Mattias Samuelsson in concussion protocol, Nov 28, 2025

[LGR4GM]

 

 

[DarthEbriate]

Good to be safe. He definitely was dazed and not with it when he first got back to his knees. Under no circumstances should he play tomorrow. Hopefully, he's good to go for the road trip.

Need a lefty with size? Let's see Novikov for a game (or two).

[Forecheck]

Was only a matter of time before he was out. Probably was our best D man this year so far. Sounds about right. 

[Wyldnwoody44]

They review everything else, why not a clear major elbow. 

Player safety my rump 

[shrader]

30 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

They review everything else, why not a clear major elbow. 

Player safety my rump 

I don’t see the game, but they only review if it has already been called a major. 

[Wyldnwoody44]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

I don’t see the game, but they only review if it has already been called a major. 

Right, those are the current rules. 

But since they allow for reviews of other non consequential crap, why stop there? 

If a player is injured cleary by a missed call that could be a major (or even jsut head contact) why not look at it.... College has targeting rules. 

Just seems weird that a league that is pretending to care about player safety allows a foe a review of 1mm of ice but this is a big Oh well, we didn't see it, carry on 

[tom webster]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

I don’t see the game, but they only review if it has already been called a major. 

Yes but referees with even a bit of a brain call it a major so they can review it and than reduce it to a minor if warranted 

[Weave]

Interesting that the guy who didn’t react to Tage’s head shot last year is the victim of an elbow to the face this year with a luke warm response.

[PASabreFan]

35 minutes ago, Weave said:

Interesting that the guy who didn’t react to Tage’s head shot last year is the victim of an elbow to the face this year with a luke warm response.

Was is it even lukewarm?

And how about the franchise scorer having to endanger himself to settle a score?

I call BS on all these shenanigans.

[bunomatic]

Anyone have video of the hit?

[Pimlach]

50 minutes ago, Weave said:

Interesting that the guy who didn’t react to Tage’s head shot last year is the victim of an elbow to the face this year with a luke warm response.

As I said in the GDT, Muel will fight him next year. 

14 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Was is it even lukewarm?

And how about the franchise scorer having to endanger himself to settle a score?

I call BS on all these shenanigans.

BTW, a bit of irony.  It was Sigenthaler who backed Muel down against retaliation on Noesom last year.   Now he elbows him in the face and concusses him.  

Ref should have called it a 5 first, and then reviewed it.  

Remember back in the day with teams like the Flyers and Islanders,  these player feuds went on for years.  

 

[PASabreFan]

How feckless did Ras look talking to the ref after the hit and no call?

[SwampD]

Every replay I’ve seen has the actual contact edited out. Is that some grand design by the NHL?

Does anyone have a link to the actual hit?

[Sidc3000]

 

this is my fake surprised face.

I actually feel bad for him this time only because he was probably the best Dman so far this season. Also I don’t necessarily believe it was intentional and I’m guessing the refs felt it was just a bad outcome of a hockey play.  As soon as I saw him go down, I knew he would be out for a bit. 

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

As I said in the GDT, Muel will fight him next year. 

Probably a bad idea since Muel will probably be out a month with a concussion if he fights him

Edited 3 hours ago by Sidc3000

[Sidc3000]

20 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Every replay I’ve seen has the actual contact edited out. Is that some grand design by the NHL?

Does anyone have a link to the actual hit?

 

[Spoonman]

4 hours ago, shrader said:

I don’t see the game, but they only review if it has already been called a major. 

I know the rule, and situations like this SHOULD be reviewed. 

Hell, they check for a toe pick over the line on offside challenge. Why not review  when an obvious injury happened (oh, wait there I go using logic).

Instead, no penalty called. Obviously,Sammy just spontaneously blew a leak in his nose & concussed himself. 

[Spoonman]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

As I said in the GDT, Muel will fight him next year. 

BTW, a bit of irony.  It was Sigenthaler who backed Muel down against retaliation on Noesom last year.   Now he elbows him in the face and concusses him.  

Ref should have called it a 5 first, and then reviewed it.  

Remember back in the day with teams like the Flyers and Islanders,  these player feuds went on for years.  

 

Agree Coach (we tend to be on same page). That said,  Muel should but won’t fight (next game is 12/21 @NJ). Dunne or bring up Gerrt for the game. 

Sabres seen as a soft team & no respect. Someone needed to kick his butt on the spot or next shift. 

Nothing. 
 

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, PASabreFan said:

How feckless did Ras look talking to the ref after the hit and no call?

The fecklometer says there was a normal amount of feck.  

[Weave]

2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

How feckless did Ras look talking to the ref after the hit and no call?

I am sure he called someone’s mom a female dog.  That should be inspiring, no?

2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

Was is it even lukewarm?

And how about the franchise scorer having to endanger himself to settle a score?

I call BS on all these shenanigans.

This is not how teams behave.

[shrader]

4 hours ago, tom webster said:

Yes but referees with even a bit of a brain call it a major so they can review it and than reduce it to a minor if warranted 

If I’m following this correctly, no penalty was called at all, right? You can’t expect refs to randomly call a major penalty in a spot where they didn’t think anything happened at all. Fix the system, fine, but I don’t want refs just creating penalties out of thin air under any circumstances. That’s a recipe for disaster… it would probably satisfy the gambling overlords though. 

[tom webster]

33 minutes ago, shrader said:

If I’m following this correctly, no penalty was called at all, right? You can’t expect refs to randomly call a major penalty in a spot where they didn’t think anything happened at all. Fix the system, fine, but I don’t want refs just creating penalties out of thin air under any circumstances. That’s a recipe for disaster… it would probably satisfy the gambling overlords though. 

I actually didn’t see the game. I thought someone said they called a minor. I agree, if they didn’t think it warranted a penalty, so be it.

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, shrader said:

If I’m following this correctly, no penalty was called at all, right? You can’t expect refs to randomly call a major penalty in a spot where they didn’t think anything happened at all. Fix the system, fine, but I don’t want refs just creating penalties out of thin air under any circumstances. That’s a recipe for disaster… it would probably satisfy the gambling overlords though. 

All that blood and nothing happened?  

 I  see refs call something and then review it for major/minor all the time. It’s happened at least twice in Sabres games this season. 

[Taro T]

4 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

All that blood and nothing happened?  

 I  see refs call something and then review it for major/minor all the time. It’s happened at least twice in Sabres games this season. 

But, that's the issue.  Neither ref called anything on the play.