JoeSchmoe Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, Hoss said: Junior hockey players from around the world who are under 20 competing for a championship for their country. So you mean the U-20 World Hockey Championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Ok. Maybe not a 1 this year but my point is more on not focusing on the 7th round aspect given his play in the under 20. The NHL draft is difficult because they draft 18 year olds and a lot of changes happen, or don’t happen in the next 3-4 years. Levi is trending in the right direction right now. I would love to see all three of our prospects develop and give us a surplus at a critical position. I like that Adams brought in a goalie, now he needs to address NHL goaltending for this season and not make it a miserable year. I am concerned about center. That is why I would be in no hurry to trade Eichel. Without him we are dead up the middle. He is on contract so an Eichel trade must return a 1C and provide other long term benefits to the Sabres. What does it matter? This team isn't doing anything for the next couple years anyway, keeping Eichel does nothing to help except probably makes him more miserable that Risto and Sam are gone and he is stuck in Buffalo on another losing team. They won't be getting a player that can be dropped in to replace him, good teams are looking to improve their roster, not tread water. they might get someone close to being NHL ready, but its not going to help the C position unless that player comes out and has a huge breakout year. With Risto and Sam being traded, its just a matter of time (most likely soon) that Jack is traded too. You can't trade both of them and turn around to keep Jack without him being disgruntled and angrier at the team. Trying to forsce him to play this year would most likely push him over the edge of sitting out until he's moved. 5 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: So you mean the U-20 World Hockey Championships. Usually just called 'The World Juniors', happens every year the day after Christmas....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Usually just called 'The World Juniors', happens every year the day after Christmas....... Yeah... I'm Canadian and have watched it ever since I can remember (30+ years). I thought I'd give it the official terminology though to someone that said he never played the in "the Worlds or the Juniors". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Pimlach said: Ok, thanks for clarifying. I lost track of that one. We get a Philly 2 next year. No we get a 2nd in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: So you mean the U-20 World Hockey Championships. That's well known as the World Juniors 12 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Yeah... I'm Canadian and have watched it ever since I can remember (30+ years). I thought I'd give it the official terminology though to someone that said he never played the in "the Worlds or the Juniors". He didn't. The World Juniors is not the same as the Worlds or Juniors. Which I get the impression you know. Edited July 25, 2021 by LGR4GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: That's all know as the World Juniors You know and some others know but I don't think That's All Know. 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: That's well known as the World Juniors He didn't. The World Juniors is not the same as the Worlds or Juniors. Which I get the impression you know. Agreed, but "The Juniors" is most definitely the U-20 championships. And who calls it the "Classic" unless they're referring to the outdoor game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Yeah... I'm Canadian and have watched it ever since I can remember (30+ years). I thought I'd give it the official terminology though to someone that said he never played the in "the Worlds or the Juniors". yeah, I have never heard it reference as the 'World Junior Classic', Its usually just 'The World Juniors', And its pretty much the Only thing Canadians care about and watch right when Christmas is done. The 'Classic' is usually used for the Outdoor game played in the US on New Years day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Agreed, but "The Juniors" is most definitely the U-20 championships. And who calls it the "Classic" unless they're referring to the outdoor game. I was giving the full name because my post was intended as a clarification and wanted to provide the clearest context for those less familiar with the international tournament setup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Buffalonill said: That could be possible maybe 25g -30g but this team is going to be bad If Reino and Eichel aren't playing big minutes, someone else will fill the void. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have a 30 goal scorer but we have five or six 20 goal scorers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Doohickie said: If Reino and Eichel aren't playing big minutes, someone else will fill the void. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have a 30 goal scorer but we have five or six 20 goal scorers. Six 20 goal scorers? Did you just get your hopium booster shot this morning? I’d be happy if they could get 6 15 goal scorers. Maybe there is roster player(s) coming back in the Jack deal, but if futures not sure. #loweredexpectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 Can someone clarify this: I heard the plan is that Levi stays 4 years and is a UFA. If this is true what did we actually acquire of any value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 6 hours ago, North Buffalo said: Yeh if Sabres dont get huge return for Jack... gotta say they will be unwatchable Come on. They were unwatchable WITH Jack (and Sam and Rsito). They looked (finally) a little watchable end of the year with Granato. In that case with Sam and Risto but no Jack. Don't think it'll be much different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: No we get a 2nd in 2023 Geesh, I must be getting old. I can remember 50 years ago likes it was yesterday, and 5 days ago requires research. thanks for the update, again, 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Doohickie said: Skinner. This past season Granato concentrated on developing the youth. This season I think he will work on integrating the youth and the veterans. I bet he plays on Cozens' wing and pots a few dozen for Cozens. It's sad but likely true that Skinner will be the most exciting forward on the team once Jack is traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Come on. They were unwatchable WITH Jack (and Sam and Rsito). They looked (finally) a little watchable end of the year with Granato. In that case with Sam and Risto but no Jack. Don't think it'll be much different. I think we will miss Risto and it will show in games this season vs. last 1/3 of last season. No Jack so that variable is eliminated. Although Sam will definitely be missed as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, Doohickie said: If Reino and Eichel aren't playing big minutes, someone else will fill the void. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have a 30 goal scorer but we have five or six 20 goal scorers. Thats very Optimistic seeing how tampa, Avalanche are the only ones doing that at this moment .and we haven't had that since 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, sabremike said: Can someone clarify this: I heard the plan is that Levi stays 4 years and is a UFA. If this is true what did we actually acquire of any value? Same thing can be said about power lol they will sign though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: What does it matter? This team isn't doing anything for the next couple years anyway, keeping Eichel does nothing to help except probably makes him more miserable that Risto and Sam are gone and he is stuck in Buffalo on another losing team. They won't be getting a player that can be dropped in to replace him, good teams are looking to improve their roster, not tread water. they might get someone close to being NHL ready, but its not going to help the C position unless that player comes out and has a huge breakout year. With Risto and Sam being traded, its just a matter of time (most likely soon) that Jack is traded too. You can't trade both of them and turn around to keep Jack without him being disgruntled and angrier at the team. Trying to forsce him to play this year would most likely push him over the edge of sitting out until he's moved. It matters because we have nothing at center and we are going to killed, further hurting the morale and development of the young players. I’m sick of losing. We definitely can get a 1C back, at least a solid 1C prospect that is near ready for NHL ice. Remember the Briere trade? It’s time for KA to make a hockey trade. Time to end the defeatist attitude of this franchise and start trying to compete and win. And if Jack has a bad attitude, which I don’t think he will, he is hurting himself He needs to take a page from Reinhart, which is to shut up and play hard until the deal is done. I really would not trade him until I had a trade I that I felt great about. But I’m no GM, I only play an old and crusty one on the internet. Edited July 26, 2021 by Pimlach 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, sabremike said: Can someone clarify this: I heard the plan is that Levi stays 4 years and is a UFA. If this is true what did we actually acquire of any value? Where did you hear that is the plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Weave said: I think we will miss Risto and it will show in games this season vs. last 1/3 of last season. No Jack so that variable is eliminated. Although Sam will definitely be missed as well. Oh I agree entirely. I think he will flourish in Philly and fans will love him. Wouldn't be surprised if he signs long term there and ends up playing solid second pairing minutes. Not sure who he will partner with. Sanheim I guess. Provorov and Ellis as the top pairing. Their D is no longer the joke it was this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sabremike Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eleven said: Where did you hear that is the plan? Was a Button video but it was under the assumption his path was blocked by Knight so that has probably changed (this was clarified to me elsewhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, sabremike said: Was a Button video but it was under the assumption his path was blocked by Knight so that has probably changed (this was clarified to me elsewhere). Phew ok good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said: #loweredexpectations. Never! 😛 28 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Thats very Optimistic seeing how tampa, Avalanche are the only ones doing that at this moment .and we haven't had that since 2005 2007 actually. Look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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