RochesterExpat Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Thorny said: Does 100 mean less than it used to? Or just an anomaly? Point inflation exists. The east was essentially class warfare last season between the contenders and the rebuilders. Hence why the point disparity was so significant. Unfortunately, this point consolidation is a natural evolution of the draft and draft lottery. If you are going to miss the playoffs or be a fringe team at best, you’re better off just terribly underperforming. Why play for a wild card spot when you can get a higher draft pick instead? None of the wildcard teams made it out of the first round last season, but as a result of playing in the playoffs, they removed themselves from the draft lottery. Since you can only jump 10 spots now, it’s best to finish inside 11th place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 13 hours ago, Thorny said: Oh ya, with those 4 extra wins they’d be sitting at 100, I don’t think a team has ever missed with that many, no? - - - 13 teams had 100 points last year?! 41% of the league. Every playoff seed in the East? Does 100 mean less than it used to? Or just an anomaly? Yeah, there was such a big gap between #8 and #9, the top of the east were siphoning points from the hapless bottom half more than most years. In most years, the 7-8 teams would be battling the 9-10 teams down to the last week. 8 hours ago, RochesterExpat said: Point inflation exists. The east was essentially class warfare last season between the contenders and the rebuilders. Hence why the point disparity was so significant. Unfortunately, this point consolidation is a natural evolution of the draft and draft lottery. If you are going to miss the playoffs or be a fringe team at best, you’re better off just terribly underperforming. Why play for a wild card spot when you can get a higher draft pick instead? None of the wildcard teams made it out of the first round last season, but as a result of playing in the playoffs, they removed themselves from the draft lottery. Since you can only jump 10 spots now, it’s best to finish inside 11th place. 1st para: I think it's just the way it rolls. I remember a few years in the 90s or 2000s where there was a *clear* line between the playoff teams and not in the west. One year there were 7 good teams in the west, and then #8 had 88 points. It happens. 2nd: I seriously doubt any team is going to tank from #9 to try to get to #11 to gain a couple % chance. No owner is going to approve "Well, we may have a chance to get at least 2 more home games and have people in the seats right down to the wire. But if we lose a bunch of games, we can go from 0.8% to 2.6% of moving way up in the draft!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 I think the Sabres make it to 81-89 points this season. Unless the goaltending and D fall off a cliff, which could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterExpat Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, MattPie said: 2nd: I seriously doubt any team is going to tank from #9 to try to get to #11 to gain a couple % chance. No owner is going to approve "Well, we may have a chance to get at least 2 more home games and have people in the seats right down to the wire. But if we lose a bunch of games, we can go from 0.8% to 2.6% of moving way up in the draft!" Sorry, I I didn't mean to suggest teams were going to play it like that, just that it's mathematically better to miss the playoffs and be under 11th than it is it just barely miss (as happened to Vegas and Vancouver). That was poorly written. My point was more that we now see teams that are on the fringe of the playoffs turning into sellers and fewer fringe teams turning into buyers (unless the GM feels his job is in jeopardy). That helps lead to point consolidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 I'll say it: if they get good goaltending out of Comrie, Anderson and UPL, and if TT stays healthy, they are going to get 95+ points and make the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 19 hours ago, RochesterExpat said: Point inflation exists. The east was essentially class warfare last season between the contenders and the rebuilders. Hence why the point disparity was so significant. Unfortunately, this point consolidation is a natural evolution of the draft and draft lottery. If you are going to miss the playoffs or be a fringe team at best, you’re better off just terribly underperforming. Why play for a wild card spot when you can get a higher draft pick instead? None of the wildcard teams made it out of the first round last season, but as a result of playing in the playoffs, they removed themselves from the draft lottery. Since you can only jump 10 spots now, it’s best to finish inside 11th place. The bolded is exceptionally grim and I can’t say I agree.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getpucksdeep Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 On the BetMGM App, the Sabres odds for Stanley cup went from +10000 on Monday night during 8-3 romp to +5000 today. 🚀 You can still grab them to win the Atlantic for +4000, that is unchanged since Monday. https://sports.ny.betmgm.com/en/sports/hockey-12/betting/usa-9/nhl-34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 9:07 AM, LGR4GM said: I will bet you money the Sabres are not a bottom 5 team in the NHL. On 9/14/2022 at 8:14 PM, Buffalonill said: How much you want to do ? With a AV bet ? On 9/14/2022 at 8:26 PM, LGR4GM said: 100 bucks the Sabres do not finish in the bottom 5. So 28-32 On 9/14/2022 at 9:24 PM, Buffalonill said: Thats fine with me Would starting a club just for Bets work? How do ppl feel about it? On 9/13/2022 at 9:50 PM, Buffalonill said: Bookmark it .. bottom 5 in the league Sorry, I missed the start of this. Just trying to keep it all together and I do hope we remember at the end of the year, win or lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Would starting a club just for Bets work? How do ppl feel about it? Sorry, I missed the start of this. Just trying to keep it all together and I do hope we remember at the end of the year, win or lose Hey I wanted in on this! So will we hold @Buffalonillto his bet? I think he's not feeling real confident right now. 😂 FYI the odds for Sabres making the playoffs fell to +300 from +600 at the start of the season Edited November 2, 2022 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) On 11/2/2022 at 8:17 AM, LGR4GM said: Would starting a club just for Bets work? How do ppl feel about it? Sorry, I missed the start of this. Just trying to keep it all together and I do hope we remember at the end of the year, win or lose Calm down, Aaron Paul - - - But yes Edited November 3, 2022 by Thorny NO idea if anyone gets that reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 Ik this is old but hear me out. The season is ending so we can reevaluate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Ik this is old but hear me out. The season is ending so we can reevaluate it. Two more wins and I cover. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 Can we get a jerkoff emoji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Can we get a jerkoff emoji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, SwampD said: Is this guy checking his dip stick? If he came up to you and offered to shake your hand would you be sociable enough to give him a manly grasp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Can we get a jerkoff emoji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 9/21/2022 at 12:53 PM, nfreeman said: I'll say it: if they get good goaltending out of Comrie, Anderson and UPL, and if TT stays healthy, they are going to get 95+ points and make the playoffs. You are getting carried away. Maybe 85 pts is attainable but 95 + points and the playoffs is out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: You are getting carried away. Maybe 85 pts is attainable but 95 + points and the playoffs is out of reach. That was from September. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, JohnC said: You are getting carried away. Maybe 85 pts is attainable but 95 + points and the playoffs is out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, SwampD said: That was from September. That makes more sense. I thought he was recently posting and was inebriated when he made that prediction. I realize that he is more sober than I originally thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 Well, that was a strange Sabrespace interaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contempt Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 9/16/2022 at 4:43 PM, Contempt said: I know that pinning a season on what we have is a bet I'm not making. Is this the receipt that was kept? Turns out our goaltending does still suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: Well, that was a strange Sabrespace interaction. At least you were spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Two more wins and I cover. Me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, JohnC said: Is this guy checking his dip stick? If he came up to you and offered to shake your hand would you be sociable enough to give him a manly grasp? He would have to get that grin off of his face too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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