Huckleberry Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Hoss said: Pagnotta says there's no concern between the Panthers and Samson's agent about getting a long-term deal done. Samson is "absolutely pumped." https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/busy-draft-could-lead-to-busy-week#.YP2zigjAMTo.twitter Should have gotten way more then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Should have gotten way more then... Unless they way over pay, which is likely for him to give up the opportunity at restricted free agency. Then they paid dearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said: Unless they way over pay, which is likely for him to give up the opportunity at restricted free agency. Then they paid dearly. I would get a hardy chuckle if they give him 9 mil per year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, thewookie1 said: I would get a hardy chuckle if they give him 9 mil per year. Would have offered him 7x7 myself though. But I think the samson deal might hinder them long term capwise. Well the bobrovsky deal already did that I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, 7+6=13 said: What's appalling is, Florida traded a nice goalie prospect and their 1st round pick for a player that isn't going to sign there. From that, you and others will understand why we couldn't get more. You probably haven’t seen Sams comments then about an extension.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Like an agent is gonna publicly say the exact opposite after his client was just traded 😂 “Sam is aggravated he was traded to the Panthers. He’ll make the best of it and see how he feels next spring” His agent saying what he said, to me … is nothing new. Hundreds of agents have pretty much said this before him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Hoss said: Pagnotta says there's no concern between the Panthers and Samson's agent about getting a long-term deal done. Samson is "absolutely pumped." https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagnotta/busy-draft-could-lead-to-busy-week#.YP2zigjAMTo.twitter Means nothing until the ink is dry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: You probably haven’t seen Sams comments then about an extension.. Actually, all the quotes I've seen have been about Sam signing a contract. I haven't seen him say anything about term. That seems to be inferred by the Panther peeps. Remember he's an unsigned RFA at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 You could play Eakin on the wing like was being said, and still keep Girgs there: Asplund - Mitts - Tage Olofsson - Cozens - Bjork Skinner - Ruotsainen - Okposo Eakin - Girgensons - Fogartyorwhoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: You could play Eakin on the wing like was being said, and still keep Girgs there: Asplund - Mitts - Tage Olofsson - Cozens - Bjork Skinner - Ruotsainen - Okposo Eakin - Girgensons - Fogartyorwhoever I'd rather re-sign Sheahan and let Eaks ride the pine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, Doohickie said: I'd rather re-sign Sheahen and let Eaks ride the pine. If those are the choices? whichever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) I prefer Sheahan 123% over Eakin. Sheahan is not great, but consistent and dependable and can even play a line or two up. Eakin is just not very good. EDIT: I looked at some stats and you're basically right: They're not all that different. Sheahan is a bit better, but not much. However when I watch them play I cringe a lot more at the stuff Eakin does. 2nd EDIT: Considering we have to sign Sheahan to a roster spot, having only one of those two is probably enough. Edited July 26, 2021 by Doohickie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Even if Sam doesn't want to be in Florida long term, is there a better short term gig? Beaches and sunshine, good hockey team, 1 year until he goes where he wants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Thorny said: Agree on all the Reinhart stuff for sure. Don't like the term "fast rebuild". The veterans Murray sought to acquire may have been incorrectly identified, or acquired at the wrong time, but IMO he was addressing a component that needs to be there in any rebuild with a fighting chance - the capable vet insulation of the youth. I don't think those pieces make it "fast", I think they are necessary. My problem with Murray’s rebuild is that I though he gave up too much, and did nit simultaneously build Rochester with a pipeline of players for the future. We have already debated this. I agree with the need for capable vet infusion, and they to be the right vets. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 If Reino were going to sign an extension with a trade partner, Florida checks a lot of boxes. A franchise center in Barkov plus another star forward in Hubie, a strong #1 defenseman in Ekblad, good goaltending, credible coaching in Q, playoff team that had a very good season last year and seems to be on the rise and Florida weather, low taxes and low pressure. I can see him deciding to stay if they make him a good offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Even if Sam doesn't want to be in Florida long term, is there a better short term gig? Beaches and sunshine, good hockey team, 1 year until he goes where he wants and no state income tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: You could play Eakin on the wing like was being said, and still keep Girgs there: Asplund - Mitts - Tage Olofsson - Cozens - Bjork Skinner - Ruotsainen - Okposo Eakin - Girgensons - Fogartyorwhoever You could also play Eakin on Jupiter and run Daniel Briere's corpse onto the ice instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Thorny said: You could play Eakin on the wing like was being said, and still keep Girgs there: Asplund - Mitts - Tage Olofsson - Cozens - Bjork Skinner - Ruotsainen - Okposo Eakin - Girgensons - Fogartyorwhoever If they can avoid playing Girgensons at C they should not play him there IMHO. It's been years since he played it regularly and he's a better W at this point. Would really like to see them find a reliable C for Z & Okposo because those 2 will be facing a lot of top lines if they don't want to give the kids PTSD after 82. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, Taro T said: If they can avoid playing Girgensons at C they should not play him there IMHO. It's been years since he played it regularly and he's a better W at this point. Would really like to see them find a reliable C for Z & Okposo because those 2 will be facing a lot of top lines if they don't want to give the kids PTSD after 82. I'd pair Okposo with Mitts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Doohickie said: Means nothing until the ink is dry. Moist is a problem for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, inkman said: Moist is a problem for me. You're not alone. A lot of people don't like the word moist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, Doohickie said: You're not alone. A lot of people don't like the word moist. I forgot the word “not”. also, the moist trope is played out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: I'd pair Okposo with Mitts Wouldn't hate that & it gets Mittelstadt away from Thompson. But, afraid that if there isn't a true attempt at recreating a Larsson line (and Okposo & Girgensons almost definitely need to be 2 pieces of one) to take the toughest minutes that the Mittelstadt line & especially the Cozens line will get exposed badly. Whether Cozens has Skinner & Olofsson or one of those with Tage, Bjork, or Ruotsalainen on the other wing that line should be decent in the offensive zone but don't know how often they'll actually get there as that could be really bad in its own end. Know Adams won't, but really would like to see him reconsider punting Eichel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Doohickie said: I prefer Sheahan 123% over Eakin. Sheahan is not great, but consistent and dependable and can even play a line or two up. Eakin is just not very good. EDIT: I looked at some stats and you're basically right: They're not all that different. Sheahan is a bit better, but not much. However when I watch them play I cringe a lot more at the stuff Eakin does. 2nd EDIT: Considering we have to sign Sheahan to a roster spot, having only one of those two is probably enough. Watching eakin was just brutal. He does nothing well. He's the forward version of irwin. Doesn't pass well, cant skate, and for a "defensive forward" he's constantly out of position or making mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said: Watching eakin was just brutal. He does nothing well. He's the forward version of irwin. Doesn't pass well, cant skate, and for a "defensive forward" he's constantly out of position or making mistakes. Yes. I was surprised his stat line was not *much* worse than Sheahan's. I suspect Sheahan's minutes were tougher... but he was still a little better than Eaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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