GDT: Sabres @ Flames, Dec 8, 2025, 9pm. WGR, MSG, ESPN+(out of market)

[SwampD]

Greenway’s pottin’ 2 tonight.

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5 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Greenway’s pottin’ 2 tonight.

How many are own goals?

[Brawndo]

I do not believe Lindy realized how dysfunctional this organization had become when he agreed to be HC 

[Taro T]

3 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I do not believe Lindy realized how dysfunctional this organization had become when he agreed to be HC 

It's possible; likely actually.  But, essentially not making any changes in the coaching staff before he started coaching them again nor again after coaching with them for a full year; seems to say something too.

[Mango]

19 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I do not believe Lindy realized how dysfunctional this organization had become when he agreed to be HC 

He also had similar words around the 3 headed goalie situation. He was asked how hard it is for the goalies to get in rhythm with 3 on the roster and he said something like "it's been really hard for me too"

It's clear Pegula/Adams is the problem here.

I've beat this drum, Lindy is a respected hockeman in the NHL who belongs in the hall of very good. He's a tenured pro, we'll know by the end whether the issue is coaching or FO. 

It's clearly FO and Lindy is telling us as of late.

Edited 20 hours ago by Mango

[mjd1001]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

He also had similar words around the 3 headed goalie situation. He was asked how hard it is for the goalies to get in rhythm with 3 on the roster and he said something like "it's been really hard for me too"

It's clear Pegula/Adams is the problem here.

I've beat this drum, Lindy is a respected hockeman in the NHL who belongs in th hall of very good. He's a tenured pro, well know by the end whether the issue is coaching or FO. 

It's clearly FO and Lindy is telling us as of late.

Which is why, when it gets brough up, I'm not in favor of firing Ruff and thinking it will fix everything or anything.

1.) Its the roster management more than the head coach that hurts this team.

2.) If the Ownership/management doesn't change how they do things, what 'good' coach will want to come here and work under the conditions that exist?

[Night Train]

Make it stop !  

Too soon ? 

[Mango]

9 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Which is why, when it gets brough up, I'm not in favor of firing Ruff and thinking it will fix everything or anything.

1.) Its the roster management more than the head coach that hurts this team.

2.) If the Ownership/management doesn't change how they do things, what 'good' coach will want to come here and work under the conditions that exist?

It's also a little frustrating that the long tenured HC is publically saying/hinting that he disagrees with at least 2/23 players.

My take on Lindy is that if you give him the 10th best roster he'll often be about the 10th best team in the league. But if you give him the 20th best roster he'll have you in the playoffs more often than you miss. If you're bottom 10 he'll have you in the hunt.

He's a low ceiling, high floor kind of coach. He's a good stabilizer for an organization in transition and/or with a young, but he won't get you over the hump.

To your point, firing Lindy accomplishes nothing.

[Brawndo]

19 minutes ago, Taro T said:

It's possible; likely actually.  But, essentially not making any changes in the coaching staff before he started coaching them again nor again after coaching with them for a full year; seems to say something too.

Yep. The owner would allow one specific coaching change this offseason, when he said no the status quo remained 

[JohnC]

39 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I do not believe Lindy realized how dysfunctional this organization had become when he agreed to be HC 

I disagree. It wasn't a secret to him or anyone involved in the league that the Sabre organization was and is dysfunctional. He probably thought he would have more say into personnel and staffing decisions. But clearly, he isn't as influential and empowered as he thought he would be. There were and are a lot of qualified people who wouldn't have an interest in taking the coaching job if offered because they know what they would be encountering here in this Pegula toxic dump. 

Edited 20 hours ago by JohnC

[LGR4GM]

We all know Adams needs to go. Lindy hinting at dysfunction doesn't change that.

[Brawndo]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

We all know Adams needs to go. Lindy hinting at dysfunction doesn't change that.

Adams is more likely to be promoted to POHO then be removed from the organization 

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1 minute ago, Brawndo said:

Adams is more likely to be promoted to POHO then be removed from the organization 

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Brawndo said:

Adams is more likely to be promoted to POHO then be removed from the organization 

Because Terry is stupid and the org is dysfunctional. Nothing will change as long as Terrance thinks he's smart. You'd think 15yrs of ***** up would convince him but nahhh

[Mango]

13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

We all know Adams needs to go. Lindy hinting at dysfunction doesn't change that.

I think Lindy is the most respected guy to sit in front of a mic and say that shirt is hard in Buffalo.

So in that respect it helps cut through the bullshirt/gaslighting we get from Adams.

[JohnC]

26 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Adams is more likely to be promoted to POHO then be removed from the organization 

I wouldn't be bothered if KA was promoted to the POHO position. The issue then becomes is he still making the hockey decisions or would the next GM be making the personnel decisions. The issue isn't what position he has as it is how empowered is he. 

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I wouldn't be bothered if KA was promoted to the POHO position. The issue then becomes is he still making the hockey decisions or would the next GM be making the personnel decisions. The issue isn't what position he has as it is how empowered is he. 

Taking out your testicular cancer just to put it into your head, seems counter productive. 

[JohnC]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Taking out your testicular cancer just to put it into your head, seems counter productive. 

If KA is elevated to a position with a loftier title without much authority, then I would be fine with that. He can have whatever title he wants as long as another GM is the one authorized to make the hockey decisions. Will that be the case in this weird Pegula organization? I don't know. 

[Doohickie]

2 hours ago, Brawndo said:

 

That's hardly "throwing shade."  I think everything he said is pretty objectively accurate.

[Shoot da Puck]

Gun Smoke or the Sabres?

[Doohickie]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

We all know Adams needs to go. Lindy hinting at dysfunction doesn't change that.

And really... it's hinting.  It's only blatant to the Kevyn haters.

[Doohickie]

6 minutes ago, Shoot da Puck said:

Gun Smoke or the Sabres?

Or Monday Night Football.... eh, not with Troy... he's such a tool.

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6 minutes ago, Shoot da Puck said:

Gun Smoke or the Sabres?

I was going to go with QVC. I'm in the market for some decorative Christmas tins

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7 minutes ago, Shoot da Puck said:

Gun Smoke or the Sabres?

6-7 Sabres?

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