#freejame Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 20 minutes ago, Thorny said: Trading up is kinda statistically folly but I’d be up for trading down and picking up an asset, or dealing the pick entirely. I know there’s zero chance of that happening but still. I honestly thought it was the opposite in hockey than say the NFL. Whereas there is more value in football moving back, it’s more advantageous to move up in the NHL. I’ve been wrong before though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) 19 minutes ago, #freejame said: I honestly thought it was the opposite in hockey than say the NFL. Whereas there is more value in football moving back, it’s more advantageous to move up in the NHL. I’ve been wrong before though. I think it's more like the drop-off in the NHL is a lot more dramatic. Pretty good chance you get as good a player at 21 that you do at 12 in the NFL, and that the 2nd you added to make the move will be a player. Those things aren't nearly as likely in the NHL. Edited May 11 by dudacek 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 5 minutes ago, #freejame said: I honestly thought it was the opposite in hockey than say the NFL. Whereas there is more value in football moving back, it’s more advantageous to move up in the NHL. I’ve been wrong before though. Speaking as someone who’s never been wrong, - the reason trading up isn’t statistically borne out as a good play very often is because much of the nhl draft is a crapshoot - due in large part to the young (And therefore less predictable) ages at which the prospective talents are drafted at. Paying an asset to move up is most often the result of plain hubris: you are already doing a lot of guessing, doubling down on a guess, unless you’ve got some serious, serious intel, is pretty folly. Trading down and picking up an asset is akin to “knowing what you don’t know” In the nfl, there’s much more certainly when drafting across the board - players are stepping into line ups immediately. It’s much easier to put a fair price on what you should pay to move up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 27 minutes ago, Thorny said: Speaking as someone who’s never been wrong, Great explanation here. The streak continues! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, #freejame said: Great explanation here. The streak continues! I'm not sure it's good to encourage him . . . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: I'm not sure it's good to encourage him . . . Thorny's a good guy, it's Lgr you need to watch out for when it comes to the draft talk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Just now, #freejame said: Thorny's a good guy, it's Lgr you need to watch out for when it comes to the draft talk Oh, I know. He's bright, it was mainly a joke. Except for his even-handedness about Eichel, that's annoying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted May 13 Author Report Share Posted May 13 MDD FC. There's some common things here I really like BARLOW and ZIEMMER, after watching some film, I like the nasty Allen has and MacKinnon looks like OC from the movie Miracle and kinda plays like him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted May 14 Author Report Share Posted May 14 FC this would be a great top of the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steveoath Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 OK I'll play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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French Collection Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 I tried the FC site. May get an argument from Arizona, they took Axel Sandin-Pellikka at #6 but I snagged him as Axel Pellikka at #109. Sabres long term RHD depth is no longer an issue with Reinbacher, Willander and Pellikka. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, French Collection said: I tried the FC site. May get an argument from Arizona, they took Axel Sandin-Pellikka at #6 but I snagged him as Axel Pellikka at #109. Sabres long term RHD depth is no longer an issue with Reinbacher, Willander and Pellikka. I saw that. I have come away with the impression that the FC site, and some of the others aren't really that reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 49 minutes ago, steveoath said: I saw that. I have come away with the impression that the FC site, and some of the others aren't really that reliable. I also tried drafting Suchanek or Milic late but couldn’t find them using the search feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted May 15 Author Report Share Posted May 15 FC Wood was there at the top of the second, so I had to take him right. Now this takes care of the right shot D problem. MDD FC https://draftprospectshockey.com/draftsim/#/ This is another simulator. 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: @ScorpionZero you really like those mock drafts Yeah I guess I do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 @ScorpionZero you really like those mock drafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rasmus_ Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 On 5/15/2023 at 9:05 AM, French Collection said: I tried the FC site. May get an argument from Arizona, they took Axel Sandin-Pellikka at #6 but I snagged him as Axel Pellikka at #109. Sabres long term RHD depth is no longer an issue with Reinbacher, Willander and Pellikka. I love the first four picks. I'd have to do more research on the others. But those four picks are quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 19 Report Share Posted May 19 8 hours ago, Rasmus_ said: I love the first four picks. I'd have to do more research on the others. But those four picks are quality. Axel Pellikka is actually Axel Sandin-Pellikka so he is a steal in the fourth round. His hyphenated name was picked in the first round. Robertson is a young goalie who played in North Bay, didn’t play much because the starter won goalie of the year. Lardis was on Team Canada U18 team. Pharand is a kid from Sudbury playing for the Wolves, watched him play often. He also played U18s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScorpionZero Posted May 20 Author Report Share Posted May 20 I'm really thinking this is the draft for role players, we have highly skilled put the pick in the net players, but we need those tough grinders who play great to way games, that still score but are a nightmare to play against. We need that between our 3rd and 4th lines. The players who frustrate the ***** out of other lines. What's the best Really. 2 lines that are dangerous scoring goals. 1 line that is annoying to play against but scores. 1 line that makes your night a living hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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