What does the Tuch trade look like?

[Crusader1969]

If he’s not already sitting at the top of TSN’s trade board, he will be soon.

The only Tuch chatter I’ve heard has come out of Vancouver media, and yeah — I get that his wife is from the area.

 

But I’m not interested in draft picks coming back.

The question is whether you can turn Tuch into a return similar to what they got for JJP.

[LGR4GM]

11 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

If he’s not already sitting at the top of TSN’s trade board, he will be soon.

The only Tuch chatter I’ve heard has come out of Vancouver media, and yeah — I get that his wife is from the area.

 

But I’m not interested in draft picks coming back.

The question is whether you can turn Tuch into a return similar to what they got for JJP.

You can't really do the jjp trade in season. 

You're talking a young player who's on the cusp of breaking out or is a high end prospect, a 1st, and some type of cap return. 

[mjd1001]

It might be tricky to make the money work, but with having McDavid likely for only 2.5 years left, being out of the playoffs right now, and coming off a 9-1 loss over the weekend, Edmonton may be desperate to make a move in the coming weeks.

If anything, play Vancouver vs Edmonton (and anyone else for that matter) to drive up the price.

[LGR4GM]

10 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

It might be tricky to make the money work, but with having McDavid likely for only 2.5 years left, being out of the playoffs right now, and coming off a 9-1 loss over the weekend, Edmonton may be desperate to make a move in the coming weeks.

If anything, play Vancouver vs Edmonton (and anyone else for that matter) to drive up the price.

Edmonton is a tricky one. They system sucks, they don't have a first, and they have a bunch of guys on ltir.

[Archie Lee]

To Seattle for Kappo Kakko and a 1st (Seattle has their own and Tampa’s). Seattle wants to get back in the playoffs so they trade for the better player. It’s cap neutral this year for Seattle, and they have space to extend Tuch. Sabres try to thread the needle by getting a good younger, but lesser, player who is under contract for two additional seasons, along with the futures. Kakko’s contract means the Sabres can extend Benson, Doan, Kesselring and still have space to add a significant player through trade or free agency. Kakko has no trade protection. 

[Brawndo]

Utah for one of Igilna, Desnoyers or But and the lowest of the three seconds they have

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

If he’s not already sitting at the top of TSN’s trade board, he will be soon.

The only Tuch chatter I’ve heard has come out of Vancouver media, and yeah — I get that his wife is from the area.

 

But I’m not interested in draft picks coming back.

The question is whether you can turn Tuch into a return similar to what they got for JJP.

That's not going to happen. A deadline deal will involve pick(s) or prospects. maybe a roster player they don't want for salary reasons but you don't really want that guy either long term. Maybe you have to take him (like Bruins had to take Mittelstadt) for their cap but what you get will be futures and not good roster players. 

Ideally you can hope for a really good prospect like the Bruins got in Minten on the Carlo trade. If I remember correctly they got Minten, a first and a 4th. Different type of player obviously but I think you can look for something similar for Tuch. Hard to get more unless they trade and sign which seems unlikely.That's a good haul though. Sabres could use a guy like Minten. 

[Two or less]

 

If im Sabres, im calling the Kings and seeing what are they thinking about Quinton Byfield and offering Tuch one for one.

Byfield is having a poor season. 2G and they might be thinking he needs a change of scenery. A player like Tuch could be very useful to them if they face Oilers again.

Byfield is still just 23.

[SabreFinn]

To Devils for a 1st and Seamus Casey. Then trade Power and/or Byram for a top 6 center/left winger.

[Doohickie]

5 hours ago, Two or less said:

Byfield is having a poor season. 2G and they might be thinking he needs a change of scenery.

I dunno, not sure coming to Buffalo will give his career the boost you're talking about.

[LGR4GM]

San Jose or Anaheim would be the teams I look to. Columbus as well. 

Actually CBJ might be a good one because Tuch might be willing to sign an extension. 

[Flashsabre]

10 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Edmonton is a tricky one. They system sucks, they don't have a first, and they have a bunch of guys on ltir.

It would be so Adams to trade Tuch to Edmonton for Matthew Savoie😛

[LGR4GM]

Could grab Luca Del Bel Belluz and stuff from cbj.

[JohnC]

If Tuch is dealt, it is unlikely the immediate return will make this a better team, at least for the near term. Even if the return is getting an appealing young player back, the already young Sabre roster won't be much better. It would not surprise me if Tuch rides out his contract and puts himself in a situation where he can test the market. What will the front office do? If it doesn't believe it can get a deal done, they will deal the approaching free agent player for a discounted value. This scenario has played out before as the Reinhart deal illustrated. How do you think that Dahlin and Tage will respond to the roster setback? I can see the same "Jack" get me the freak out of here scenario playing out again. Continued disfunction and incompetence are the hallmark of this cartoonish franchise.

[Pimlach]

So we are trading Tuch now??? 

why would anyone entertain this rumor?   I don’t want Adams trading anybody.   Fire Adams and let the new GM handle  the roster.  

Edited November 11 by Pimlach

[#freejame]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

So we are trading Tuch now??? 

why would anyone entertain this rumor?   I don’t want Adams trading anybody.   Fire Adams and let the new GM handle  the roster.  

What’s the odds of Terry firing Adams mid season? 

[Pimlach]

8 minutes ago, #freejame said:

What’s the odds of Terry firing Adams mid season? 

Terry has his next GM sitting right there.  Do you think Terry will spend the time to interview GMs if he replaces Adams?  

He didn't do that when he fired Boterill.  

Unless Terry decides he does not like or trust him, Jarmo is the next GM.  

[GASabresIUFAN]

How about we trade Tuch, get some assets and then re-signing him in the offseason 

We then trade Power, the 1st we get for Tuch and get a good goalie and top 6 center and a good defensive D, but Adams needs to go first.

[Doohickie]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

Jarmo is the next GM.  

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

How about we trade Tuch, get some assets and then re-signing him in the offseason 

We then trade Power, the 1st we get for Tuch and get a good goalie and top 6 center and a good defensive D, but Adams needs to go first.

We can make up lots of stuff here on fan message boards. 

 

[Captain Caveman]

how do you feel about matt savoie?

[Pimlach]

2 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

how do you feel about matt savoie?

17 games, 1 goal, 2 points, -7   pretty much not a factor so far.  

I feel that McLeod was better for this team, and we needed immediate help at C, and we still do.  

[Captain Caveman]

5 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

17 games, 1 goal, 2 points, -7   pretty much not a factor so far.  

I feel that McLeod was better for this team, and we needed immediate help at C, and we still do.  

yeah, mostly joking, but if we're looking for some combination of NHL ready (or near NHL ready) rather than picks I feel like that's the kind of guy we can expect back - 

Maybe Savoie and a 1st for Tuch?   Which wouldn't excite me, but teams that are buyers aren't usually giving up good NHL pieces in rerturn.

[LGR4GM]

42 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

how do you feel about matt savoie?

I feel glad we traded him. 

[Taro T]

7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I feel glad we traded him. 

One of Adams rare wins.