bob_sauve28 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Granato basically says Dahlin is a coach pleaser in that he wants to know what the coach needs him to do. Granato had to tell him he has the answer and knows what to do. This 100% in my mind explains why Krueger ruined Dahlin. Jack Eichel will never play for this team again unless it is a couple games to prove he is healthy enough for a trade. A couple of games turns into ten games, then twenty... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 Listening to Granato is such a breath of fresh air. He seems direct, authentic and passionate, never trying to B.S. or make it about himself. I think he is the right guy to get through this mess. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Granato is speaking now Great clip. The one thing that is obvious is that as a coach one of his strongest attributes is that he has an understanding of the psychology of the player and person. My sense is that he is not a system coach. His approach is to understand what the specific talents are of the individual players and then attempt to put them in the best situation to succeed. He seems to understand the challenging situation he is in and is embracing it. He is the right coach at this time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, JohnC said: Great clip. The one thing that is obvious is that as a coach one of his strongest attributes is that he has an understanding of the psychology of the player and person. My sense is that he is not a system coach. His approach is to understand what the specific talents are of the individual players and then attempt to put them in the best situation to succeed. He seems to understand the challenging situation he is in and is embracing it. He is the right coach at this time. I thought he kind of did have a system of "Turn and burn." Get moving up ice with speed as quickly as possible and hit the blue line running. Reminded me of how Tampa plays. That's why the drafting of fast players. But that's just my perception 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, bob_sauve28 said: I thought he kind of did have a system of "Turn and burn." Get moving up ice with speed as quickly as possible and hit the blue line running. Reminded me of how Tampa plays. That's why the drafting of fast players. But that's just my perception I agree with you that he does stress a high tempo style of play. It's not so much a complex system as it is a style of play. But as you pointed out that in itself is a system. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: I thought he kind of did have a system of "Turn and burn." Get moving up ice with speed as quickly as possible and hit the blue line running. Reminded me of how Tampa plays. That's why the drafting of fast players. But that's just my perception Based on what we saw after he improved their conditioning when Krueger left, I’d say your perception is spot on. He wants speed in every zone from what I saw. Speed and pressure. It’s a good strategy because if you aren’t as talented as the opponent, you especially need to be a pain in the ass to play against. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, dudacek said: This is fair. Maybe my gut reaction was wrong. That would be how I'd have done it. Not necessarily. The sensations that you are feeling are the same convolution of feelings that all of us are feeling. We would like this saga to be over with and resolved one way or the other. Sometimes the hardest thing to deal with is not the challenging situation in of itself as much as the length of time it takes for it to be resolved. This high stake issue (for the player and franchise) was never going to be a quick fix situation. And that is why it has become so exasperating. Maybe the best approach is to put it on the shelf and focus on those who are on the ice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresVet Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Listening to Granato is such a breath of fresh air. He seems direct, authentic and passionate, never trying to B.S. or make it about himself. I think he is the right guy to get through this mess. Indeed. Even if he maximizes the talent on that roster, it won't be enough to be better than a bottom quartile NHL franchise. A coach has a limited sphere of influence over an organization. Even the best coaches need more talent and it's a complete unknown how Adams provides that. Otherwise, Granato is set up to fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: A couple of games turns into ten games, then twenty... Are you for real right now.....? Are there people out there who still think the door is open for an Eichel/Sabres relationship mending? At this point, the situation looks so toxic that I don’t see how anyone even thinks it’s a good idea for him to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 Adams came across well again today as a leader. His constant preaching of earning it and giving the fans what they deserve resonates big time with me. Hopefully his staff can recognize and develop talent because I think he's doing the culture thing right. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Curt said: Are you for real right now.....? Are there people out there who still think the door is open for an Eichel/Sabres relationship mending? At this point, the situation looks so toxic that I don’t see how anyone even thinks it’s a good idea for him to come back. If he comes back, and he will have to, and there is success, ya, I could see happy smiling faces. In life, anything is possible with winning. If he comes back and they lose, that will just be more frustration and anger (probable outcome, imo) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: If he comes back, and he will have to, and there is success, ya, I could see happy smiling faces. In life, anything is possible with winning. If he comes back and they lose, that will just be more frustration and anger (probable outcome, imo) No offense, but I think this take is delusional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said: A couple of games turns into ten games, then twenty... And then Jack hoisting the Cup for the Sabres (after all the C's and A's do first, of course) 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Maybe the best approach is to put it on the shelf and focus on those who are on the ice. I think that's EXACTLY why Adams took the C from Jack. This isn't about him anymore. Move on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 While Granato says he will not be conservative, a few blowout losses early on, may change his mind. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: While Granato says he will not be conservative, a few blowout losses early on, may change his mind. 😉 I think that depends on the specific types of mistakes being made on the ice and by whom that lead to the blowout losses. DG strikes me as someone who finds teaching opportunities, regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: I think that depends on the specific types of mistakes being made on the ice and by whom that lead to the blowout losses. DG strikes me as someone who finds teaching opportunities, regardless. When he finds out he doesn’t have a single goalie who can stop a puck? Then what? 😱 Edited September 23, 2021 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: When he finds out he doesn’t have a single goalie who can stop a puck? Then what? 😱 We will find out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: When he finds out he doesn’t have a single goalie who can stop a puck? Then what? That's the fear. If the GTing is as bad as expected, the team will necessarily learn bad habits in their own end as massive shot suppression will be required. But that will actually result in more HQ chances than if they just play it straight. You can hide a lot of weaknesses to a degree. But awful goaltending is there for all to see. Hopefully Bales lives up to his reputation or this will become an interminably long season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: While Granato says he will not be conservative, a few blowout losses early on, may change his mind. 😉 No, he'll just work on scoring more 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 The key will be, "are the mistakes of commission and not omission". They will forgive "try too hard" mistakes and mistakes of inexperience. Mistakes of laziness or lack of discipline? No way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in dc Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 I don’t give a flying f**k in a rolling donut about Eichel. Move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, lost in dc said: I don’t give a flying f**k in a rolling donut about Eichel. Move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Curt said: No offense, but I think this take is delusional. Never know man we might surprise people We could possibly be a Stanley cup container and then Jacks tays for the run and we win the cup .. Or it might be the 6 shots of whiskey I just took Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indabuff Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: We could possibly be a Stanley cup container and then Jacks tays for the run and we win the cup .. Or it might be the 6 shots of whiskey I just took That's entirely plausible since I thought you were referring to knockoff Tupperware. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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