Buffalo Bills 2025 Thread

[SwampD]

2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

I can't believe I never knew about the movie Buffalo 66.

How is that possible?

[PASabreFan]

10 minutes ago, SwampD said:

How is that possible?

I don't know. I'm watching it now.

19 minutes ago, calti said:

The restaurant scenes are classic Buffalo.

Just got to Dennys.

[SwampD]

1 minute ago, PASabreFan said:

I don't know. I'm watching it now.

Just got to Dennys.

It’s just grim, innit?

I might need a rewatch. It’s been a while.

[PASabreFan]

52 minutes ago, SwampD said:

It’s just grim, innit?

I might need a rewatch. It’s been a while.

A bit lol. Billy came through in the clutch tho.

[JujuFish]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

IF the Cheats lose to Miami and Buffalo and both win all their other games, why?

If the Cheats beat the Fish & or the Bills, yes, Buffalo will need more W's than the Cheats to get the division.

I've played around with the different scenarios, and this is true. Here are the tiebreaking scenarios (hopefully I haven't missed anything):

 

If the Pats beat the Bills this week, they clinch the division immediately (head-to-head tiebreaker).

 

If the Bills go 4-0 and the Pats 2-2 with the second loss to either the Jets or Dolphins, the Bills win the division (conference record).

If the Bills go 4-0 and the Pats 2-2 with the second loss against the Ravens, the Pats win the division (division record)

 

If the Bills go 2-2 and the Pats 0-4, the Bills clinch the division (division record tiebreaker).

 

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Jets and the Pats go 1-3 by beating either the Jets or Dolphins, the Pats win the division(division record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Jets and the Pats go 1-3 by beating the Ravens, the Bills win the division (conference record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Browns and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Jets or Dolphins, the Bills win the division (conference record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Browns and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Ravens, the Bills win the division (division record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Eagles and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Jets or Dolphins, the Bills win the division (common games).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Eagles and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Ravens, the Bills win the division (division record).

 

Whew. I probably screwed up somewhere in there. That was a fun diversion.

[K-9]

6 hours ago, LTS said:

It did, but for me the true dagger of this offense is the run game and not the passing game.  I wouldn't say the Bills abused the Bengals defense all afternoon. There was a point where the Bengals had 10 more points.

The play call here is not playing to win or lose. It's what call gives you the best chance to move the ball forward without stopping the clock. Personally I look at my #1 rushing offense in the NFL and ride that horse. Especially when it's a situation where the Bengals need to apply pressure for a stop. They're going to push up and press and there's a damn good chance that once Cook is through the hole the endzone is the next stop.

Playing to win would not be taking a knee with 10 seconds left in the first half and instead throwing a deep ball on a field where receivers have the advantage due to snow and an officiating crew that certainly loved its defensive passing play penalties. There's 10 seconds... why not take a chance?

And all of that aside.. why did the Bengals choose to kick-off rather than attempt the on-side kick? That's a clear cut decision of not playing to win.

I'm glad they won but not a single thing changes about how I feel. They are hanging on by a gossamer thread and we've already been presented with situations this year where that thread gets snapped more often than it stays intact.

We moved the ball all day long, didn’t punt, and shot ourselves in the foot more than anything the Bengals D did. And the fact that they were 10 points up at one point is a reflection of their ability to move against our defense and had nothing to do with what our offense was doing. 

I will agree to disagree with the rest of it. 

[shrader]

It sounds like the colts were disappointed when they realized Johnny Unitas wasn’t available for a workout. 

Edited 16 hours ago by shrader

[Doohickie]

5 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

I can't believe I never knew about the movie Buffalo 66.

I never heard of it either.  Reading the Wiki synopsis, it sounds like a Coen Brothers film.

[shrader]

On the last play of eagles-chargers last night, Hurts threw an interception while down 3 in OT. The defender tried to get up and advance the ball. If he winds up fumbling there, is the game still over if Philly recovers but doesn’t score?

[JustOneParade]

37 minutes ago, shrader said:

On the last play of eagles-chargers last night, Hurts threw an interception while down 3 in OT. The defender tried to get up and advance the ball. If he winds up fumbling there, is the game still over if Philly recovers but doesn’t score?

Wow. Really interesting question Shrader. Would the Eagles be deemed to have given up their one possession on the original fumble?  I don't know the answer. But had that happened I'm sure there would have been a group meeting of officials on the field that might have lasted 10 minutes while everyone in the stadium is waiting around to hear if the game was over.

[DarthEbriate]

48 minutes ago, shrader said:

On the last play of eagles-chargers last night, Hurts threw an interception while down 3 in OT. The defender tried to get up and advance the ball. If he winds up fumbling there, is the game still over if Philly recovers but doesn’t score?

I like to think that someday this scenario will result in a team losing an OT game by two scores (nine points).

[shrader]

37 minutes ago, JustOneParade said:

Wow. Really interesting question Shrader. Would the Eagles be deemed to have given up their one possession on the original fumble?  I don't know the answer. But had that happened I'm sure there would have been a group meeting of officials on the field that might have lasted 10 minutes while everyone in the stadium is waiting around to hear if the game was over.

It is definitely a change of possession. I just wonder if the league wrote in some provision to account for that crazy scenario. If it was ever going to happen, it would be in a game where the QB threw and interception and lost a fumble on the same play last 

[K-9]

2 hours ago, shrader said:

On the last play of eagles-chargers last night, Hurts threw an interception while down 3 in OT. The defender tried to get up and advance the ball. If he winds up fumbling there, is the game still over if Philly recovers but doesn’t score?

That is a damn good question. My take is that if the Eagles recover that fumble, it’s Eagles ball. Reason being is the play wouldn’t be over until it is completed. The int and subsequent fumble are part of the continuation of play and the play isn’t over until whistled dead by the ref. 

[inkman]

On 12/7/2025 at 4:14 PM, Flashsabre said:

I mean no player is more valuable to their team than Allen is to the Bills.

MVP = league’s best player

 

The nuance stuff fans try to argue about who means more to who is hogwash.  It’s the league’s best player.  

[Broken Ankles]

16 hours ago, JujuFish said:

I've played around with the different scenarios, and this is true. Here are the tiebreaking scenarios (hopefully I haven't missed anything):

 

If the Pats beat the Bills this week, they clinch the division immediately (head-to-head tiebreaker).

 

If the Bills go 4-0 and the Pats 2-2 with the second loss to either the Jets or Dolphins, the Bills win the division (conference record).

If the Bills go 4-0 and the Pats 2-2 with the second loss against the Ravens, the Pats win the division (division record)

 

If the Bills go 2-2 and the Pats 0-4, the Bills clinch the division (division record tiebreaker).

 

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Jets and the Pats go 1-3 by beating either the Jets or Dolphins, the Pats win the division(division record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Jets and the Pats go 1-3 by beating the Ravens, the Bills win the division (conference record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Browns and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Jets or Dolphins, the Bills win the division (conference record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Browns and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Ravens, the Bills win the division (division record).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Eagles and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Jets or Dolphins, the Bills win the division (common games).

If the Bills go 3-1 losing to the Eagles and the Pats go 1-3 beating the Ravens, the Bills win the division (division record).

 

Whew. I probably screwed up somewhere in there. That was a fun diversion.

Appreciate the efforts on the possible scenarios. Lots of permutations with 4 weeks remaining.  I’ve seen some scenarios if the Bills go 3-1, regardless of winning the East, they are 5 seed and play at Pittsburgh. Only downside is playing Denver if they were to win.  Currently, if season ended today, it would a road game againt Jacksonville as a #6 seed, with the winner playing NE or HOU. Talk about a tough home game for New Englands glorious return to the playoffs. Delicious. Either way, three road games as a wildcard and not seeing KC would be the road not taken.  
As mentioned above - best case to win the East lies with the Bills staying hot, winning all 4 and the Pats falling to Miami.  

 

[PASabreFan]

20 minutes ago, inkman said:

MVP = league’s best player

 

The nuance stuff fans try to argue about who means more to who is hogwash.  It’s the league’s best player.  

The NHL has that "to his team" language for the Hart Memorial Trophy. It definitely muddies the waters.

[shrader]

48 minutes ago, K-9 said:

That is a damn good question. My take is that if the Eagles recover that fumble, it’s Eagles ball. Reason being is the play wouldn’t be over until it is completed. The int and subsequent fumble are part of the continuation of play and the play isn’t over until whistled dead by the ref. 

I want to see some colossal series of errors like this result in a 2nd and goal from your own 5 yard line.