bob_sauve28 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, SDS said: So Terry and Kim Pegula, standing in front of a microphone, saying more colossally stupid things than usual, is going to prevent someone from making the wrong call in the future? What they would be saying wouldn’t be stupid at all. When incompetent people do incompetent things they should be called out. That’s how change happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, SDS said: You want an owner to get in front of a microphone and embarrass themselves? Good plan. Yes. But they don't need a microphone their franchise is embarrassing enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 6 hours ago, calti said: Also....and lets all admit it... The beginning of the answer to the franchise's problems is living in Rochester NY. Yes Mike Peca--the baddest 180LB man in league history. Lets use him . The man is tougher than Bobby Clarke and a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Ah the ‘90s. That hit was so ridiculously late. And the announcers don’t even notice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, dudacek said: Ah the ‘90s. That hit was so ridiculously late. And the announcers don’t even notice. Oh come on, why you got to be negative on a Buffalo legend? Rules were enforced differently back then. In those days that was not late at all. Hence, the announcers didn't comment on it. I had a Caps feed for the game tonight and they were laughing to each other about the Sabres low hit total from the Rangers game. So make of that what you will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Peca is one of my all-time favourites. Was just trying to point out how much the game has changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 20 hours ago, PASabreFan said: If you change your phony avatar. #2022 That’s a. Gucci sunglasses pic I did. Not phony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 2:26 PM, kas23 said: You want him to suit up? I want tougher players.. Cripe if we are going to be a bunch of softees at least have some talent. The sabres are a bigger laughingstock than the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, calti said: I want tougher players.. Cripe if we are going to be a bunch of softees at least have some talent. The sabres are a bigger laughingstock than the Bills. Bills: “hold my beer” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, calti said: I want tougher players.. A lot of the younger posters here don't believe in this, but I'm with you. Ideally I'd like some Pecas or Mays, talent with toughness, but even some scrappy Briere types as a start, or just some toughness to protect the so called talent we have coming. It's been a really really long time since this team wasn't among the softest in the league, and right now I'd guess we are just about #1 on the softness spectrum. Maybe Vancouver. Toronto and Edmonton are still soft overall, but they have a few guys on each roster that make them tougher than us. The stench of Lucic on Miller has never left this team. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: A lot of the younger posters here don't believe in this, but I'm with you. Ideally I'd like some Pecas or Mays, talent with toughness, but even some scrappy Briere types as a start, or just some toughness to protect the so called talent we have coming. It's been a really really long time since this team wasn't among the softest in the league, and right now I'd guess we are just about #1 on the softness spectrum. Maybe Vancouver. Toronto and Edmonton are still soft overall, but they have a few guys on each roster that make them tougher than us. The stench of Lucic on Miller has never left this team. The Lucic incident ....the low point in the 50+ yrs of this franchise. PS--letting Briere get away as well as Drury was the 2nd lowest point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 3:53 PM, kas23 said: You left out: Do not give up 3 goal leads. It’s not just for ED anymore. As I’ve been harping on for months. You want to start turning the corner and becoming a winning franchise again, get real goaltending. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 13 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: A lot of the younger posters here don't believe in this, but I'm with you. Ideally I'd like some Pecas or Mays, talent with toughness, but even some scrappy Briere types as a start, or just some toughness to protect the so called talent we have coming. It's been a really really long time since this team wasn't among the softest in the league, and right now I'd guess we are just about #1 on the softness spectrum. Maybe Vancouver. Toronto and Edmonton are still soft overall, but they have a few guys on each roster that make them tougher than us. The stench of Lucic on Miller has never left this team. Honestly - I don’t talk a lot about toughness, but you may be surprised to hear it’s not because I don’t think it’s important. It’s because in my mind it represents “a bridge too far” in terms of Sabres stuff I worry about right now. When does the type of grit you are referring to become paramount? The time of year, every year, when the game the NHL plays literally changes into something significantly different to its regular season form (unlike the other major sports): playoff time. As things stand, I actually do think the team/players will be in for a wake up call if they eventually get there. Being an NHL GM has an extra, severe degree of difficulty attached to it in that you really have to build a team with the ability to play in two distinct “leagues”, should you have playoff aspirations. For me, I’m just counting on getting there. Have been for a while. Can’t even bring myself to worrying about that next stage yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 Who remembers a bumper sticker from the mid 80’s that said, “Bring Pro Football Back to Buffalo”? Let’s fix that and substitute hockey in place of football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Thorny said: Honestly - I don’t talk a lot about toughness, but you may be surprised to hear it’s not because I don’t think it’s important. It’s because in my mind it represents “a bridge too far” in terms of Sabres stuff I worry about right now. When does the type of grit you are referring to become paramount? The time of year, every year, when the game the NHL plays literally changes into something significantly different to its regular season form (unlike the other major sports): playoff time. As things stand, I actually do think the team/players will be in for a wake up call if they eventually get there. Being an NHL GM has an extra, severe degree of difficulty attached to it in that you really have to build a team with the ability to play in two distinct “leagues”, should you have playoff aspirations. For me, I’m just counting on getting there. Have been for a while. Can’t even bring myself to worrying about that next stage yet I don't disagree with you entirely, but I think it's easier to add toughness and it's important to have it as part of the culture so that the young players coming in feel both protected, and also learn to play tougher themselves. When a talented guy knows someone on that roster has his back he's more inclined to get into the thick of it or drive the net, he becomes more fearless and thus better. I don't mind Cozens having a fight, but I'd rather he didn't have to because someone e4lse has his back, and by extension other teams take less liberties. We're not good enough yet, not enough of a threat, for other teams to play us tough, but if we get more talented with these kids next year they are going to get banged around and roughed up as intimidation might not be 70s hockey, or even 90s hockey, but it still exists and teams will use it if they see a weakness, and some of those kids might get intimidated or hurt. Toughness is easier to find, so why haven't we put that on the roster first, instead of some of the useless jags we've added? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:12 AM, Radar said: These owners became invisible as soon as there was any media criticism. They started out much more visible it seems when fans were excited after purchasing the franchises. They are clueless owners whose only hope is catching lightning in a bottle. They are up front and and center at Bills games. Kim wears Bills colors and smiles a lot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 5 hours ago, FogBat said: Who remembers a bumper sticker from the mid 80’s that said, “Bring Pro Football Back to Buffalo”? Let’s fix that and substitute hockey in place of football. That’s a great way to give the team some confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) On 12/11/2021 at 3:38 PM, calti said: Also....and lets all admit it... The beginning of the answer to the franchise's problems is living in Rochester NY. Yes Mike Peca--the baddest 180LB man in league history. Lets use him . The man is tougher than Bobby Clarke and a winner. Let’s leave Michael right were he is at. He is learning. Yes, a Very good coaching prospect, and has a ways to go. Buffalo fans (Bills and Sabres) don’t understand that coaches and GMs learn, improve, and evolve. When you hire young ones you have to make a commitment. I am reading that many people on TBD want to see McDermott fired. Talk about not getting it. Edited December 15, 2021 by Pimlach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Pimlach said: They are up front and and center at Bills games. Kim wears Bills colors and smiles a lot. How's that going for the Bills these days? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postseasonblues Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 When's the parade and when are they raising the banners for last year's cup. Let's start acting like they won something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 10:58 AM, PASabreFan said: START ACTING LIKE A WINNING, NHL FRANCHISE!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 4:24 PM, Pimlach said: Let’s leave Michael right were he is at. He is learning. Yes, a Very good coaching prospect, and has a ways to go. Buffalo fans (Bills and Sabres) don’t understand that coaches and GMs learn, improve, and evolve. When you hire young ones you have to make a commitment. I am reading that many people on TBD want to see McDermott fired. Talk about not getting it. I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 7:24 PM, sabresparaavida said: That’s a great way to give the team some confidence Obviously, the positive results didn’t happen overnight back then. Kay Stephenson had such a short tenure, and Hank Bullough was HATED by his own players - to the point where they called him “brain cell” (per Fred Smerlas). Just saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 I refuse to read one single word in this thread. Just shut it down already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, inkman said: I refuse to read one single word in this thread. Just shut it down already. I would. But I didn't read anything you just wrote. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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