Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: Correlation. Causation. Schlemiel schlemozzle. Rasmus was dumb. He got smarter. A natural course? How much blame and credit do the coaches deserve? It is a natural course to an extent. It has to be encouraged in the best / rightest way to maximize the development. The coaches do deserve a good amount of credit or blame if their approach does not maximize the development. And back to Jeff Skinner. Obviously he was not developing. He was being held back by the coaching approach of RaKru. Not disimilar to the development of Rasmus, which was held back by the coaching approach of RaKru. Edited December 23, 2022 by Sabres Fan in NS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 7 hours ago, LGR4GM said: If his name was Marchand you'd like him. In reality Skinner is a discount version. Skinner is a 5 time 30+ goal scorer. Soon to be a 9 time 20+ goal scorer. He's played 13 seasons... so how streaky is he really? They are not really comparable but Marchand carries a cap hit of 6.1 million and Skinner has a cap hit of 9 million so discount version??? I thought you were the math guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 hours ago, PASabreFan said: Correlation. Causation. Schlemiel schlemozzle. Rasmus was dumb. He got smarter. A natural course? How much blame and credit do the coaches deserve? ^. Hasenpfeffer incorporated. Rasmus was never dumb. Just bewildered by the genius that is Ralph Krueger. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: They are not really comparable but Marchand carries a cap hit of 6.1 million and Skinner has a cap hit of 9 million so discount version??? I thought you were the math guy? I think Marchand is a better hockey player than Skinner for significantly less money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 13 hours ago, PASabreFan said: Correlation. Causation. Schlemiel schlemozzle. Rasmus was dumb. He got smarter. A natural course? How much blame and credit do the coaches deserve? Hmm. Not totally unfair. Mostly wrong, I maintain. But there’s something to this. A small thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Hank said: I think Marchand is a better hockey player than Skinner for significantly less money. But hey let’s blame his contract on him, dislike him for it, and not the GM who offered and agreed to it. Not saying you, but some fans actually dislike Skinner BECAUSE of the contract. If he signed for 5M for 4 years, they literally would like him more. It’s “obnoxious”. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 26, 2022 Report Share Posted December 26, 2022 Even Famous Actresses are starting to take notice https://people.com/sports/nhl-player-goes-viral-emily-in-paris-fan/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 Heheheheh. That article said "titular"... Heheh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 11:15 AM, Zamboni said: But hey let’s blame his contract on him, dislike him for it, and not the GM who offered and agreed to it. Not saying you, but some fans actually dislike Skinner BECAUSE of the contract. If he signed for 5M for 4 years, they literally would like him more. It’s “obnoxious”. In fairness, not liking players due to their contract situation vs production is fine. And credit to skinner, it's no longer the worst contract in the league. It's just still a really bad deal given age and what he is as a player. I blame the nhl and players association for the problem mostly. 8 year fully guaranteed deals along with full no trade protection makes bad situations stick around a lot longer. Especially when you are losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted December 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) I begin to wonder if Skinner's contract actually was the worst. Surely Bobrovskys is even worse? Edited December 27, 2022 by steveoath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, steveoath said: I begin to wonder if Skinner's contract actually was the worst. Surely Bobrovskys is even worse? I don’t know if you are the ghost of Chistmas past, present or future. So many tenses in your statement!! 🤯 Edited December 27, 2022 by inkman 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, inkman said: I don’t know if you are the ghost of Chistmas past, present or future. So many tenses in your statement!! 🤯 Why so tense? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 hours ago, steveoath said: I begin to wonder if Skinner's contract actually was the worst. Surely Bobrovskys is even worse? No. Skinner's contract is not the worst now and was never the worst. Nor will it be the worst going forward into the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 14 hours ago, Darryl Shannon's +/- said: It's just still a really bad deal given age and what he is as a player. No, it's really not. If you look at his production versus higher paid contracts (as was done earlier in this thread), he's outperforming several of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/25/2022 at 9:06 PM, Brawndo said: Even Famous Actresses are starting to take notice https://people.com/sports/nhl-player-goes-viral-emily-in-paris-fan/ Woke up to a message about the Sabres from my wife, an unusual occurrence. But it was this and it’s checked out given she loves that show 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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