Big Guava Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, clink said: It's the subtitles (like, what you've mentioned, above) that are now positives, that have been negatives in (recent) seasons pastย If enough of these become positives, good things will come (I hope ๐)ย The PK has been a revelation ย 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Really lucky they got it to the shootout. The OT was horrible. So passive for the most part. No idea what they were trying to do there but they escaped it.ย Shoot out UPL raises his stock again? idk.ย Most interesting thing to me was Greenway. What exactly was that core surgery? Bionics? Knee on knee hits (twice) last game. Head shot this game. Decked Wilson and fought Wilson to a draw. This is the Greenway we hoped to get when they made the trade but it wasn't the Greenway we had before. I don't know what's changed here but he's changed and it adds a needed component, even if some of the hits were pretty dirty.ย It's just interesting to me how the team might actually be getting tougher and more normal compared to other teams. I didn't expect that this year with this roster.ย Rosen was okay. Those young guys have speed and skill. See how it develops going forward.ย It's good to win.ย Lindy Ruff Greenway Quote
North Buffalo Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I wouldn't call him a slug, he's still a dangerous scorer, but he does have limited usefulness now. Well past his prime.ย I mean Ovi skated slower than I do during old man beer league. Quote
LGR4GM Posted 6 hours ago Author Report Posted 6 hours ago Idc what you call it. Buffalo is currently near the bottom of the eastern conference and if the draft were right now they'd draft 9th overall. Glad we won, we aren't good enough and Kevyn should add to the team.ย 2 Quote
North Buffalo Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago Ps UPL looks like he'a trying to kick out more rebound a la Lyon but neither controls them well nor seems to know when it'd be better to freeze pucks to stop play. Quote
Shoot da Puck Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago (edited) This team is only 5 ties away from first Edited 6 hours ago by Shoot da Puck 5 Quote
shrader Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 51 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Idc what you call it. Buffalo is currently near the bottom of the eastern conference and if the draft were right now they'd draft 9th overall. Glad we won, we aren't good enough and Kevyn should add to the team.ย Itโs so ridiculously early for a standings assessment like that. Just look at how many teams they leap frog with one single win. In the big picture, would that one win really mean all that much? What does matter is that they dug themselves a big hole to start and have rebounded nicely from it. Can they keep that going and continue to climb? Quote
JohnC Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Idc what you call it. Buffalo is currently near the bottom of the eastern conference and if the draft were right now they'd draft 9th overall. Glad we won, we aren't good enough and Kevyn should add to the team.ย If Norris returns that will be the add. The Sabres are basically a fringe wild-card team. Any impactful add will require a meaningful subtraction that will basically not advance the needle. This is a KA constructed team. What you are is what you are.ย 1 Quote
Night Train Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago Sabres have closed out 5 games out of 12. So they still need to improve A LOT.ย ย Still in that frame of mind that an actual win is somewhat surprising.ย ย Quote
Archie Lee Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, JohnC said: If Norris returns that will be the add. The Sabres are basically a fringe wild-card team. Any impactful add will require a meaningful subtraction that will basically not advance the needle. This is a KA constructed team. What you are is what you are.ย I donโt agree with the premise that trading value for value results in treading-water rather than progress. Obviously, itโs not a guarantee of progress. But, if you trade value from a position of strength in exchange for something valuable that is missing, it can be quite impactful. Apprehension over Adams ability to recognize and execute such a move is fair, though.ย 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 10 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Really lucky they got it to the shootout. The OT was horrible. So passive for the most part. No idea what they were trying to do there but they escaped it.ย Shoot out UPL raises his stock again? idk.ย Most interesting thing to me was Greenway. What exactly was that core surgery? Bionics? Knee on knee hits (twice) last game. Head shot this game. Decked Wilson and fought Wilson to a draw. This is the Greenway we hoped to get when they made the trade but it wasn't the Greenway we had before. I don't know what's changed here but he's changed and it adds a needed component, even if some of the hits were pretty dirty.ย It's just interesting to me how the team might actually be getting tougher and more normal compared to other teams. I didn't expect that this year with this roster.ย Rosen was okay. Those young guys have speed and skill. See how it develops going forward.ย It's good to win.ย Did you see why they were "passive?" Dahlin and Thompson were caught out there for minutes. In fact Tage got felled by a blocked shot and gutted it out because he couldn't get to the bench. It was 3-on-2 for a while the Caps were able to change the times!!! 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Idc what you call it. Buffalo is currently near the bottom of the eastern conference and if the draft were right now they'd draft 9th overall. Glad we won, we aren't good enough and Kevyn should add to the team.ย Always look for the cloud in the silver lining. Do you derive sustenance from being negative?ย We are 1 point out of a playoff spot and 5 points from the top spot in the conference. ย 2 Quote
JohnC Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Archie Lee said: I donโt agree with the premise that trading value for value results in treading-water rather than progress. Obviously, itโs not a guarantee of progress. But, if you trade value from a position of strength in exchange for something valuable that is missing, it can be quite impactful. Apprehension over Adams ability to recognize and execute such a move is fair, though.ย What position of strength and abundance do we have on the roster to deal to recalibrate it? ย Usually, a reshaping deal is done in the offseason. In my view, the most impactful player transaction would be getting back Norris. And as you noted, Iโm not confident in our current GM making such a deal, especially when he feels pressure to do so.ย Quote
That Aud Smell Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: We are 1 point out of a playoff spot and 5 points from the top spot in the conference. East looks wide open and fairly mediocre this season. Claw back to true .500 and go from there (5-7 currently). Itโs probably been posted upthread (I was in the arena and didnโt post or follow), but Dahlin looks like a shell of himself. Edited 4 hours ago by That Aud Smell 1 Quote
That Aud Smell Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago lol - i see a robust โwhat is .500โ debate ensued upthread. i look only at true .500 as a threshold for being good because, if you ainโt there, you need the stars to align to make the playoffs. plus, i wonโt toe the line for gary bettmanโs loser point parity project. 1 Quote
inkman Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 21 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: East looks wide open and fairly mediocre this season. Claw back to true .500 and go from there (5-7 currently). Itโs probably been posted upthread (I was in the arena and didnโt post or follow), but Dahlin looks like a shell of himself. Idk, Dahlin always kinda looks like this, itโs just slightly worse this seasonย 1 Quote
Freeezo Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, shrader said: Itโs so ridiculously early for a standings assessment like that. Just look at how many teams they leap frog with one single win. In the big picture, would that one win really mean all that much? What does matter is that they dug themselves a big hole to start and have rebounded nicely from it. Can they keep that going and continue to climb? Is it just me or are crowds at home games alot bigger? Quote
LGR4GM Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 47 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Always look for the cloud in the silver lining. Do you derive sustenance from being negative?ย We are 1 point out of a playoff spot and 5 points from the top spot in the conference. ย I think making this personal like that, is lazy, low, and shows your true colors. Edited 3 hours ago by LGR4GM 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, shrader said: Itโs so ridiculously early for a standings assessment like that. Just look at how many teams they leap frog with one single win. In the big picture, would that one win really mean all that much? What does matter is that they dug themselves a big hole to start and have rebounded nicely from it. Can they keep that going and continue to climb? Sure, but that's one win less over 10 games which is 8 wins less over a season. I'd love to have more faith but after 14yrs, they gotta prove it.ย We'll see what the next 10 games holds.ย Quote
That Aud Smell Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 15 minutes ago, inkman said: Idk, Dahlin always kinda looks like this, itโs just slightly worse this seasonย Ehhh. Disagree. Weโre missing those all world flourishes, for one. 9 minutes ago, Freeezo said: Is it just me or are crowds at home games alot bigger? Seems that way. Great crowd last night, for sure. 8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I think making this personal like that, is lazy, low, and shows your true colors. Thatโs not a โnoโ though, is it? ๐คฃ Quote
Jorcus Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago A few random comments about the game. Sabres are certainly tougher to play against this year. Dahlin may not be playing great but he is not hurting you on defense and you add that to all the rest of them it's pretty stout. If Power is your weak link I think any other team would wish for that top 6. Sabres still have a problem scoring on the a+ chances the generate. You have to think at least one night they will all go in. The Quinn, Kulich, Rosen line was good in the O zone but had trouble in the D zone. That was a tough test against Washington. Ovi is quickly becoming and anchor. He will get his goal but I expect the ice time is going to be less and less. UPL was fighting the puck in the first half of the game but did settle down. Even the first goal was bit of a mess when Byram moved the puck up the wall I think he hit the refs skate and it caused a turnover with everyone of of position. They were not able to overcome the scramble. The second goal Power cheated in the zone, No one covered the vacated point and Washington just sent the puck to open ice. Third was a hard bouncer. The Sabres have really got to focus on getting that 4th goal. It's hard to win with three anymore.ย ย ย Quote
LGR4GM Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Ehhh. Disagree. Weโre missing those all world flourishes, for one. Seems that way. Great crowd last night, for sure. Thatโs not a โnoโ though, is it? ๐คฃ Truthfully?ย I see some good with Buffalo. They certainly are a better checking team and the defense doesn't make me want to gouge my soul out. Kesselring is as advertised which I love. Finally prospects don't have roster spots unless injuries occur. The PK deserves praise. Lyon and to an extent Ellis and potentially Luukkonen have been solid to really good.ย Quote
Pimlach Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 48 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: lol - i see a robust โwhat is .500โ debate ensued upthread. i look only at true .500 as a threshold for being good because, if you ainโt there, you need the stars to align to make the playoffs. plus, i wonโt toe the line for gary bettmanโs loser point parity project. Focusing on a .500 point percentage is meaningless, especially this early in the season.ย Every team in the Sabres division has at least .500 point percentage. Every team in the Sabres conference has at least .500 points percentage. ย Only 6 teams out of 32 are below .500 points percentage. ย Quote
mjd1001 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 58% of points (.580) is usually the accepted magic number to get you to the playoffs.ย Some years it might be a little less, some years a little bit more, but 58% is where you want to be.ย Play at that level the whole year until the last month. Then in the last month of the season if you need a little bit more you'll have to play better. But.. to see if this team is playing well or not, can they maintain that 58 number? And can they get to positive goal differential overall?. Edited 3 hours ago by mjd1001 Quote
SwampD Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said: Whutย They had 24 available points to achieve. They have gotten 13 points.ย I will not claim to be a math legend, but I believe 13/24 works out to be approximately .542ย Thatโs the percentage of points won, not games won. They got 54% of the points available with a game winning (5W-7L) percentage of .417. And as someone else said, it really doesnโt matter. Theyโre still not that great, but at least they are getting points this year. Baby steps. Edited 3 hours ago by SwampD Quote
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