Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 This is a day old but I hadn’t seen it posted anywhere. Dreger was discussing players that are available on the Sabres and mentioned the team hopes to keep Risto. “Now, there are other pieces Buffalo would consider moving as well. You’re talking about Ristolainen. You’re talking about Sam Reinhart. I think they would prefer to keep Ristolainen unless the deal is too sweet to turn away from.” https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers-and-the-buffalo-sabres/2021/07/06/ How does this make you feel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: This is a day old but I hadn’t seen it posted anywhere. Dreger was discussing players that are available on the Sabres and mentioned the team hopes to keep Risto. “Now, there are other pieces Buffalo would consider moving as well. You’re talking about Ristolainen. You’re talking about Sam Reinhart. I think they would prefer to keep Ristolainen unless the deal is too sweet to turn away from.” https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers-and-the-buffalo-sabres/2021/07/06/ How does this make you feel? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Oh, man, I hope not. Someone here, @Brawndo I think, pointed out that Ristolainen is one of TP's favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Good work inky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hoss said: This is a day old but I hadn’t seen it posted anywhere. Dreger was discussing players that are available on the Sabres and mentioned the team hopes to keep Risto. “Now, there are other pieces Buffalo would consider moving as well. You’re talking about Ristolainen. You’re talking about Sam Reinhart. I think they would prefer to keep Ristolainen unless the deal is too sweet to turn away from.” https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers-and-the-buffalo-sabres/2021/07/06/ How does this make you feel? I'm fine with it. In comparison to Jack and Sam if the Sabres decide to trade him at the next trade deadline his value should not decline very much. He's a second pairing forward who should be the 2B defenseman. Make him play a simple game and you will get more out of him. He's one of the few bangers on this non-banging team. In my opinion he gets unfairly scorned. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hoss said: This is a day old but I hadn’t seen it posted anywhere. Dreger was discussing players that are available on the Sabres and mentioned the team hopes to keep Risto. “Now, there are other pieces Buffalo would consider moving as well. You’re talking about Ristolainen. You’re talking about Sam Reinhart. I think they would prefer to keep Ristolainen unless the deal is too sweet to turn away from.” https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers-and-the-buffalo-sabres/2021/07/06/ How does this make you feel? I hope this is just classic "feeding the insiders stuff", but I really hope they're not going to keep Risto around. At the very least he's gotta be just about sick of being here anyway. But they gotta pay Dahlin and other D men and Risto's salary doesn't fit. I'd rather keep Miller. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, Hoss said: This is a day old but I hadn’t seen it posted anywhere. Dreger was discussing players that are available on the Sabres and mentioned the team hopes to keep Risto. “Now, there are other pieces Buffalo would consider moving as well. You’re talking about Ristolainen. You’re talking about Sam Reinhart. I think they would prefer to keep Ristolainen unless the deal is too sweet to turn away from.” https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers-and-the-buffalo-sabres/2021/07/06/ How does this make you feel? Personally I just don't think they have been offered a decent trade value for him (in past years and so far in the off season) meaning the Sabres decide to keep him. Worst case he should have value at the trade deadline since he's a UFA next year. I know some of the fans want him gone regardless but what's a reasonable trade for him right now at the draft? If he moves, he most likely moves in part of a package with Jack or Sam at the draft or moves after the dust settles with free agency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, darksabre said: I hope this is just classic "feeding the insiders stuff", but I really hope they're not going to keep Risto around. At the very least he's gotta be just about sick of being here anyway. But they gotta pay Dahlin and other D men and Risto's salary doesn't fit. I'd rather keep Miller. Now that we talked about it yesterday its tough to see it any other way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Oh, man, I hope not. Someone here, @Brawndo I think, pointed out that Ristolainen is one of TP's favourites. Toilet Paper does indeed love sh!t 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Line Center Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Smoke. Screen. Szn. Translation: "We would like to keep him because we like our D depth....we aren't drafting Power, despite what the owner says about him - if that's who you want we are taking any and all calls for the number 1 overall, Anaheim." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Digger said: Personally I just don't think they have been offered a decent trade value for him (in past years and so far in the off season) meaning the Sabres decide to keep him. Worst case he should have value at the trade deadline since he's a UFA next year. I know some of the fans want him gone regardless but what's a reasonable trade for him right now at the draft? If he moves, he most likely moves in part of a package with Jack or Sam at the draft or moves after the dust settles with free agency. I think there’s a decent chance they’re working hard to increase his value Just now, Second Line Center said: Smoke. Screen. Szn. Translation: "We would like to keep him because we like our D depth....we aren't drafting Power, despite what the owner says about him - if that's who you want we are taking any and all calls for the number 1 overall, Anaheim." I don’t think this has anything to do with the draft/Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Line Center Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hoss said: I think there’s a decent chance they’re working hard to increase his value I don’t think this has anything to do with the draft/Power Maybe I'm reading it wrong. That's just who I think Anaheim would draft if we traded down with them. What was the draft and players involved where Darcy and another GM had names of who they were definitely drafting if there when their pick came when discussing a swap - or did the swap happen? That was the story out of one draft with him right or am I misremembering. Edited July 7, 2021 by Second Line Center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 I’d be surprised if Ventura would want to keep Risto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just now, Second Line Center said: Maybe I'm reading it wrong. That's just who I think Anaheim would draft if we traded down with them. What was the draft and players involved where Darcy and another GM had names of who they were definitely drafting if there when their pick came? That was the story out of one draft with him right or am I misremembering. To your first part: trades down, especially from one, are so massively rare. To the second: I don’t know the story. I do remember Tim Murray trying his hardest to trade up for Dylan Larkin but one of the teams (Columbus?) he was speaking to had someone fall to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Second Line Center said: What was the draft and players involved where Darcy and another GM had names of who they were definitely drafting if there when their pick came when discussing a swap - or did the swap happen? That was the story out of one draft with him right or am I misremembering. That was the Tyler Myers pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: I’d be surprised if Ventura would want to keep Risto. Ventura showing up to the Sabres to trade away Risto. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 33 minutes ago, darksabre said: this is just classic "feeding the insiders stuff" My knee-jerk reaction. They're trying to pump up his value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Line Center Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: That was the Tyler Myers pick. Correct! Dang I forgot that and I just Googled it. Defenseman Tyler Myers was selected by the Buffalo Sabres 12th-overall in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft. And here's a little side story to how that selection came to be. The Los Angeles Kings had the 12th pick in the draft that year, the Sabres had the 13th. Both were looking for defensemen and the two best-rated defensemen on the board--Colten Teubert and Tyler Myers--were still there when it came to the Kings at No.12. Buffalo GM Darcy Regier proposed a trade to Kings GM Dean Lombardi as he and his scouting staff wanted Myers. Lombardi had his choice in mind as well but in order for him to sign off on the trade so the Sabres wouldn't take his guy, each GM wrote the name of the player they wanted on a napkin at the draft table. If they wrote the same name, no deal. When they turned the napkins over, Regier wrote Myers, Lombardi wrote Teubert and the deal was done. Buffalo traded their pick, No.13 overall, and a 2009 3rd-round pick to Los Angeles to move up a spot and picked Myers. https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Michael-Pachla/On-Myers-Antipin-Guhle-Lehner-and-Kane-Winnipeg-at-Buffalo-tonight/209/90202 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 I am good with keeping Risto. Yes, I have criticized him a LOT in these forums. No, I don't think he is a good 1st paring D-man. YES, if they could get a top 15 pick for him or a legit top prospect I would still trade him. But I don't NEED him gone. I think he could be a very good 2nd paring D-man (keep his minutes under 20 minutes per game.) He then could be on your 2nd team PP (or at least fill in if needed) and he can Penalty kill. You have to resign him for a few more years, but IF this was his role, I'd be ok with it. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I’d be surprised if Ventura would want to keep Risto. I hope Ventura slapped the person who first mentioned keeping Risto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresVet Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 55 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Oh, man, I hope not. Someone here, @Brawndo I think, pointed out that Ristolainen is one of TP's favourites. What can you say? Terry knows hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I hope Ventura slapped the person who first mentioned keeping Risto. Your malevolence toward Risto as a D-man has been well-documented and is not lost on us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Second Line Center said: Correct! Dang I forgot that and I just Googled it. Defenseman Tyler Myers was selected by the Buffalo Sabres 12th-overall in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft. And here's a little side story to how that selection came to be. The Los Angeles Kings had the 12th pick in the draft that year, the Sabres had the 13th. Both were looking for defensemen and the two best-rated defensemen on the board--Colten Teubert and Tyler Myers--were still there when it came to the Kings at No.12. Buffalo GM Darcy Regier proposed a trade to Kings GM Dean Lombardi as he and his scouting staff wanted Myers. Lombardi had his choice in mind as well but in order for him to sign off on the trade so the Sabres wouldn't take his guy, each GM wrote the name of the player they wanted on a napkin at the draft table. If they wrote the same name, no deal. When they turned the napkins over, Regier wrote Myers, Lombardi wrote Teubert and the deal was done. Buffalo traded their pick, No.13 overall, and a 2009 3rd-round pick to Los Angeles to move up a spot and picked Myers. https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Michael-Pachla/On-Myers-Antipin-Guhle-Lehner-and-Kane-Winnipeg-at-Buffalo-tonight/209/90202 Is it just me, or does that seem like an extremely poor piece of negotiating by Regier? There was no way for the Sabres to benefit from that deal. Either way, trading up or staying put, the Kings would get the player they preferred, and the Sabres would get the other guy. The Sabres paid a trade up price for no reason. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Hoss said: Toilet Paper does indeed love sh!t If I were toilet paper I’d actually prefer to be used the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Negotiating ploy. Savvy piece of work IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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