Srw1525 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 From a few blue check marked guys from Twitter and cap friendly on Twitter, all showed Borgen was selected from Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Srw1525 said: From a few blue check marked guys from Twitter and cap friendly on Twitter, all showed Borgen was selected from Buffalo Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: Oh well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 I'm surprised at CapFriendly jumping to project Borgen without any credible leaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Wasn't arbitrary. Was based on Dahlin and Samuelsson. Right. The pipeline itself is shockingly barren not just "barren" - if we trade Eichel and Reino and don't return NHL Cs, it's a defcon-5 situation with every single egg in the Cozens/Mittelstadt basket. It wouldn't be sufficient even to just draft Eklund (likely W, anyways) with the other top picks/trade returns being of another position. They need Cs in the pipeline *with* Jack and Sam here, if we send them out we need to stockpile a few here in the coming weeks. 3 minutes ago, darksabre said: I'm surprised at CapFriendly jumping to project Borgen without any credible leaks 100 uncredible leaks = 1 credible leak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GASabresIUFAN Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Can’t wait to reclaim him on waivers 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 As well he should have been. Too bad, oh well. Now go get a better replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Okay. Moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Can’t wait to reclaim him on waivers Can you explain some more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Don't care . Will probably get him when waived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: Can you explain some more? Sabres get first dibs if Seattle waives him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 They didn't pick him just to waive him lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: Sabres get first dibs if Seattle waives him. 1 minute ago, darksabre said: They didn't pick him just to waive him lol Right lol this is what I'm questioning. Why pick him then waive him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, WildCard said: Can you explain some more? If he doesn't make the Kraken, to send him back to the AHL he'll need to clear waivers. Under the expansion draft rules, we would get first crack at claiming him. This is a very possible scenario. There are a ton of good D in this draft and with the Kraken having to take minimum of 9 D, I can easily see them having 7 or more D better then Borgen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dudacek said: Now go get a better replacement. I would re-sign Hal Irwin to a multi-year deal before he gets scooped up on the UFA market. Edited July 21, 2021 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, LabattBlue said: I would re-sign Hal Irwin to a multi-year deal before he gets scooped up on the UFA market. idk what this means, is it sarcasm or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, darksabre said: They didn't pick him just to waive him lol no they took him for depth, a chance to compete for a job, a cheap contract and the best available player from a terrible list of Buffalo crap. This doesn't mean he'll be good enough to beat out 3 or 4 other guys to make the Kraken come Fall. We can always sign Luke Schenn for depth at RHD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Well, as I've said previously, losing Borgen will constitute bad asset management unless (i) the return for Risto clearly exceeds Borgen's value or (ii) they reclaim Borgen from waivers. Both of these are quite possible IMHO, but so is the bad asset management outcome. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Well, as I've said previously, losing Borgen will constitute bad asset management unless (i) the return for Risto clearly exceeds Borgen's value or (ii) they reclaim Borgen from waivers. Both of these are quite possible IMHO, but so is the bad asset management outcome. What was Borgen's trade value? A 4th rd pick? Risto will easily return a 2nd and remove a 5.4 mill cap liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: If he doesn't make the Kraken, to send him back to the AHL he'll need to clear waivers. Under the expansion draft rules, we would get first crack at claiming him. This is a very possible scenario. There are a ton of good D in this draft and with the Kraken having to take minimum of 9 D, I can easily see them having 7 or more D better then Borgen. I would expect them to trade him rather than waive him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, darksabre said: I would expect them to trade him rather than waive him It's certainly possible, but his trade value is limited and they need bodies in the AHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, darksabre said: I would expect them to trade him rather than waive him Possible. And maybe they figure a 3rd or 4th rounder in '22 is more valuable than anything else they could get out of Buffalo. But right now, there's at least a 50/50 chance that's the most they got from the Sabres. Heck, could see Adams offering a 4th to get him back & considering how far Buffalo has to climb, Francis deciding that's his best offer. So, did Adams manage to lose the 4th many here were willing to offer to end up minus Miller who could be useful away from Krueger to actually keep (eventually) Borgen & Miller? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: It's certainly possible, but his trade value is limited and they need bodies in the AHL. If he's a risk to get claimed on waivers then it doesn't matter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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