Here we go again…..Kevyn

[JP51]

On 11/13/2025 at 3:57 AM, Alaska John said:

I don't necessarily want Pegula to sell the team.  I want him to be a good owner who spends to the cap every year and who doesn't tolerate continued front office failure.

I think this is what we honestly all want... its just that after 14 years expecting him to actually change that radically seems a bit of a farce... but certainly if he was able to and bring in the appropriate people to run it and get results I am not sure you would have any objections from this board. 

[Cityo'Rasmii]

[inkman]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

In that same segment Hamilton whines about ppl wanting to power to hit... no Paul, we want power to play good hockey. 

I don't want Adams looking at anyone. He needs to be fired, now. 

To be fair, there is a large segment of Sabres fans that refuse to measure Owen Power on any metric other than hitting. 

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, inkman said:

To be fair, there is a large segment of Sabres fans that refuse to measure Owen Power on any metric other than hitting. 

Which is hilarious because if you drew a circle of those ppl and the ppl who think size equals toughness, there would be only 1 circle.

[kas23]

I find it nuts (but probably not) that Arizona was a garbage team for awhile, they get a new owner/location and suddenly they are one of the better teams in the league. Is this just a cloud of a bad owner being lifted? Were they going to breakout anyway?

[Doohickie]

From the GDT of the last Sabres win:

  

On 11/2/2025 at 1:14 PM, Doohickie said:

On 11/2/2025 at 5:55 AM, LGR4GM said:

Idc what you call it. Buffalo is currently near the bottom of the eastern conference and if the draft were right now they'd draft 9th overall. Glad we won, we aren't good enough and Kevyn should add to the team. 

If you think of this season so far as two seasons, the Sabres got 0.000 standings points in the first 3 games.

In the last nine games they got 13 / 18 possible points, or 72.2%.

If the last nine games are what the Sabres really are, the get 72.2% of 158 possible points (164 total, minus 6 for the 3 game losing streak to start the season).  That is a 114 point season.

Are they the team that lost three at the start?  Hopefully not anymore.  Are they the team that got 13 points in their last 9 games?  I find it hard to believe they will sustain that pace to be honest, but if they're more like the team of the last 9 games and less like the team of the 3 game start, the Buffalo Sabres will be in the playoffs.

I said it earlier:  The 0-3 start lit a fire under them.  They started out behind, but they rose to the challenge (so far) and have played good hockey since then.  Hopefully they fully overcome the slow start, and the Sabres that accomplish that are the Sabres we see for the rest of the season.

Of course another 3 game pointless streak would wash all that down the drain.  But I'm optimistic.  The team is playing better as a team than they have in recent seasons.

@LGR4GM was right.  And I was so foolishly optimistic.

[LGR4GM]

That just makes me sad.

[zow2]

6 minutes ago, kas23 said:

I find it nuts (but probably not) that Arizona was a garbage team for awhile, they get a new owner/location and suddenly they are one of the better teams in the league. Is this just a cloud of a bad owner being lifted? Were they going to breakout anyway?

That's why i want new ownership. I'll take my chances that they would keep the team in Buffalo or not. 

A new owner would just luck their way into a better situation here, much like previous Sabres owners did. 

[mjd1001]

If we can put aside the pursuit of the playoffs for a moment, I have said/argued in the past I can get some enjoyment out of watching a non-playoff team on a nightly basis and enjoying a win. If they don't make the playoffs, but they win a game and play well, its 2 hours of entertainment, right?

Great, but they have now not had a single regulation win in 9 games.  8 of those are losses.

How can you even be a fan of a team if you are WILLING to give up on the playoffs and just watch them looking for a 'feel good' win, when over the last few weeks you have gotten: 

Loss

Loss

Loss

Shootout W (not even a 'game' win but awarded it based on a skills contest)

Loss

Loss

Loss

Loss

Loss

I am having a hard time watching this team at all.

THIS is why they have to blow things up.  Total, 100% new front office.  Entire roster up for Auction.  I'm ready for another multi-year teardown run by a new front office and rebuild because they may lose during it (not any different than what we have now) but at least I can push myself to have some 'hope'.

[Archie Lee]

1 minute ago, mjd1001 said:

If we can put aside the pursuit of the playoffs for a moment, I have said/argued in the past I can get some enjoyment out of watching a non-playoff team on a nightly basis and enjoying a win. If they don't make the playoffs, but they win a game and play well, its 2 hours of entertainment, right?

Great, but they have now not had a single regulation win in 9 games.  8 of those are losses.

How can you even be a fan of a team if you are WILLING to give up on the playoffs and just watch them looking for a 'feel good' win, when over the last few weeks you have gotten: 

Loss

Loss

Loss

Shootout W (not even a 'game' win but awarded it based on a skills contest)

Loss

Loss

Loss

Loss

Loss

I am having a hard time watching this team at all.

THIS is why they have to blow things up.  Total, 100% new front office.  Entire roster up for Auction.  I'm ready for another multi-year teardown run by a new front office and rebuild because they may lose during it (not any different than what we have now) but at least I can push myself to have some 'hope'.

I’m with you up until “Entire roster up for auction”. Just my opinion, but it would be some kind of next level negligent mismanagement to “blow-up” a team that is the 2nd youngest in the NHL by age, and the least experienced by games played. If that happens, the NHL should immediately confiscate the keys to the franchise from Pegula. 

I get your larger point though. I enjoyed watching, for the most part, the 2021-2022 Sabres, who finished with 75 points. That was Granato’s first full year. There were definitely some very rough spots through that season, but generally they were a young developing team that played with energy and heart and with some genuine joy for the game. That is long gone. But we don’t need blow-up the roster, we need to bring in a new GM and Head Coach who start stacking competent moves on top of competent moves (some player movement will be part of that, of course). The energy, heart, and joy will follow, once you have people in charge doing things right. 

[mjd1001]

17 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I’m with you up until “Entire roster up for auction”. Just my opinion, but it would be some kind of next level negligent mismanagement to “blow-up” a team that is the 2nd youngest in the NHL by age, and the least experienced by games played. If that happens, the NHL should immediately confiscate the keys to the franchise from Pegula. 

I get your larger point though. I enjoyed watching, for the most part, the 2021-2022 Sabres, who finished with 75 points. That was Granato’s first full year. There were definitely some very rough spots through that season, but generally they were a young developing team that played with energy and heart and with some genuine joy for the game. That is long gone. But we don’t need blow-up the roster, we need to bring in a new GM and Head Coach who start stacking competent moves on top of competent moves (some player movement will be part of that, of course). The energy, heart, and joy will follow, once you have people in charge doing things right. 

Well, I'm not saying to give everyone away when I say 'up for auction'. 

Its more, whatever new 'front office' comes in, there is nothing off limits. Sure they may not want to trade Dahlin, but see what is out there.  You can always say no. But guys like Tage and Tuch, they arne't getting better, you are at their statistical peak.  IF a new front office comes in and realistically is making changes that mean the team is 2 years from competing...maybe you listen to offers for those guys if you can maximize their value now in relation to what they will be at the end of the 'plan'.

So when I say entire roster up for auction, I mean that. See what is out there for EVERYONE...that does't mean you make all those moves. But you don't hang up the phone on anyone, and maybe you pick up the phone and put everyone out there just to see what they are worth.

[zow2]

43 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

THIS is why they have to blow things up.  Total, 100% new front office.  Entire roster up for Auction.  I'm ready for another multi-year teardown run by a new front office and rebuild because they may lose during it (not any different than what we have now) but at least I can push myself to have some 'hope'.

I agree with this.  You can't fire a coach and keep the GM, etc.. or vice versa.  When you blow it up, everyone has to go.  The Sabres need to do something so out of the box that it's jaw dropping.  Start this thing all over like an expansion team that is brand new.  They would have to keep a few players but overall, yes trade anyone on the roster that can get good value in return.

[Flashsabre]

Knowing Adams he was scouting LA to overpay for Kempe who will demand out by year’s end

[LGR4GM]

It is not just about firing Kevyn Adams. Jerry Forton, Nightengale, Devine, all need to go. It isn't just that Adams is awful and terrible at his job, the people who work with him are also terrible at their jobs. 

[mjd1001]

6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

It is not just about firing Kevyn Adams. Jerry Forton, Nightengale, Devine, all need to go. It isn't just that Adams is awful and terrible at his job, the people who work with him are also terrible at their jobs. 

For the last year I have agreed with that 100%.  

First, it seems apparent that Adams is not a dictator, it appears he gathers his top advisors around when they make a decision and they all have input. So this roster is not just a result of Adams decision making, but those other guys have all had input into putting this roster together.

Next, I want no one left around that can look at this roster and look at any player and think anything close to 'thats my guy'.  I want whoever comes in to have no attachment to the current players. 

The funny thing is, many of us who never talked like this in the past are discussing "just how big will the purge of the front office be"?  There's still a chance nothing will change.

Edited just now by mjd1001