dudacek Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 I've thought Casey looked to be labouring since his most recent return. Mostly took that as being out-of-shape. Now I'm wondering if he's been rushed back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Any word on Casey? The last I thought I heard about him was from the game during intermission. If my memory is good.. They couldn't find any point in the first that he got injured, they did review video and for 2 shifts his skating looked labored. Think they sat him just to be safe. Edited January 31, 2022 by woods-racer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: I've thought Casey looked to be labouring since his most recent return. Mostly took that as being out-of-shape. Now I'm wondering if he's been rushed back. He may have been rushed in the sense he played on back to back nights. He so far out of shape that they should have sat him last night is the vibe I got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Questionable training and medical staff remains Questionable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: Questionable training and medical staff remains Questionable Or the player is so competitive that he wasn't truthful with them and wanted to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Thorny said: Questionable training and medical staff remains Questionable Is it bad training staff or a super thin roster devastated by injury and Covid or both? I’m not sure myself, but it does seem like we are rushing guys back, but partly because we have no choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, woods-racer said: Or the player is so competitive that he wasn't truthful with them and wanted to play. I feel like that would be run of the mill for plenty of athletes. It’s their job to be able to know what’s *actually* going on with the players medically - literally. We can’t have this both ways. Adams had no problem disregarding what Eichel wanted for his body, due to the advice of his medical staff. He’s being applauded for that, no? He needs to be getting proper info from his medical staff, then, and that applies to Casey Mittelstadt There’s a double standard coming to the surface here. ”We need to listen to the advice of our trained medical team, re Eichel” ”We need to default to what Casey thinks he should do today re his injury, it’s the players’ choice” Bologna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Is it bad training staff or a super thin roster devastated by injury and Covid or both? I’m not sure myself, but it does seem like we are rushing guys back, but partly because we have no choice. There’s always a choice that doesn’t involve playing injured players if you believe they could get re-injured more easily. That shouldn’t be an option. Considering this has seemingly been an issue since well, well before covid, that factor doesn’t represent a compelling variable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Thorny said: Questionable training and medical staff remains Questionable Why not. 🙄 Edited January 31, 2022 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Mitts is like Santa. You get excited for him, he shows up and does cool stuff then you have to wait another year for it to happen again.😁 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Thorny said: I feel like that would be run of the mill for plenty of athletes. It’s their job to be able to know what’s *actually* going on with the players medically - literally. We can’t have this both ways. Adams had no problem disregarding what Eichel wanted for his body, due to the advice of his medical staff. He’s being applauded for that, no? He needs to be getting proper info from his medical staff, then, and that applies to Casey Mittelstadt There’s a double standard coming to the surface here. ”We need to listen to the advice of our trained medical team, re Eichel” ”We need to default to what Casey thinks he should do today re his injury, it’s the players’ choice” Bologna. Did they x-ray, scan, poke, prod, then send all the results to 6 specialist around the country with Mitt's results to see if he should play in a back to back? Your comparing apples and oranges. He said he could go till the medical staff said he couldn't go. For all we know he still wanted to be on the ice playing. Edited January 31, 2022 by woods-racer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Mitts is like Santa. You get excited for him, he shows up and does cool stuff then you have to wait another year for it to happen again.😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, dudacek said: I've thought Casey looked to be labouring since his most recent return. Mostly took that as being out-of-shape. Now I'm wondering if he's been rushed back. The training staff should have put him through a fitness test before letting him play. Either the test isn't difficult enough, or there was no test.... it was obvious he wasn't ready to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, woods-racer said: He may have been rushed in the sense he played on back to back nights. He so far out of shape that they should have sat him last night is the vibe I got. Altitude and just coming back into game shape. Probably winded as hell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, woods-racer said: Did they x-ray, scan, poke, prod, then send all the results to 6 specialist around the country with Mitt's results to see if he should play in a back to back? Your comparing apples and oranges. He said he could go till the medical staff said he couldn't go. For all we know he still wanted to be on the ice playing. That’s my point - it looks very possible the staff gave them bad advice. We are touting the “he can only rely on his staff!” angle as if it’s foolproof when there is a ton of mounting evidence they are an issue I said the medical staff is questionable and I stand by that. Is it your position that, regardless of everything we have seen, they are beyond questioning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Mitts is like Santa. You get excited for him, he shows up and does cool stuff then you have to wait another year for it to happen again.😁 Much like my sex life 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Thorny said: That’s my point - it looks very possible the staff gave them bad advice. We are touting the “he can only rely on his staff!” angle as if it’s foolproof when there is a ton of mounting evidence they are an issue I said the medical staff is questionable and I stand by that. Is it your position that, regardless of everything we have seen, they are beyond questioning? They are not beyond questioning. But it's a two way street. Playing injured is something they do every game and each players pain threshold is different. They are making a judgment call to sit a player that wants to play and felt he should play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, pi2000 said: The training staff should have put him through a fitness test before letting him play. Either the test isn't difficult enough, or there was no test.... it was obvious he wasn't ready to play. Maybe the thin air affected him more than the other players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, bob_sauve28 said: Maybe the thin air affected him more than the other players? Because he was the least in shape player on the ice. He probably did his stretches' and his warm ups just fine and the staff watched him closely. The game started and he couldn't catch his breathe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, pi2000 said: The training staff should have put him through a fitness test before letting him play. Either the test isn't difficult enough, or there was no test.... it was obvious he wasn't ready to play. Apparently he did two pull-ups, so they figured he was ahead of schedule. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Maybe the thin air affected him more than the other players? Trying to Merc Jack holes in Fortnite from 500 meters with two NPCs firing Stinger sub machine guns at you, while you are performing evasive maneuvers, in the high altitude thin air is challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, inkman said: Trying to Merc Jack holes in Fortnite from 500 meters with two NPCs firing Stinger sub machine guns at you, while you are performing evasive maneuvers, in the high altitude thin air is challenging. Movie quote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, Claude Balls said: Apparently he did two pull-ups, so they figured he was ahead of schedule. hahahaha Seriously tho, there's all types of fitness tests... on-ice, off-ice (eg, VO2 max) etc... He looked completely gassed 15 seconds into his first shift in Ottawa last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Movie quote? Just a snap shot into the life of inkman, although my poor air quality is self induced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Do we even know his complete injury situation? I think the feeling was he got slashed in the beginning of the year and it messed up his wrist. Maybe he's got a rib issue too which, as anyone who's broken or bruised ribs knows, never seems to get better you have to just learn to function through the pain, until months later when you realize it doesn't hurt anymore. That could be an explanation why he's looked so gassed, particularly at altitude. Edited January 31, 2022 by The Ghost of Yuri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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