GDT: Capitals @ Sabres, 7:00pm Nov. 1, 2025, 🎙 📺 ESPN+/MSG

[Pimlach]

4 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

That's 5-7.

 

Alternately, to look at it in points: The Sabres have 13 points in twelve games. Their opponents have 14 points in those same twelve games. That's a losing record.

This is the way to look at it. Especially since every team that we lost to was in the division or conference.  
 

13 points out of 24 possible gets you 88 points in a season. Out of the playoffs.  Do not think this is adequate.  

[Doohickie]

2 minutes ago, clink said:

Win % aside, they have a different feel to them, this season 

I mean, they still booger it up on occasion BUT they are also showing signs of putting it all together

This is the most optimistic I've felt about our beloved Sabres in, IDK how long? 

They're good enough.  They're just having problems with consistency.  They're closer to playing a full 60 minute game but not there yet.  I'm almost willing to give them a pass due to the injuries they've been dealing with.

I will say, Greenway imposed his will on the game while he was out there, even if it was primarily with physicality.

Edited 20 hours ago by Doohickie

[PromoTheRobot]

It was great to be at KBC with 19,700 in the house seeing a W.

[Sabres73]

1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

This is the way to look at it. Especially since every team that we lost to was in the division or conference.  
 

13 points out of 24 possible gets you 88 points in a season. Out of the playoffs.  Do not think this is adequate.  

I said they're over .500. I didn't talk about their record over the season. They are over .500. There's not any other "way to look at it". It's a fact.

[Doohickie]

I also feel more comfortable rolling 4 lines than I have in a long time.

[rickshaw]

There are small signs they are getting there but I think a solid move or two could propel them.

[DarthEbriate]

5 minutes ago, Sabres73 said:

No, it's 5 wins, 4 losses and 3 OTLS. 12 games, 13 points. That's over .500. The twisting to not acknowledge this is amusing.

I don't acknowledge "NHL .500" because it is valueless.

There are currently six teams in the entire league below NHL .500.

You want to be in the playoffs, you need the DeLuca. You need to out-point your opponents.

[Pimlach]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Okay, Miss Priss.

Look who is talking.  13 points out of 24 is not going to work. Playing hair over 500 is falling short. 

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[JohnC]

I liked the play of the Quinn/Krebs/Rosen line. They played fast, hard and aggressive in the offensive zone.

Greenway is not fancy but is a big guy who plays big. 
 

Hopefully, this game will be a confidence builder for UPL.

We needed this game. The Sabres were backpedaling while the Caps were the aggressors at the end of the game. 
 

Glad to get a win in front of a big crowd.

[Sabres73]

Just now, DarthEbriate said:

I don't acknowledge "NHL .500" because it is valueless.

There are currently six teams in the entire league below NHL .500.

You want to be in the playoffs, you need the DeLuca. You need to out-point your opponents.

I'm wasn't talking about wanting to be in the playoffs. I was talking about our record being over .500. Which you've acknowledged by saying six teams are under .500. This isn't overly complicated.

[K-9]

4 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

I also feel more comfortable rolling 4 lines than I have in a long time.

Gotta get Kozak back.

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Seasons past those three points probably would not be points at all.

[Doohickie]

1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

Look who is talking.  13 points out of 24 is not going to work. Playing hair over 500 is falling short. 

True.

I know you can't just throw away games, but are the Sabres the team that was 0-3 to start the season, or the team that has gathered points at a 72% clip since then?  If we accept that latter, then we're looking at a 114 point team.

Truth is, they're somewhere in between.  They're not as bad as their start, and not as good as their last 9 games.

I like the trend though.

5 minutes ago, ... said:

Seasons past those three points probably would not be points at all.

Yes, a few loser points can be (and has been) the difference between making the playoffs or not.

[PromoTheRobot]

6 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Look who is talking.  13 points out of 24 is not going to work. Playing hair over 500 is falling short. 

Was this game #82? No? Then relax. 

[clink]

3 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

They're good enough.  They're just having problems with consistency.  They're closer to playing a full 60 minute game but not there yet.  I'm almost willing to give them a pass due to the injuries they've been dealing with.

I will say, Greenway imposed his will on the game while he was out there, even if it was primarily with physicality.

Totally! 

Hopefully, as they win more games like tonight's, where in previous seasons they'd, likely lose, they start to believe in themselves AND in each other. 

That belief will begin to show up in their game, which will help build momentum, which will lead to the consistency/tenacity/drive which, ultimately, will lead to breaking this God-awful playoff drought 

[DarthEbriate]

Just now, Sabres73 said:

I'm wasn't talking about wanting to be in the playoffs. I was talking about our record being over .500. Which you've acknowledged by saying six teams are under .500. This isn't overly complicated.

I said six teams are under "NHL .500". This is an important distinction because NHL .500 is a fabricated term that tries to combine two different systems: W/L and loser points that impact points percentage. They're not the same units of measure.

 

True .500 = W/L. How many have they won? 5. How many have they lost? 7. That's it. That's what .500 is.

NHL .500 is a fabrication that allows GMs/coaches/fans to ignore losses if they choose. It's useless. Like I said: Six of 32 teams are below NHL .500. 

[HumanSlinky39]

Really happy about the win but can we please, PLEASE figure out the power play and what to do 3-on-3? I'm assuming it's all Appert's department and it is an embarrassment. If they could get decent in those situations they just might be a pretty damn good team.

[PromoTheRobot]

Since 0-3:

5-1-3

Points in 8 of 9 games.

[PerreaultForever]

Really lucky they got it to the shootout. The OT was horrible. So passive for the most part. No idea what they were trying to do there but they escaped it. 

Shoot out UPL raises his stock again? idk. 

Most interesting thing to me was Greenway. What exactly was that core surgery? Bionics? Knee on knee hits (twice) last game. Head shot this game. Decked Wilson and fought Wilson to a draw. This is the Greenway we hoped to get when they made the trade but it wasn't the Greenway we had before. I don't know what's changed here but he's changed and it adds a needed component, even if some of the hits were pretty dirty. 

It's just interesting to me how the team might actually be getting tougher and more normal compared to other teams. I didn't expect that this year with this roster. 

Rosen was okay. Those young guys have speed and skill. See how it develops going forward. 

It's good to win. 

[Sabres73]

Just now, DarthEbriate said:

I said six teams are under "NHL .500". This is an important distinction because NHL .500 is a fabricated term that tries to combine two different systems: W/L and loser points that impact points percentage. They're not the same units of measure.

 

True .500 = W/L. How many have they won? 5. How many have they lost? 7. That's it. That's what .500 is.

NHL .500 is a fabrication that allows GMs/coaches/fans to ignore losses if they choose. It's useless. Like I said: Six of 32 teams are below NHL .500. 

I disagree. If you have more points than games played, you're over .500. Full stop. This seems to be a weird hill to die on after a Sabres win.

[Doohickie]

4 minutes ago, clink said:

That belief will begin to show up in their game, which will help build momentum, which will lead to the consistency/tenacity/drive which, ultimately, will lead to breaking this God-awful playoff drought 

I will say this:  Even in the sequences where they were fighting it and the Caps were carrying the play, they were a lot harder to play against than in years past.  Better positioning, better sticks on the lanes, more determination on loose pucks and even if they lost them, being disruptive enough that Washington had trouble doing anything with the puck.

[OverPowerYou]

27 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

I see this a lot here. What’s the story behind this one??

[Doohickie]

Just now, OverPowerYou said:

I see this a lot here. What’s the story behind this one??

In conversation, it's kind of a verbal tick that Rayzor has.  Other announcer:  "The team played well this period."  Rayzor:  "No, you're right."  

I think he doesn't do it as much as he used to, but he earned that meme.

6 minutes ago, Sabres73 said:

I disagree. If you have more points than games played, you're over .500. Full stop. This seems to be a weird hill to die on after a Sabres win.

And yet here you are, dying on it.

[PromoTheRobot]

11 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Really lucky they got it to the shootout. The OT was horrible. So passive for the most part. No idea what they were trying to do there but they escaped it. 

Shoot out UPL raises his stock again? idk. 

Most interesting thing to me was Greenway. What exactly was that core surgery? Bionics? Knee on knee hits (twice) last game. Head shot this game. Decked Wilson and fought Wilson to a draw. This is the Greenway we hoped to get when they made the trade but it wasn't the Greenway we had before. I don't know what's changed here but he's changed and it adds a needed component, even if some of the hits were pretty dirty. 

It's just interesting to me how the team might actually be getting tougher and more normal compared to other teams. I didn't expect that this year with this roster. 

Rosen was okay. Those young guys have speed and skill. See how it develops going forward. 

It's good to win. 

Actually Rosen looked quite good. He was involved in the play and went to the net often.

Greenway introduced himself to half of the Caps. 😂

Watching Ovi, especially on the power play, he's a total slug. The reason the Sabres were able to clear the zone on his point was because he barely tried to stop the puck. Ovi only exerts himself when he's getting in position for a one-timer.

Edited 19 hours ago by PromoTheRobot