JohnC Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: yes and no. You make a trade when a trade possibility presents itself that makes your team better. Would anyone disagree that the 2nd line isn't good enough? Would anyone argue that we are fine waiting for Samuelson to heal and we couldn't use a solid defensive D man (a Gilbert, but a better than Gilbert one). I think 90% or more of the people here would agree with that, so if you can make a deal that doesn't create a new hole in your roster to fix those issues you make your team better and you increase your chances of making the playoffs. So if the Rangers are looking to make a move you have to look at it and try to make something happen. If the price is too high of course you say no thank you, but we do have the assets to afford an immediate overpay, as long as it makes us better. What conjectural proposal are you suggesting? Quote
Pimlach Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 On 11/20/2024 at 8:09 AM, WhenWillItEnd66 said: Buffalo needs Joki to play well now that he is back in the lineup. If he does, that gives KA a piece that is tradable. There are more than a few teams looking for a decent dman. Joki has it in him to be just that! You have to give to get and have that serviceable defenseman can help him get what this team needs! They need 2C (assume Cozens goes to wing or) or a top 6 winger (Assume Cozens stays at C). They also need 4D (assume Muel is moved to 3rd pair or gone). Trading Joki is just a piece of whatever multi-player deal brings in one of those players. Quote
Pimlach Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 (edited) On 11/19/2024 at 2:14 PM, PerreaultForever said: They say we will get a "bomb cyclone" where I live tonight. When did weather get this dramatic? It's going to be windy. Bomb Cyclone would be a good nickname for something in hockey though. Like the Surge. We need a BOMB CYCLONE! Weather on TV is nutso. The national media makes all weather events cataclysmic. In another News Flash - airports are crowded for Thanksgiving and Christmas travel. This is headline news every year on mainstream media. Long lines and delays at airports - imagine that? Meanwhile they sell stories that airlines are not making any money, and we get to see people wearing their pajamas while on airplanes, and fighting with other people because "they know their rights". Edited November 27 by Pimlach 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 58 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Weather on TV is nutso. The national media makes all weather events cataclysmic. True that; we need our sensationalism. That said, this was a 900-mile diameter storm front with 10+" of rain in California/Oregon, and then very little rain but consistent 60-90 mph wind gusts from Washington up Vancouver Island. I noted it in an earlier post, just call it a category 1 cyclone so everyone knows what it is, because the bomb part just means a specific parameter and isn't necessary. One neat thing about the cyclone: it spawned a baby cyclone in its wake. Much as when you draw an oar through the water and get 2 or 3 whirlpools. The "bomb" cyclone created a baby, then it looped around to the north and back out west into the Pacific as the baby (low-pressure spinner, nothing to worry about) added more rain showers as it brushed the coast. There were two cyclone eddies side-by-side a few days after the bomb initially struck. 1 Quote
Weave Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 20 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: True that; we need our sensationalism. That said, this was a 900-mile diameter storm front with 10+" of rain in California/Oregon, and then very little rain but consistent 60-90 mph wind gusts from Washington up Vancouver Island. I noted it in an earlier post, just call it a category 1 cyclone so everyone knows what it is, because the bomb part just means a specific parameter and isn't necessary. One neat thing about the cyclone: it spawned a baby cyclone in its wake. Much as when you draw an oar through the water and get 2 or 3 whirlpools. The "bomb" cyclone created a baby, then it looped around to the north and back out west into the Pacific as the baby (low-pressure spinner, nothing to worry about) added more rain showers as it brushed the coast. There were two cyclone eddies side-by-side a few days after the bomb initially struck. The media didn’t coin the term bomb cyclone. Meteorologists did. In the 1940s. The media is just repeating what meteorologists are telling them. It’s not sensationalism, it is a description of a weather phenomenon. 1 Quote
Big Guava Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 Maybe Adams has been listening to some Wiz Khalifa "Black and Yellow"... "Anything I do...I do it big..." Quote
Thorner Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 14 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: yes and no. You make a trade when a trade possibility presents itself that makes your team better. Would anyone disagree that the 2nd line isn't good enough? Would anyone argue that we are fine waiting for Samuelson to heal and we couldn't use a solid defensive D man (a Gilbert, but a better than Gilbert one). I think 90% or more of the people here would agree with that, so if you can make a deal that doesn't create a new hole in your roster to fix those issues you make your team better and you increase your chances of making the playoffs. So if the Rangers are looking to make a move you have to look at it and try to make something happen. If the price is too high of course you say no thank you, but we do have the assets to afford an immediate overpay, as long as it makes us better. Everyone is saying the same thing tbh. There isn’t a single poster suggesting the team make a trade they feel is bad “just to do it”. The entire thing is arguing a straw man Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 6 hours ago, JohnC said: What conjectural proposal are you suggesting? Already laid that out but I'd be open to moving ANY prospects or picks that are currently in Rochester or not on the current roster. I'd also be open to moving any fringe player if needed (depending on the return). I'm simply not content to hope that Quinn eventually gets it together and leaps up to Peterka's level. There are weak spots on this roster and since we have the assets and cap space I want to address those weak spots and become a truly good team now. Not later. 3 minutes ago, Thorner said: Everyone is saying the same thing tbh. There isn’t a single poster suggesting the team make a trade they feel is bad “just to do it”. The entire thing is arguing a straw man No, I think there's still a disagreement on staying the course and sticking with the plan vs. do something now to take the leap. It becomes a question of degree and how much people value various players or not. Quote
Thorner Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Already laid that out but I'd be open to moving ANY prospects or picks that are currently in Rochester or not on the current roster. I'd also be open to moving any fringe player if needed (depending on the return). I'm simply not content to hope that Quinn eventually gets it together and leaps up to Peterka's level. There are weak spots on this roster and since we have the assets and cap space I want to address those weak spots and become a truly good team now. Not later. No, I think there's still a disagreement on staying the course and sticking with the plan vs. do something now to take the leap. It becomes a question of degree and how much people value various players or not. Exactly. Varying degrees. The post you responded to’s thesis was “you make a trade when there’s a good trade”. I mean, ya. No one is arguing otherwise. The disagreement stems from what you said: disagreements on the evaluations. Ie “what’s a good trade?” Edited November 27 by Thorner 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 3 minutes ago, Thorner said: Exactly. Varying degrees. The post you responded to’s thesis was “you make a trade when there’s a good trade”. I mean, ya. No one is arguing otherwise. The disagreement stems from what you said: disagreements on the evaluations. Ie “what’s a good trade?” That's fair. Plus the timeline and the level of the fan's impatience. I would suspect some of the younger guys are more patient and see a longer plan as okay but some of us older guys are just getting desperate for a return of what we grew up with. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted November 27 Report Posted November 27 Just now, PerreaultForever said: That's fair. Plus the timeline and the level of the fan's impatience. I would suspect some of the younger guys are more patient and see a longer plan as okay but some of us older guys are just getting desperate for a return of what we grew up with. We are basically in Children of Men territory, now. Diego is gone; there’s no one young left 1 Quote
LabattBlue Posted November 29 Report Posted November 29 Back to the front burner. I am sure Terry has some good ideas. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted Monday at 05:03 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:03 PM On 11/14/2024 at 12:55 AM, GASabresIUFAN said: He is probably going to trade for Tyler Myers. Can't get bigger then him. So we can have to gigantic D men whose nicknames should be Casper. Please no trades... the last person I want with control over our meager assets is this regime. Quote
steveoat87 Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Report Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Kevyn has to go. He has no sense of urgency while the season may be slipping away. I hope Lindy gets in his face and reads him the riot act. He should learn from Brandon Beane -- when the Bills needed a speedy wide receiver they wasted no type in getting Amari Cooper. This is pathetic. Quote
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