Per Ruff Jason Zucker will miss some time

[JP51]

3 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

DeBoer is out there.   Maybe they make a coaching change soon but I doubt it since the plan was Lindy for 2 years and then Appert.  

DeBoer would be a choice I would jump up and down for simply because it was not coming from this incestuous cesspool of misery and failure...  but like you I think the best we get is Keko and Appert and more failure as we watch players demand trades and all we get are picks and prospects.... 

I will say this.. please dont fire Lindy before Adams... I do not want Adams to make another coaching choice... then again its probably Pegula making the picks... 

Edited 5 hours ago by JP51

[#freejame]

9 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

DeBoer is out there.   Maybe they make a coaching change soon but I doubt it since the plan was Lindy for 2 years and then Appert.  

Could you imagine being a business and needing to adjust your plans. 
 

[Eleven]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

If Östlund is called back up, he will have flown from Winnipeg to Toronto, taken a car service to Rochester. Then taken a bus ride from Rochester to Belleville for tomorrow’s game. Then fly from Ottawa to Vancouver to meet the team on Thursday. 

He's young.  He'll be fine.

[Indabuff]

And the hits just keep on coming...

[Archie Lee]

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

For those of you clamoring for Don Granato or another Sabres coach... lets examine what the league thinks of them

Granato - not employed in the NHL, nor as a coach anywhere he does part time analysis on Sirius XM

Housley - Not in the NHL or in coaching 

Kreuger - nothing listed for current employment 

Bottom line, not one recent coach even has a job in the NHL anymore...  Granato and Kruger didnt even get a look, Housley was fired twice as an assistant in a few years and is out of the league...  

Ruff is clearly not all that and I believe when he is fired the inevitable will be he is out of the NHL as well...  this is not a referendum on these men... but it is an observation that NHL execs certainly are not clamoring to give these guys a job... like any job... Ruff in his day was very good... but he is out of touch I believe and just looks plain old tired... like I cant fix this... please fire me soon... Bottom line Adams coaching hires (or Pegula's I am not sure) are uninspired, lack competence and are clearly not in demand for literally any job in this league... 

Is Muckler still alive? I know Scottie lives in Williamsville still on the transit Valley golf course... maybe he can coach via zoom call like we do our scouting... 

 

 

 

 

Who is clamoring for any coach from the past?  I've defended Granato's record. There is no denying that Granato got far more out of the team than Ruff has gotten.  But, defending Granato's record isn't the same as arguing he should still be the coach.  Better coaches than Granato are fired all of the time.  The point is that Granato  was fired after getting much more out of much less.   

[Drag0nDan]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

As expected, Peterka's production is not easily replaced.

Peterka in 31 games:   12g 13a 25 pts and +5   

It appears that the Utah coach knows how to utilize Peterka to get offensive production and minimize the negative defensive outcomes.

They're 6-11-3 since November 1st though.  

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

DeBoer would be a choice I would jump up and down for simply because it was not coming from this incestuous cesspool of misery and failure...  but like you I think the best we get is Keko and Appert and more failure as we watch players demand trades and all we get are picks and prospects.... 

I will say this.. please dont fire Lindy before Adams... I do not want Adams to make another coaching choice... then again its probably Pegula making the picks... 

Just fire them both and be done with it.  Jarmo can hire whoever he's got on speed dial to finish out the season.  

[mjd1001]

2 hours ago, Brawndo said:

If Östlund is called back up, he will have flown from Winnipeg to Toronto, taken a car service to Rochester. Then taken a bus ride from Rochester to Belleville for tomorrow’s game. Then fly from Ottawa to Vancouver to meet the team on Thursday. 

Good thing the Sabres are lucky enough to have 3 great goalies to justify keeping all 3 of them and taking up that extra roster spot.

[JoeSchmoe]

2 hours ago, Brawndo said:

If Östlund is called back up, he will have flown from Winnipeg to Toronto, taken a car service to Rochester. Then taken a bus ride from Rochester to Belleville for tomorrow’s game. Then fly from Ottawa to Vancouver to meet the team on Thursday. 

I'd gladly do that for one game in the Chel.

[JP51]

1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

Who is clamoring for any coach from the past?  I've defended Granato's record. There is no denying that Granato got far more out of the team than Ruff has gotten.  But, defending Granato's record isn't the same as arguing he should still be the coach.  Better coaches than Granato are fired all of the time.  The point is that Granato  was fired after getting much more out of much less.   

Dude I wasnt referring to you...  and I wasnt referring to specifically Granato... there is always nostalgia and speculation about the past... I was simply stating that under Adams the coaches that we have brought on board have been less than accomplished to the point that they are no longer coaching...  Now if you are asking me which of the four I would chose to be our head coach and I needed to pick from 1 of the 4 I would pick Granato...  Ruff just doesnt have them and probably cant communicate with them.... Kruger was a farce, Housley lost them when he railed them about getting to the "dirty places on the ice" as he hid under the bench his whole career trying to avoid them...  Granato at least seemed to have their attention... 

Edited 3 hours ago by JP51

[Jorcus]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

The Sabres have lost 13 games by giving up 4 or more goals. They only have 2 games where they scored 6 or more so that's not really inflating their totals much. You are arguing that without a player like Peterka we simply are not scoring enough. We are scoring enough, but we cannot and have not for years been able to stop other teams. We needed a 20% reduction in goals against to make the playoffs, right now we are on pace for 291 goals against, 2 more than the 29th worst Buffalo Sabres were last year. TBF I ran the numbers the other way as well, we are running at a 249goal pace which is 20g less than last year. So Buffalo is actually worse at allowing goals (because the goaltending is ATROCIOUS) and they aren't scoring as much as last year. 

Half of the Eastern Conf playoff teams last year were close to 249goals (252, 242, 245, 243) but 0 of them were anywhere near 289ga. The closest was Montreal at 265ga and no other playoff team in the East was over 234ga.

I know our goaltending sucks but keep this in mind except for last night we would have had to hold our opposition to 2 goals or less in any game we lost in regulation. I don't think we could improve the goaltending enough to overcome most of these games where we are not scoring 4 goals. Yes I do think we need a left winger that can score goals. I was not against the Peterka trade but with Doan coming back on the right side we lost the scoring balance that is needed to have effective lines. It's hurting us. 

Sabres scoring in loses breakdown.

zero goals 3

one goal     4

two goals   5

three goals  5

4 goals         1   (last night)

 

[JP51]

15 minutes ago, Jorcus said:

I know our goaltending sucks but keep this in mind except for last night we would have had to hold our opposition to 2 goals or less in any game we lost in regulation. I don't think we could improve the goaltending enough to overcome most of these games where we are not scoring 4 goals. Yes I do think we need a left winger that can score goals. I was not against the Peterka trade but with Doan coming back on the right side we lost the scoring balance that is needed to have effective lines. It's hurting us. 

Sabres scoring in loses breakdown.

zero goals 3

one goal     4

two goals   5

three goals  5

4 goals         1   (last night)

 

I would say this... we are 2nd last in the league at GA  and lower half in goals for... I also think one is a function of the other... constantly down trying to score playing less defense, giving up empty net goals... and getting a few goals for because we threw away defense...  to me both sides are not good enough, the entire team doesnt play the right way, and if you ask me what our biggest problem is, its neither... its the softest, most uninspired, lazy, stupid playmaking defensman I have ever seen assembled (save Dahlin)

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, JP51 said:

DeBoer would be a choice I would jump up and down for simply because it was not coming from this incestuous cesspool of misery and failure...  but like you I think the best we get is Keko and Appert and more failure as we watch players demand trades and all we get are picks and prospects.... 

I will say this.. please dont fire Lindy before Adams... I do not want Adams to make another coaching choice... then again its probably Pegula making the picks... 

They need outsiders right now.  Outside GM and outside HC bringing in an outside staff.  

Jarmo is slightly tainted, but lets face it, if he wasn't already with Buffalo he would be on a list of possible GMs.  

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Jorcus said:

I know our goaltending sucks but keep this in mind except for last night we would have had to hold our opposition to 2 goals or less in any game we lost in regulation. I don't think we could improve the goaltending enough to overcome most of these games where we are not scoring 4 goals. Yes I do think we need a left winger that can score goals. I was not against the Peterka trade but with Doan coming back on the right side we lost the scoring balance that is needed to have effective lines. It's hurting us. 

Sabres scoring in loses breakdown.

zero goals 3

one goal     4

two goals   5

three goals  5

4 goals         1   (last night)

 

You are focused on a tree. The Buffalo Sabres have to cut 14% of the goals against the are giving up. That's the issue, they score at a rate similar to HALF of the playoff teams and have goals scored against them at NO rate near a playoff team. Peterka being gone doesn't unbalance anything because of how wings are run.  The line balance and scoring is not the problem, this team has to go from 290 goals against to 250. The lines being balanced with or without JJ or another LW is not the issue here. This team gives up too many goals against, period. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LGR4GM

[JP51]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

They need outsiders right now.  Outside GM and outside HC bringing in an outside staff.  

Jarmo is slightly tainted, but lets face it, if he wasn't already with Buffalo he would be on a list of possible GMs.  

Exactly they need some one with credibility that takes sime of the stench off this brand