GASabresIUFAN Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) On 12/5/2022 at 8:54 PM, thewookie1 said: That’s certainly unusual; who’d they have play goal for them then? Comrie and UPL Throw in Schenn with Demko and I’m very interested in the deal. Question as always is how much. Edited December 8, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: I'd hate to trade any of our picks or young players but I hate not having a real NHL goalie. Trading away a second round pick for a good goaltender who might not be around a long time might be acceptable I hate having 3 disasters on D filling the 5-7 roles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Comrie and UPL Throw in Schenn with Demko and I’m very interested in the deal. Question as always is how much. I meant Vancouver lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, thewookie1 said: I meant Vancouver lol So did I. We give them UPL and Comrie as part of the deal for Demko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, inkman said: I hate having 3 disasters on D filling the 5-7 roles. Yes. And few D prospects. We need the draft picks for that reason, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: I'd hate to trade any of our picks or young players but I hate not having a real NHL goalie. Trading away a second round pick for a good goaltender who might not be around a long time might be acceptable Pretty sure that it’s been mentioned before, but what about Bobrovsky? It’s probably an offseason deal, and he would need to waive his NMC, but it might not be a completely crazy idea. Sabres would need to be convinced that they could get average+ goaltending from him for a couple years. He has 3 more years at a $10M hit left after this season, though less in real $ ($10-6.5-6M). Florida also has Knight, and they are scheduled to pay them a combined $14.5M against the cap next season. That’s a lot for goaltending, and probably means that you can get Bobrovsky PLUS some other asset just to take him. Sabres can probably afford the contract without causing real trouble. Maybe they can get Florida to retain 25% or something. All in all it would kind of be a crazy move, but it could be a way to get a bridge goalie for 3 years without using up any pick/prospect assets, and maybe actually adding some asset in the process. Then they could use some pick/prospect assets to improve their 3C and/or #4 D situations. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Curt said: Pretty sure that it’s been mentioned before, but what about Bobrovsky? It’s probably an offseason deal, and he would need to waive his NMC, but it might not be a completely crazy idea. Sabres would need to be convinced that they could get average+ goaltending from him for a couple years. He has 3 more years at a $10M hit left after this season, though less in real $ ($10-6.5-6M). Florida also has Knight, and they are scheduled to pay them a combined $14.5M against the cap next season. That’s a lot for goaltending, and probably means that you can get Bobrovsky PLUS some other asset just to take him. Sabres can probably afford the contract without causing real trouble. Maybe they can get Florida to retain 25% or something. All in all it would kind of be a crazy move, but it could be a way to get a bridge goalie for 3 years without using up any pick/prospect assets, and maybe actually adding some asset in the process. Then they could use some pick/prospect assets to improve their 3C and/or #4 D situations. It's not a small risk. Bob turns 35 in September, so you'd be taking on his age 35, 36 and 37 seasons. They have cap space now, but that's before Cozens and Dahlin get what will presumably be big contracts. Most importantly, he appears to be in decline, possibly steep decline. His SV% for the last 7 years is .921%. In the last 3 full seasons, it was .900, .906 and .913, and .880 in 13 games this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said: Yes. And few D prospects. We need the draft picks for that reason, IMO Personally I’d rather find guys that fit into the 20-25 age range with the rest of the core. If not, then lower price vets who aren’t atrocious in their own end 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, nfreeman said: It's not a small risk. Bob turns 35 in September, so you'd be taking on his age 35, 36 and 37 seasons. They have cap space now, but that's before Cozens and Dahlin get what will presumably be big contracts. Most importantly, he appears to be in decline, possibly steep decline. His SV% for the last 7 years is .921%. In the last 3 full seasons, it was .900, .906 and .913, and .880 in 13 games this season. Yup, not without risk. As I alluded to, it would definitely require buy in from Sabres scouting and people in the know to be confident that he has more left in the tank. One thing to keep in mind when looking at raw sv% though, league average sv% has decreased quite a bit in the past 7 years, from 0.914-0.915 range in 2014-2016, to 0.907 last season and 0.904 so far this season. So Bob’s 0.921 sv% from 2017-18 is essentially the same as his 0.913 from last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 8:47 PM, Brawndo said: Friedman is reporting that Vancouver maybe willing to move Thatcher Demko when he returns from injury. Now that would interest me. Depends on price of course but he's signed for 3 more years after this one which means you get him and Comrie as your tandem. You can probably get Vancouver to retain a mil. Cost my not be prohibitive and last year Demko was great. Interesting option maybe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 Right now this teams top 2 lines are playing great, and the 4th line is doing what you need them to do. The 3rd line is the glaring, gaping hole right now. What do you want in a 3rd liner? I want to focus one someone who can be somewhat productive with lesser minutes (doesn't need 17-20 minutes per game to produce) and can produce without PP time. Someoone with the basic skills that they CAN move up to a 2nd line in case of injuries. Hopefully someone in that 25-30 years of age category. Who is that? I have no idea. but I don't need a top 10 pick or a guy on pace to score 30+ goals. Just find me a guy who can get me 15, MAYBE 20 goals but does that with 3rd line minutes and minimal PP time. That will fill a major hole on this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Curt said: Yup, not without risk. As I alluded to, it would definitely require buy in from Sabres scouting and people in the know to be confident that he has more left in the tank. One thing to keep in mind when looking at raw sv% though, league average sv% has decreased quite a bit in the past 7 years, from 0.914-0.915 range in 2014-2016, to 0.907 last season and 0.904 so far this season. So Bob’s 0.921 sv% from 2017-18 is essentially the same as his 0.913 from last season. How does that compare to his .880 save % this year? I’ve seen him a few times and would be concerned with taking on even half of his $10m AAV. He’s 34 and declining with guaranteed money. What is his motivation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Chrychrun. Article https://www.gophnx.com/2022/12/01/how-the-coyotes-are-showcasing-jakob-chychrun/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said: Chrychrun. Article https://www.gophnx.com/2022/12/01/how-the-coyotes-are-showcasing-jakob-chychrun/ idk, I wouldn't give up 2 firsts for him. What we really need is another Samuelsson, and that's not Chychrun. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said: idk, I wouldn't give up 2 firsts for him. What we really need is another Samuelsson, and that's not Chychrun. The question is who would that be? I can't come up with names who would be available for the life of me. And I WANT another Samuelsson badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Marvin said: The question is who would that be? I can't come up with names who would be available for the life of me. And I WANT another Samuelsson badly. Not quite a Samuelsson, but thoughts on Connor Murphy out of Chicago? Or Jake McCabe to put with boosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuting Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Bo Horvat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, Refuting said: Bo Horvat He is allegedly looking for Skinner money. No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuting Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Marvin said: He is allegedly looking for Skinner money. No way. The cap increases not decreases Skinner signed his deal 4 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Refuting said: The cap increases not decreases Skinner signed his deal 4 years ago I know. I don't want to pay $9M a year for contract-year-itis. And as I said, I want another Samuelsson and another goaltender first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, sabresparaavida said: Not quite a Samuelsson, but thoughts on Connor Murphy out of Chicago? Or Jake McCabe to put with boosh No interest in bringing back McCabe, already tried that. Connor Murphy isn't a bad player but I'd be cautious as to the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Marvin said: The question is who would that be? I can't come up with names who would be available for the life of me. And I WANT another Samuelsson badly. Available now would be the issue wouldn't it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Ian Mitchell Brock Faber Ty Emberson Helge Grans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Ian Mitchell Brock Faber Ty Emberson Helge Grans Every time I see or hear this name. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 This is Schenn’s Agent. Based on His Contract and the fact that Ben Chiarot pulled a 1st at the TDL, the Canucks are going to probably get a 2023 First. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.