GASabresIUFAN Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) I am going to assume the Amerks remain in the playoffs and that Hinostroza and Miller are traded at the deadline. I'm also going to assume the guys stay mostly healthy and I recognize that that's a big if. Olofsson Mitts Tuch Asplund Cozens Okposo Skinner Thompson Quinn Girgensons Jankowski Murray Dahlin Jokiharju Samuelsson Pysyk Bryson Hagg Anderson UPL I'd trade Caggilua, Butcher, Eakin, Hayden and Bjork if teams are interested and if not, put them on the Taxi squad in case of Covid or Injuries. Bryson and Murray are probably on the bench until Hinostroza and Miller are traded. IMHO Quinn and Samuelsson and even Murray have proven they have nothing left to prove in the A and we therefore should be getting them NHL PT. They can always go down for the playoffs. UPL was a close call, but ultimately we need to find out if his good play here was an aberration or the start of something good. The only way to determine that is by playing him. The top 3 forward line, I think could be mix and match depending on who DG like together. I created a semi-D conscious 2nd line, and think the combo of Mitts, Tuch and Olofsson could generate a ton of offense. Edited January 22, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 I doubt that Hinostroza will be traded. Overall, he has been a good value addition. And I doubt that Bjork will be traded. He has value on the PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 I would switch Cozens with Thompson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 There is nothing ideal about a lineup we can ice for the rest of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Quinn - Mittelstadt - Tuch Asplund - Thompson - Olofsson Girgensons - Cozens - Okposo Skinner - Jankowski - Murray/Hinostroza (opponent dependent - do they need speed or size?) Dahlin - Pysyk Samuelsson - Jokiharju Power - Hagg/Bryson (Bryson if he can play his off wing (or Power is OK there), Hagg otherwise (on his off wing)) Anderson UPL (but if he falters at all, Tokarski takes that spot in a heartbeat) This all presumes no useful players come in via trade. Sadly, a safe assumption. Realistically, Skinner'll end up w/ Mitts, Asplund will be on the 4th line, Quinn will be on Thompson's line w/ Olofsson, & Eakin will get ice time over Jankowski. Would like to see Ruotsalainen earn a way into that lineup, too, but just not seeing it at present. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 I want Quinn and Samuelsson to go back to Rochester. Let them get some playoff experience that they won’t get in Buffalo. This is another lost season anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Skinner Mitts Tuch Olofsson Thompson Asplund Girgensons Cozens Okposo Bjork ??? Hayden Jankowski Caggiula Dahlin Jokiharju Power Pysyk Bryson ??? Butcher Anderson Tokarski ??? = salary dumps we take on to help cap-strapped teams Hinostroza, Eakin Hagg and Miller traded for late picks. Butcher, Hayden, Jankowski Caggiula available if there’s a market, but they won’t get much and we need players because this is what I want to see making a playoff run in Rochester: Peterka Malone Quinn Mersch Krebs Murray McInnis Ruotsalainen Weissbach Jobst Biro Pekar Samuelsson Fitzpatrick Johnson Prow Schuldt Laaksonen UPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, pastajoe said: I want Quinn and Samuelsson to go back to Rochester. Let them get some playoff experience that they won’t get in Buffalo. This is another lost season anyways. AHL season ends 1 week before NHL season does. There is a very strong likelihood that the Amerks will get a 1st round bye. Pretty sure if they're needed in Ra-cha-cha that last week of the NHL (& Quinn is healthy) they'll be leading the charge across the road from the Dinosaur. Doubt they will be needed that week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 One without injuries. After that, I won't be all that particular. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, pastajoe said: I want Quinn and Samuelsson to go back to Rochester. Let them get some playoff experience that they won’t get in Buffalo. This is another lost season anyways. I wouldn't send either back until I have to. Let them get nhl experience b4 next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 hours ago, JohnC said: I doubt that Hinostroza will be traded. Overall, he has been a good value addition. And I doubt that Bjork will be traded. He has value on the PK. Why do you doubt he’ll be traded? He is on cheap expiring contract, is having a good year, playoff teams need scoring depth and I doubt he has a place in next year’s lineup with all the kids likely getting jobs. Vogl in the Athletic has him, along with Miller and Hagg as our mostly likely trade pieces to bring good value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, dudacek said: Skinner Mitts Tuch Olofsson Thompson Asplund Girgensons Cozens Okposo Bjork ??? Hayden Jankowski Caggiula Dahlin Jokiharju Power Pysyk Bryson ??? Butcher Anderson Tokarski ??? = salary dumps we take on to help cap-strapped teams Hinostroza, Eakin Hagg and Miller traded for late picks. Butcher, Hayden, Jankowski Caggiula available if there’s a market, but they won’t get much and we need players because this is what I want to see making a playoff run in Rochester: Peterka Malone Quinn Mersch Krebs Murray McInnis Ruotsalainen Weissbach Jobst Biro Pekar Samuelsson Fitzpatrick Johnson Prow Schuldt Laaksonen UPL The Amerks really ice/potentially ice an all-left shot F lineup after Quinn? That’s so random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Why do you doubt he’ll be traded? He is on cheap expiring contract, is having a good year, playoff teams need scoring depth and I doubt he has a place in next year’s lineup with all the kids likely getting jobs. Vogl in the Athletic has him, along with Miller and Hagg as our mostly likely trade pieces to bring good value. Hinostroza is not a top two line player. That's understood. But on the third or fourth line he would be a good fit. I also think that there has to be enough veterans to help support the development of the younger players. For sure, he is not a prominent player but there is a support role that he can provide. It may not be fashionable to discuss the lowers line but upgrading them and raising the floor of the lines helps in the building of a more well-rounded team/roster. With respect to Vogl's opinion that the players he mentions are going to bring good value if dealt, I highly doubt it. The returns on the departed players, including Miller, will be inconsequential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, JohnC said: . With respect to Vogl's opinion that the players he mentions are going to bring good value if dealt, I highly doubt it. The returns on the departed players, including Miller, will be inconsequential. In the wake of Lebrun floating the first rounder request for Miller, people shouldn’t get their hopes up. Brandon Montour, who was a similar player, except better, on a slightly cheaper contract, netted a late 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Why are people saddling Cozens with Girgensens and Okposo? If I had my way those two would never see the ice again. The team we saw the last couple games without them was a better team than it was with them. They are not fast, stuck in their ways, and tainted by the losing years. Time to move on. I don't care about Rochester. Quinn is the only guy I'm sending back once he's fully healed because he's too physically underdeveloped at this point. Maybe send Krebs down if Mitts takes the 3C spot. maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 9 hours ago, pastajoe said: I want Quinn and Samuelsson to go back to Rochester. Let them get some playoff experience that they won’t get in Buffalo. This is another lost season anyways. I’m sure they will be on the Amerks playoff team. There’s a date they have to be on the Amerks roster. So they’ll get sent down for that date and then back up id guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 59 minutes ago, dudacek said: In the wake of Lebrun floating the first rounder request for Miller, people shouldn’t get their hopes up. Brandon Montour, who was a similar player, except better, on a slightly cheaper contract, netted a late 3rd. Because Miller is currently hurt if dealt I see bringing back maybe a fourth round pick. I agree with you that Montour was a better player. I know there are plenty of critics here of Miller but I'm not one of them. I see him as a third pairing player who can skate and shoot. If he wanted to stay I would have no problem retaining him if his contract was commensurate with his role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said: Why are people saddling Cozens with Girgensens and Okposo? If I had my way those two would never see the ice again. The team we saw the last couple games without them was a better team than it was with them. They are not fast, stuck in their ways, and tainted by the losing years. Time to move on. I don't care about Rochester. Quinn is the only guy I'm sending back once he's fully healed because he's too physically underdeveloped at this point. Maybe send Krebs down if Mitts takes the 3C spot. maybe. Why? Because Granato likes to give Cozens shutdown responsibilities & those 2 are the Sabres best shut down wingers. Also, Okposo can & does still contribute offensively. But, as said in the GDT, would also be interested in seeing Cozens between Skinner & Tuch. If that line were together would flip Cozens and Mitts in the post above. And if Krebs can keep playing like he did today, will have to find a spot for him in that lineup as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Because Miller is currently hurt if dealt I see bringing back maybe a fourth round pick. I agree with you that Montour was a better player. I know there are plenty of critics here of Miller but I'm not one of them. I see him as a third pairing player who can skate and shoot. If he wanted to stay I would have no problem retaining him if his contract was commensurate with his role. Leafs’ great GM and Coach were in the same positions in Sault Ste Marie (OHL) while Colin Miller was a star Dman and their captain. Maybe they feel he is the missing piece for a playoff run. I think he is worth a 2nd and maybe more if salary is retained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Skinner - Thompson - Tuch Olofsson - Cozens - Quinn Asplund - Krebs - Okposo Murray - Mittelstadt- Hinostroza Edited January 23, 2022 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Taro T said: Why? Because Granato likes to give Cozens shutdown responsibilities & those 2 are the Sabres best shut down wingers. Also, Okposo can & does still contribute offensively. But, as said in the GDT, would also be interested in seeing Cozens between Skinner & Tuch. If that line were together would flip Cozens and Mitts in the post above. And if Krebs can keep playing like he did today, will have to find a spot for him in that lineup as well. We just played one of our best games of the year, and Cozens looked good, and those two were not there. Consider that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 10 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Why are people saddling Cozens with Girgensens and Okposo? If I had my way those two would never see the ice again. The team we saw the last couple games without them was a better team than it was with them. They are not fast, stuck in their ways, and tainted by the losing years. Time to move on. I don't care about Rochester. Quinn is the only guy I'm sending back once he's fully healed because he's too physically underdeveloped at this point. Maybe send Krebs down if Mitts takes the 3C spot. maybe. Kyle Okposo: 23pts in 37 games I would play him with Cozens or Mitts for sure. Whichever needs the veteran stabilizer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: We just played one of our best games of the year, and Cozens looked good, and those two were not there. Consider that. Against a team that is currently a raging tire fire coached by Mike friggin' (how does he keep getting hired?) Yeo. Consider that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Skinner-Thompson-Tuch Olofsson-Mitts-Quinn Krebs-Cozens-Okposo Girgs-Jankowski-Asplund Until Power joins the D group plus I think they have to get a veteran RHD that plays a Samuelsson type game, there's no telling how this group will shake out. Plus 1 of those LHD's is going to have to move to the right side if they want to get any significant playing time with the club moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Against a team that is currently a raging tire fire coached by Mike friggin' (how does he keep getting hired?) Yeo. Consider that. There's a lot more JBotts in this league than your giving teams credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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