LGR4GM Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Sorry if I’m repeating myself here he was injured last April, had surgery, missed training all summer , missed training camp, missed the start of the regular season Maybe wait until Oct to pass judgement. I know patience isn’t a virtue of a number of posters here Im going to give him 20 games next fall before I judge too much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Im going to give him 20 games next fall before I judge too much. I'm going to give him 10 to 15 games next fall before I judge too much. With an offseason and training camp he should have more than enough time to establish a role and become comfortable with the team. In my mind, I see him as a third line or lower player who provides some size and toughness. I don't want to exaggerate his role next year. If he understands his role and plays within it, as Jost does, then his addition is a plus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Im going to give him 20 games next fall before I judge too much. I think that is completely fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOutsideChicago Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Maybe Meatballs should be fired. This is very strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, JustOutsideChicago said: Maybe Meatballs should be fired. This is very strange. WTF happened post all star break. It’s surpassed strange. This doesn’t look like the same franchise let alone team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 So Granato is basically saying hes out of shape thats why hes not playing . That should get you fired 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 9 hours ago, Buffalonill said: So Granato is basically saying hes out of shape thats why hes not playing . That should get you fired You are delusional. How is it Don Granato's fault that Greenway isn't up to the Sabres standard of fitness? I mean, you want to blame him for keeping in Olofsson and benching Jost, sure I am here for that but omg is this a special level of "I don't like him so everything that isn't perfect is his fault" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: You are delusional. How is it Don Granato's fault that Greenway isn't up to the Sabres standard of fitness? I mean, you want to blame him for keeping in Olofsson and benching Jost, sure I am here for that but omg is this a special level of "I don't like him so everything that isn't perfect is his fault" So you are OK with a coach pounding a table for a player (For a playoff push) And hes out of shape ? Shouldn't you research that before you trade for a player like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Greenway has 2 goals in his two games since returning from injury. From watching him in the past and watching him when he got here, something was not right. I’m convinced he was trying to play through something and gut it out. I don’t think he is in top shape to end the year. He is a guy I really want to see come to camp next year when he is healthy and see how he does under Donny. There is a lot to like in his game and if Donny can bring the best of it out like we have seen with so many other players then i think this will be a really good pickup longterm. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 10 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Greenway has 2 goals in his two games since returning from injury. From watching him in the past and watching him when he got here, something was not right. I’m convinced he was trying to play through something and gut it out. I don’t think he is in top shape to end the year. He is a guy I really want to see come to camp next year when he is healthy and see how he does under Donny. There is a lot to like in his game and if Donny can bring the best of it out like we have seen with so many other players then i think this will be a really good pickup longterm. Granato says the same - he can’t wait to work with him when he’s healthy basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Hes going to be on the 4th line when Savoie comes next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Hes going to be on the 4th line when Savoie comes next season I could see a fourth line of Greenway, Krebs and Mitts when the Sabres are Cup contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Hes going to be on the 4th line when Savoie comes next season I would bet that Savoie would more likely be on the third line with Mitts. When Granato was recently asked about Greenway on WGR, he said that he is playing impaired and that next year he expects him to be better. He added that he coached him before and strongly believes there is more to his game to draw from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Buffalonill said: Hes going to be on the 4th line when Savoie comes next season If KO retires and VO doesn't get moved preseason, then they're both on the 4th line next season. Savoie gets to learn like Krebs did this year. Girgensons-Savoie-Greenway. Savoie would get moved around to a few different lines as part of early season experimentation to see if he should hang around or get routed back to the WHL or loaned to Europe somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 33 minutes ago, JohnC said: I would bet that Savoie would more likely be on the third line with Mitts. When Granato was recently asked about Greenway on WGR, he said that he is playing impaired and that next year he expects him to be better. He added that he coached him before and strongly believes there is more to his game to draw from. There's no room on the top 2 lines if Savoie comes so likely Greenway on the 4th and Savoie 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Flashsabre said: Greenway has 2 goals in his two games since returning from injury. From watching him in the past and watching him when he got here, something was not right. I’m convinced he was trying to play through something and gut it out. I don’t think he is in top shape to end the year. He is a guy I really want to see come to camp next year when he is healthy and see how he does under Donny. There is a lot to like in his game and if Donny can bring the best of it out like we have seen with so many other players then i think this will be a really good pickup longterm. This is what I’m hoping for. I see a player who looks out of shape, both physically and mentally. That’s why he was available. Donnie believes in him, Donnie has a track record, Jordan has a track record, and his skill set is precisely what we need so the pieces are there. I expect he will be challenged to have the off-season of his life and he will be put into a position to succeed. Fingers crossed he responds. Assuming Savoie is ready, the concept of a Savoie/Mitts/Greenway 3rd line sure has an intriguing mix of skills for next year Edited April 2 by dudacek 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 51 minutes ago, dudacek said: This is what I’m hoping for. I see a player who looks out of shape, both physically and mentally. That’s why he was available. Donnie believes in him, Donnie has a track record, Jordan has a track record, and his skill set is precisely what we need so the pieces are there. I expect he will be challenged to have the off-season of his life and he will be put into a position to succeed. Fingers crossed he responds. Assuming Savoie is ready, the concept of a Savoie/Mitts/Greenway 3rd line sure has an intriguing mix of skills for next year I'd also like to add seeing him fully healthy. He had shoulder surgery last summer, then in his first game back with the Wild he either re-injured it or injured his other shoulder and missed an additional 2 weeks. If he needs another cleanup surgery and get back to his 2022 self (or just feel confident taking/making checks again) that'd go a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TageMVP Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Picking it up lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centralparkhockey Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 On 3/22/2023 at 9:30 AM, Buffalonill said: So you are OK with a coach pounding a table for a player (For a playoff push) And hes out of shape ? Shouldn't you research that before you trade for a player like that It was public knowledge that he started the season out of shape due to not being able to complete a full off season work out program because of injuries/surgeries. This isn’t something that Adams/Granato learned when he got to Buffalo. You suggest that Granato was pounding the table to get a player (for the playoff push). There is more evidence to suggest that Greenway was brought with the long view in mind. I’ll reserve all my judgement until he gets a full off season conditioning program with Buffalo. link to “public knowledge”: https://m.startribune.com/wilds-jordan-greenway-ready-to-put-painful-offseason-behind-him-deliver-on-promise-lavelle-neal/600210755/ 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, JohnC said: I would bet that Savoie would more likely be on the third line with Mitts. When Granato was recently asked about Greenway on WGR, he said that he is playing impaired and that next year he expects him to be better. He added that he coached him before and strongly believes there is more to his game to draw from. 2 straight games with goals...starting to find a groove. 2 minutes ago, centralparkhockey said: It was public knowledge that he started the season out of shape due to not being able to complete a full off season work out program because of injuries/surgeries. This isn’t something that Adams/Granato learned when he got to Buffalo. You suggest that Granato was pounding the table to get a player (for the playoff push). There is more evidence to suggest that Greenway was brought with the long view in mind. I’ll reserve all my judgement until he gets a full off season conditioning program with Buffalo. link to “public knowledge”: https://m.startribune.com/wilds-jordan-greenway-ready-to-put-painful-offseason-behind-him-deliver-on-promise-lavelle-neal/600210755/ Adams and Granato are both in lock step that they are acquiring played with years on their contracts to help not only this year but in the future and typically younger players to fit in with the players already here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 9 minutes ago, centralparkhockey said: It was public knowledge that he started the season out of shape due to not being able to complete a full off season work out program because of injuries/surgeries. This isn’t something that Adams/Granato learned when he got to Buffalo. You suggest that Granato was pounding the table to get a player (for the playoff push). There is more evidence to suggest that Greenway was brought with the long view in mind. I’ll reserve all my judgement until he gets a full off season conditioning program with Buffalo. link to “public knowledge”: https://m.startribune.com/wilds-jordan-greenway-ready-to-put-painful-offseason-behind-him-deliver-on-promise-lavelle-neal/600210755/ Welcome back! And great find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centralparkhockey Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Marvin said: Welcome back! And great find! Thanks for the welcome back. I have always been more of a lurker than a poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Looks like a guy that will take the place of Kyle O or Girgs. He's scored the last 2 games.That's better than a lot of our guys. He gets an off-season to figure out his future. Not hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quint Posted April 7 Author Report Share Posted April 7 (edited) Greenway has scored four goals in twelve games since becoming a Sabre. He only had two goals all season in 45 games with the Wild. He has scored 200 percent more goals here in 1/4 of the games. Hell, he even cracked a smile this time. Edited April 7 by Quint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Goals or not, he is looking better out there. Let’s judge further next season after he gets healthy and acclimated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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