PromoTheRobot Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-frigid-homecoming-in-toronto/id1332150124?i=1000746321960 Sabres talk starts at 22:00 1 Quote
North Buffalo Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Interesting especially about Tuch and repeercussions about Tuch Quote
JohnC Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Can someone summarize what he said about the Sabres and Tuch situation? I would appreciate it. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 54 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-frigid-homecoming-in-toronto/id1332150124?i=1000746321960 Sabres talk starts at 22:00 more like 25:00 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 58 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-frigid-homecoming-in-toronto/id1332150124?i=1000746321960 Sabres talk starts at 22:00 Not sure if you were just messing around, but you gotta give some context rather than just post a link. 2 Quote
tom webster Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) 47 minutes ago, JohnC said: Can someone summarize what he said about the Sabres and Tuch situation? I would appreciate it. A) He joked about KA getting GM of the year votes B) Neither think the GM change explains how much better they are playing C) EF thinks he might wait as long as possible to decide what to do with Tuch D) If they decide to extend him, they guess that they would put all other contract decisions on back burner. E) Basically believe he shouldn’t do anything to change the good vibes that are presently happening Edited January 23 by tom webster 2 1 4 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 listening to it now. i don't mean to be an ass, but the quality of Sabres discourse is about the same as what I find here (in some ways better, in others worse). Elliott first riffs on Kevyn Adams getting GM of the year votes if the Sabres make a playoff run. That's just a very online thing to say. Hot-takery, not analysis. He then gets into the Skinner cap hit next season. That's gonna be a payroll factor, I guess. When he comes back around to Tuch, he says he has a theory: Post-Jarmo, it's been all good news for the Sabres. What is the worst thing Jarmo could do in that scenario? Mess with the roster. That said, he thinks Jarmo probably wanted to move Tuch but now feels he can't do it until it's absolutely necessary. Or that if Jarmo feels he must sign Tuch because the team is on this great run, then he signs Tuch and punts everything else until June. Friedman said that Jarmo is being governed or influenced by this rule: "Don't F**K with happy." I listened. Honestly? It's not unlike what I get here. 2 2 Quote
Scottysabres Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: listening to it now. i don't mean to be an ass, but the quality of Sabres discourse is about the same as what I find here (in some ways better, in others worse). Elliott first riffs on Kevyn Adams getting GM of the year votes if the Sabres make a playoff run. That's just a very online thing to say. Hot-takery, not analysis. He then gets into the Skinner cap hit next season. That's gonna be a payroll factor, I guess. When he comes back around to Tuch, he says he has a theory: Post-Jarmo, it's been all good news for the Sabres. What is the worst thing Jarmo could do in that scenario? Mess with the roster. That said, he thinks Jarmo probably wanted to move Tuch but now feels he can't do it until it's absolutely necessary. Or that if Jarmo feels he must sign Tuch because the team is on this great run, then he signs Tuch and punts everything else until June. Friedman said that Jarmo is being governed or influenced by this rule: "Don't F**K with happy." I listened. Honestly? It's not unlike what I get here. Something to consider, instead of posting via text we could do all of our posts with a South Park voice over podcast. 4 Quote
JohnC Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 18 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: listening to it now. i don't mean to be an ass, but the quality of Sabres discourse is about the same as what I find here (in some ways better, in others worse). Elliott first riffs on Kevyn Adams getting GM of the year votes if the Sabres make a playoff run. That's just a very online thing to say. Hot-takery, not analysis. He then gets into the Skinner cap hit next season. That's gonna be a payroll factor, I guess. When he comes back around to Tuch, he says he has a theory: Post-Jarmo, it's been all good news for the Sabres. What is the worst thing Jarmo could do in that scenario? Mess with the roster. That said, he thinks Jarmo probably wanted to move Tuch but now feels he can't do it until it's absolutely necessary. Or that if Jarmo feels he must sign Tuch because the team is on this great run, then he signs Tuch and punts everything else until June. Friedman said that Jarmo is being governed or influenced by this rule: "Don't F**K with happy." I listened. Honestly? It's not unlike what I get here. From Jarmo’s standpoint: why would he do anything to mess with the chemistry of the team that is doing stunningly well? Sometimes the best move is knowing when to make a move and when not to make a move. I believe that Jarmo is smart enough and wise enough to recognize the situation he is in. 3 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 34 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Not sure if you were just messing around, but you gotta give some context rather than just post a link. I thought about it but it's only like 15 minutes long Quote
Taro T Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 36 minutes ago, tom webster said: A) He joked about KA getting GM of the year votes B) Neither think the GM change explains how much better they are playing C) EF thinks he might wait as long as possible to decide what to do with Tuch D) If they decide to extend him, they guess that they would put all other contract decisions on back burner. E) Basically believe he shouldn’t do anything to change the good vibes that are presently happening Later in the podcast he also talked about Robert Thomas. He said he does believe the Blues are open to offers but are going to either need a "22-24 yo Robert Thomas or a package so large they simply can't turn it down." So, he was basically saying that yes, the Blues will listen to offers but don't expect him to actually get traded. 1 Quote
tom webster Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Later in the podcast he also talked about Robert Thomas. He said he does believe the Blues are open to offers but are going to either need a "22-24 yo Robert Thomas or a package so large they simply can't turn it down." So, he was basically saying that yes, the Blues will listen to offers but don't expect him to actually get traded. Yeah, it just doesn’t make sense for them to trade him, especially with that very good contract. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Thomas will be a draft time deal, if it happens at all 2 1 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: listening to it now. i don't mean to be an ass, but the quality of Sabres discourse is about the same as what I find here (in some ways better, in others worse). Elliott first riffs on Kevyn Adams getting GM of the year votes if the Sabres make a playoff run. That's just a very online thing to say. Hot-takery, not analysis. He then gets into the Skinner cap hit next season. That's gonna be a payroll factor, I guess. When he comes back around to Tuch, he says he has a theory: Post-Jarmo, it's been all good news for the Sabres. What is the worst thing Jarmo could do in that scenario? Mess with the roster. That said, he thinks Jarmo probably wanted to move Tuch but now feels he can't do it until it's absolutely necessary. Or that if Jarmo feels he must sign Tuch because the team is on this great run, then he signs Tuch and punts everything else until June. Friedman said that Jarmo is being governed or influenced by this rule: "Don't F**K with happy." I listened. Honestly? It's not unlike what I get here. Let's not ***** with happy but let's trade Owen Power 🤦♂️ Quote
mjd1001 Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: listening to it now. i don't mean to be an ass, but the quality of Sabres discourse is about the same as what I find here (in some ways better, in others worse). Elliott first riffs on Kevyn Adams getting GM of the year votes if the Sabres make a playoff run. That's just a very online thing to say. Hot-takery, not analysis. He then gets into the Skinner cap hit next season. That's gonna be a payroll factor, I guess. When he comes back around to Tuch, he says he has a theory: Post-Jarmo, it's been all good news for the Sabres. What is the worst thing Jarmo could do in that scenario? Mess with the roster. That said, he thinks Jarmo probably wanted to move Tuch but now feels he can't do it until it's absolutely necessary. Or that if Jarmo feels he must sign Tuch because the team is on this great run, then he signs Tuch and punts everything else until June. Friedman said that Jarmo is being governed or influenced by this rule: "Don't F**K with happy." I listened. Honestly? It's not unlike what I get here. So Tuch might be moved, then again, he might stay for a while. Or he might stay long term and no one else will be signed to make room for Tuch, except Doan just got signed. Thanks Friedman, that REALLY clears things up. 6 Quote
RPop Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 5 hours ago, Taro T said: Later in the podcast he also talked about Robert Thomas. He said he does believe the Blues are open to offers but are going to either need a "22-24 yo Robert Thomas or a package so large they simply can't turn it down." So, he was basically saying that yes, the Blues will listen to offers but don't expect him to actually get traded. Kulich and Ellis back 🤷🏻♂️ Quote
Nacho Libre Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 6 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: listening to it now. i don't mean to be an ass, but the quality of Sabres discourse is about the same as what I find here (in some ways better, in others worse). Elliott first riffs on Kevyn Adams getting GM of the year votes if the Sabres make a playoff run. That's just a very online thing to say. Hot-takery, not analysis. He then gets into the Skinner cap hit next season. That's gonna be a payroll factor, I guess. When he comes back around to Tuch, he says he has a theory: Post-Jarmo, it's been all good news for the Sabres. What is the worst thing Jarmo could do in that scenario? Mess with the roster. That said, he thinks Jarmo probably wanted to move Tuch but now feels he can't do it until it's absolutely necessary. Or that if Jarmo feels he must sign Tuch because the team is on this great run, then he signs Tuch and punts everything else until June. Friedman said that Jarmo is being governed or influenced by this rule: "Don't F**K with happy." I listened. Honestly? It's not unlike what I get here. Good post I feel like with the incredibly large amount of CONTENT! being pumped out endlessly that, with it becoming so watered down, the gap between the “pros” on the mics and the goofs like us has rapidly shrunk over time We’ve always doubled down on talking. They are joining that club 2 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 8 hours ago, Thorny said: Good post I feel like with the incredibly large amount of CONTENT! being pumped out endlessly that, with it becoming so watered down, the gap between the “pros” on the mics and the goofs like us has rapidly shrunk over time We’ve always doubled down on talking. They are joining that club Excellent analysis. 1 Quote
tom webster Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 8 hours ago, Thorny said: Good post I feel like with the incredibly large amount of CONTENT! being pumped out endlessly that, with it becoming so watered down, the gap between the “pros” on the mics and the goofs like us has rapidly shrunk over time We’ve always doubled down on talking. They are joining that club I think that like a lot of things, it’s always been this way, we just didn’t know it. We, as in fans everywhere, used to believe everything these guys said, especially the national guys that seemed so tuned in. I remember the exact moment when I realized that I was wrong. It was a John Clayton segment when he was talking about the Bills and I realized he probably hadn’t even watched them play. These guys are the ultimate medicine men. They are making a living telling fans what they want to hear with no worries about being accountable because they never really say anything. 1 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 25 minutes ago, tom webster said: I think that like a lot of things, it’s always been this way, we just didn’t know it. We, as in fans everywhere, used to believe everything these guys said, especially the national guys that seemed so tuned in. I remember the exact moment when I realized that I was wrong. It was a John Clayton segment when he was talking about the Bills and I realized he probably hadn’t even watched them play. These guys are the ultimate medicine men. They are making a living telling fans what they want to hear with no worries about being accountable because they never really say anything. Expertise is very often sophistry. Plato diagnosed the talking disease millennia ago. 2 1 Quote
tom webster Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Expertise is very often sophistry. Plato diagnosed the talking disease millennia ago. Ok, I consider myself fairly well spoken but I had to look up “sophistry.” Going to a family party soon. Feel like I have to work it into the conversation now.🤷♂️ 4 Quote
Mr. MVP Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 15 hours ago, tom webster said: A) He joked about KA getting GM of the year votes B) Neither think the GM change explains how much better they are playing Once again proving that Sabrespace is harsher on Adams than most. This is Adams team succeeding right now. Not Jarmos. 2 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, tom webster said: I think that like a lot of things, it’s always been this way, we just didn’t know it. We, as in fans everywhere, used to believe everything these guys said, especially the national guys that seemed so tuned in. I remember the exact moment when I realized that I was wrong. It was a John Clayton segment when he was talking about the Bills and I realized he probably hadn’t even watched them play. These guys are the ultimate medicine men. They are making a living telling fans what they want to hear with no worries about being accountable because they never really say anything. and i mean — did Clayton (RIP) and do Friedman occasionally have some inside info that we don’t? I suppose. But that segment was no better on balance than our collective efforts to figure out the Sabres’ future. Edited January 24 by That Aud Smell Quote
tom webster Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 6 hours ago, tom webster said: Ok, I consider myself fairly well spoken but I had to look up “sophistry.” Going to a family party soon. Feel like I have to work it into the conversation now.🤷♂️ It’s official, my family is dumb. They all thought I was saying “sophistry” because I had too much to drink. 5 Quote
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