know a rant a bit off topic, but my sports 'fandom' has gone from the #1 thing in my life a couple decades ago to being bored with most sports and almost despising them for how they treat their own fans. This better not be a way to wring more dollars out of the fans. Edited February 3 by mjd1001 1 1 1 Quote
pastajoe Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 34 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Hopefully they find a replacement for Dunleavy! He works for the Sabres, not WGR. 1 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 29 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: As poor as they can be at times, I still listen to the wgr morning and afternoon shows, some days I find them generally enjoyable, some days they talk about golf and fantasy teams and I want to vomit. Otherwise, I can't remember the last time I listened to a game on radio, there's almost always some sort of way to find the games on video in 2026 While at work I listen to them, like tonight when I do my 7pm to 7am shift. I can’t get a good connection in the plant for streaming. Quote
Brawndo Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 I wonder if Audacy did not want to meet the asking price for the broadcast rights Also the WGR Feed is going to be carrying on 107.7 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I wonder if Audacy did not want to meet the asking price for the broadcast rights Also the WGR Feed is going to be carrying on 107.7 WGR generally is going to be simulcast on 107.7? I presume this decision is almost 100% about money. It's not without risk, though. Now the Bills and Sabres have to be responsible for their own radio broadcasts. That seems like a decent lift? A new line of business? 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: WGR generally is going to be simulcast on 107.7? I presume this decision is almost 100% about money. It's not without risk, though. Now the Bills and Sabres have to be responsible for their own radio broadcasts. That seems like a decent lift? A new line of business? Yes-on WGR Absolutely I think this has to do with money. The sponsorship fees for the new stadium are astronomical as would be expected. So they are going to do everything can to keep as many revenue streams in house as possible Some older Bills Fans will be resistant to streaming as they are adverse to technology so it should be interesting to see 1 Quote
Taro T Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: WGR generally is going to be simulcast on 107.7? I presume this decision is almost 100% about money. It's not without risk, though. Now the Bills and Sabres have to be responsible for their own radio broadcasts. That seems like a decent lift? A new line of business? 6 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Yes-on WGR Absolutely I think this has to do with money. The sponsorship fees for the new stadium are astronomical as would be expected. So they are going to do everything can to keep as many revenue streams in house as possible Some older Bills Fans will be resistant to streaming as they are adverse to technology so it should be interesting to see GR streaming on 107.7 would be great. After the sun goes down it's hit or miss to pick GR up much east of Alden courtesy of the "figure 8" pattern the broadcast goes out on after dusk. Used to be able to pick up NSA out to at least Geneva, maybe even further east. 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Yes-on WGR Absolutely I think this has to do with money. The sponsorship fees for the new stadium are astronomical as would be expected. So they are going to do everything can to keep as many revenue streams in house as possible Some older Bills Fans will be resistant to streaming as they are adverse to technology so it should be interesting to see Thanks. Guelli was quoted as saying that they're open to WGR being a local affiliate of the Bills's broadcasts and Sabres' broadcasts. So, Brown or Dunleavy, depending, would be periodically saying "let's pause here for station identification" and now WGR (or possibly some other local radio station (but there's only a few corporate parent companies, right?)) would chime in to identify itself as an affiliate of the Bills or Sabres broadcasting entity. Is that about right? Quote
tom webster Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Yes-on WGR Absolutely I think this has to do with money. The sponsorship fees for the new stadium are astronomical as would be expected. So they are going to do everything can to keep as many revenue streams in house as possible Some older Bills Fans will be resistant to streaming as they are adverse to technology so it should be interesting to see I’m not fluent in all the technology and rules and such but I’m pretty sure it’s required that radio broadcasts be free in local market so the old timers should see no change to how they listen. It’ll be produce and distributed by the team but it will be available over the air somewhere in the local market. That was one of the trade offs required to jeep the NFL’s antitrust exemption in effect. 2 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, Taro T said: GR streaming on 107.7 would be great. After the sun goes down it's hit or miss to pick GR up much east of Alden courtesy of the "figure 8" pattern the broadcast goes out on after dusk. Used to be able to pick up NSA out to at least Geneva, maybe even further east. Sunset affects radio waves? I had no idea. My periodic trips to northeast Ohio over the past few years have taught me that - during daylight hours anyway - I can get WGR550 right about where 271 spurs off 90 in the eastern suburbs of Cleveland. 1 minute ago, tom webster said: I’m not fluent in all the technology and rules and such but I’m pretty sure it’s required that radio broadcasts be free in local market so the old timers should see no change to how they listen. It’ll be produce and distributed by the team but it will be available over the air somewhere in the local market. That was one of the trade offs required to jeep the NFL’s antitrust exemption in effect. That makes sense. My question continues to be: The Bills and Sabres won't be doing a traditional radio broadcast, will they? This is gonna be streamed, I presume. And then traditional radio broadcasters are going to pick up that stream and ... put it out on the radio? I feel like sound quality and timeliness are gonna suffer. Quote
Taro T Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 25 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Sunset affects radio waves? I had no idea. My periodic trips to northeast Ohio over the past few years have taught me that - during daylight hours anyway - I can get WGR550 right about where 271 spurs off 90 in the eastern suburbs of Cleveland. That makes sense. My question continues to be: The Bills and Sabres won't be doing a traditional radio broadcast, will they? This is gonna be streamed, I presume. And then traditional radio broadcasters are going to pick up that stream and ... put it out on the radio? I feel like sound quality and timeliness are gonna suffer. AM broadcasts carry further at night than they do during the day, so most (all?) AM broadcasters are required to reduce their transmitter power at night to reduce how much the stations interfere with each other near their local markets. As soon as the sun goes down, so does the power output. Which stinks if you're outside the "local" market but can still pick up the station during the day and they end up significantly reducing the output in your direction. Pretty sure FM broadcasts aren't affected in the same way, so there isn't the same reduction in output for FM stations in the evening. Quote
tom webster Posted February 3 Report Posted February 3 35 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Sunset affects radio waves? I had no idea. My periodic trips to northeast Ohio over the past few years have taught me that - during daylight hours anyway - I can get WGR550 right about where 271 spurs off 90 in the eastern suburbs of Cleveland. That makes sense. My question continues to be: The Bills and Sabres won't be doing a traditional radio broadcast, will they? This is gonna be streamed, I presume. And then traditional radio broadcasters are going to pick up that stream and ... put it out on the radio? I feel like sound quality and timeliness are gonna suffer. Yeah, I have no idea how it will work. Like done others have said, I haven’t listened to a game on the radio in years. Quote
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