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9 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Does anyone else besides me think that if we weren't down our 3, 4, 5, and 6th F and Dahlin was actually able to be Dahlin, that we'd be in a playoff spot right now?

The only one I could maybe fault the team for is the #3 being down given his long injury history... Though are we any better with Cozens playing?

It's true that the reasons for firing everyone go way back prior to this season, so there's that, but I kind of think this team when healthy could be good. Unfortunately, we'll be way too far back for it to matter if we ever do get everyone back 

“Is a gaping hole at C really worse than the guy the GM signed for 7 years 50 million?” is an odd flex 

Posted
7 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

So Kesselring likes that fans are pretty critical? He likes "the other side of it" that is not nice and not positive?

He's been hearing it from the guys who canceled the stick raise. Have the fans even booed as much this year?

Right in one 

Posted
12 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

There's only 1 way to fix this and Pegula doesn't have the balls to do it. You go through this list and fire 75% of these people. You fire everyone who's been here for 10+ years. Some won't deserve it, you are right, but at this point it is about a hard reset. 

Senior Advisor Jarmo Kekalainen

Special Asst. to General Manager Eric Staal

Associate General Manager Jason Karmanos

Assistant General Manager Mark Jakubowski

Assistant General Manager Jerry Forton

VP of Hockey Strategy and Research Sam Ventura

Director of Pro Scouting Jeremiah Crowe

Assistant Director of Amateur Scouting Jason Nightingale

Scout Craig Anderson

Scout Graham Beamish

Scout Kevin Devine

Scout Brad Dexter

Scout Austin Dunne

Scout Justin Falk

Scout Anders Forsberg

Scout Frank Musil

Scout Tristan Musser

Scout Ruslan Pechonkin

Scout Marty Stein

Scout Lukas Sutter

Scout Tommi Vesanen

Data Engineer Matt Barlowe

Data Scientist Domenic Galamini, Jr.

Manager of Hockey Technology/Team Operations Kyle Kiebzak

Coordinator of Team Operations Hunter Kelly

Manager of Hockey Administration Brett Ruff

Executive Assistant Terri O'Brien

COACHING STAFF

Head Coach Lindy Ruff

Assistant Coach Seth Appert

Assistant Coach Mike Bales

Assistant Coach Matt Ellis

Assistant Coach Marty Wilford

Video Coach Justin White

Video Coordinator Amir Gulati

Skating and Skills Instructor Mike Ansell

Why no Kevyn Adams though?! Not enough time on task to properly evaluate? wtf lol

Posted

It doesn't seem to have been taken out context. I mean, he said it. The context was how are things going in Buffalo for the former Utah players.

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While he likes it in Buffalo, he does miss the unconditional love he experienced in Utah.

“The fans were unbelievable to me and Doaner last year. That was honestly probably one of the hardest parts, too, other than (leaving) the guys. We had such a good fan base here. It was so nice just seeing all the positive things all the time. I could do no wrong. You see the other side of it now in a hockey market. They’re pretty critical.”

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It is what it is.

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In fairness to the comment, he does acknowledge that this is a "hockey market". That is something that has to be remembered and maybe the league needs to think about and go talk to Terry. Destroying an actual hockey market takes a lot of work and he's frakking it good. 

He isn't used to the fans being critical because he doesn't relate to 15 years of futility in an actual hockey market and how much that hurts. This happens with every new guy they bring in. They only relate to their own time frames. I don't think any of them stop and think "oh my god, for that guy in the stands it's 15 years". Nobody in the organization takes ownership of that and so it continues. 

 

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Posted
16 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Does anyone else besides me think that if we weren't down our 3, 4, 5, and 6th F and Dahlin was actually able to be Dahlin, that we'd be in a playoff spot right now?

The only one I could maybe fault the team for is the #3 being down given his long injury history... Though are we any better with Cozens playing?

It's true that the reasons for firing everyone go way back prior to this season, so there's that, but I kind of think this team when healthy could be good. Unfortunately, we'll be way too far back for it to matter if we ever do get everyone back 

Nope

Posted
9 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

It doesn't seem to have been taken out context. I mean, he said it. The context was how are things going in Buffalo for the former Utah players.

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While he likes it in Buffalo, he does miss the unconditional love he experienced in Utah.

“The fans were unbelievable to me and Doaner last year. That was honestly probably one of the hardest parts, too, other than (leaving) the guys. We had such a good fan base here. It was so nice just seeing all the positive things all the time. I could do no wrong. You see the other side of it now in a hockey market. They’re pretty critical.”

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It is what it is.

The Utah market will get there someday. They are in their honeymoon phase. A market that has suffered 15 years of incompetence is going to be critical and dark. 

Posted
9 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

It doesn't seem to have been taken out context. I mean, he said it. The context was how are things going in Buffalo for the former Utah players.

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While he likes it in Buffalo, he does miss the unconditional love he experienced in Utah.

“The fans were unbelievable to me and Doaner last year. That was honestly probably one of the hardest parts, too, other than (leaving) the guys. We had such a good fan base here. It was so nice just seeing all the positive things all the time. I could do no wrong. You see the other side of it now in a hockey market. They’re pretty critical.”

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It is what it is.

What it is is a nothingburger. 

He went from a place were the fans still do not know the nuances game, they were actually cheering for calls made against them in Utah.    

In Buffalo things are a lot different.   In Buffalo one mistake in a home game can set the entire building off.  The fans know the game and they deserve better.  

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