darksabre Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, fiftyone said: Because the Sabres aren't getting offers they're satisfied with or because they simply want to improve the team around him? Because he doesn't have the leverage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I think that they are resolving the treatment. The neck is getting better, no surgery, etc. That is an attempt to make him more tradable. I have no idea when the trade occurs but first step is to clear the air on the injury a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiftyone Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, darksabre said: Because he doesn't have the leverage Okay. But do you think the Sabres are exploring trading him and are deciding they're not getting a fair return? Or that they're not entertaining the idea at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I think if there had been positive news on his health, we would've heard about it, as it's very much in both the Sabres' and Eichel's interests to make that known. So I think the resolution is a trade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I think before expansion makes the most sense as they don't want to protect assets they are about to trade. But they might end up with more to protect after the trade. Can't know for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, darksabre said: Because he doesn't have the leverage Then the Sabres have been going way out of their way with the whole “we want players that wanna be here schtick” for Reinhart and Risto? Seems unlikely. Kevyn Adams has been buttering up this fan base for the inevitable Eichel trade his the end of the season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, inkman said: Then the Sabres have been going way out of their way with the whole “we want players that wanna be here schtick” for Reinhart and Risto? Seems unlikely. Kevyn Adams has been buttering up this fan base for the inevitable Eichel trade his the end of the season. I got bad news for Adams on the state of the fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: I got bad news for Adams on the state of the fanbase. He’s aware. He’s mentioned it several times. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t bring in some fan favorite types to fill out the roster. High energy, physical players that this fanbase covets. It’s pretty simple, ice a team that plays hard and is exciting to watch, the fans will come back. It’s going to take time to heal the wounds but I get the feeling he knows what the fans want. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, inkman said: He’s aware. He’s mentioned it several times. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t bring in some fan favorite types to fill out the roster. High energy, physical players that this fanbase covets. It’s pretty simple, ice a team that plays hard and is exciting to watch, the fans will come back. It’s going to take time to heal the wounds but I get the feeling he knows what the fans want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Since it’s going to take a couple years for that, he’ll need to put something on the ice the fans want or he’ll be out of a job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, inkman said: Since it’s going to take a couple years for that, he’ll need to put something on the ice the fans want or he’ll be out of a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, fiftyone said: Okay. But do you think the Sabres are exploring trading him and are deciding they're not getting a fair return? Or that they're not entertaining the idea at all? I think the team wants to trade him but only if they can get the right return. I don't think Jack ever asked to be traded. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 The 17th-21st, there is a roster freeze. Expansion protection lists are due on the 17th and everything is frozen until the expansion draft. So you figure it happens 12-16th or the 22-23rd. If it doesn't happen then I think he starts the season in Buffalo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, darksabre said: I still don't think he's getting traded I want to believe 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: The 17th-21st, there is a roster freeze. Expansion protection lists are due on the 17th and everything is frozen until the expansion draft. So you figure it happens 12-16th or the 22-23rd. If it doesn't happen then I think he starts the season in Buffalo. Good writeup, agreed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, darksabre said: I still don't think he's getting traded Hoping you're right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I swear if this team is dumb enough to take ***** packages for jack eichel and not keep him I'm done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I think if there had been positive news on his health, we would've heard about it, as it's very much in both the Sabres' and Eichel's interests to make that known. So I think the resolution is a trade. I agree with you that a resolution on the Jack issue is a trade. But I disagree with you that not making public comments about his status indicates a negative prognosis. What Jack and his reps and the Sabres don't want is public commentary about this situation. Keeping this issue private between the parties is the right approach to avoid discord and misunderstanding. If teams are seriously interested in trading for Jack they would be given the required medical reports to make such a major decision. It seems to me that the parties involved are handling it in the right manner and professional way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I'm at a point where I'd feel deflated if we didn't move Jack. And I like him and think he's great 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I'm at a point where I'd feel deflated if we didn't move Jack. And I like him and think he's great I'd rather have that than ... 29 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I swear if this team is dumb enough to take ***** packages for jack eichel and not keep him I'm done We had the "trade for a bad package when you didn't have to" scenario play out with O'Reilly. It can't happen again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I'm at a point where I'd feel deflated if we didn't move Jack. And I like him and think he's great That's their strategy. Convince us over time we must trade him. Just like the ROR bs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: That's their strategy. Convince us over time we must trade him. Just like the ROR bs. Nah. I was all over the ROR stuff before pretty much everyone. This time is different. And even a disappointing eichel return will tower over the ROR return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, fiftyone said: Because the Sabres aren't getting offers they're satisfied with or because they simply want to improve the team around him? Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrefanday1 Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I agree with whoever stated they will NOT trade Jack...I do think that the team could actually be very good under DG with a healthy Jack and Sam signed long term as well. With all the young guys we have now the team will actually have a really good future with a healthy & happy Jack and a likewise happy Sam. There is absolutely no way I believe they can get anywhere near return value for either Jack and/or Sam. The old saying as Punch will know the team who gets the best payer wins the trade. Clearly there is absolutely no hope in hell we get a better player then either Jack or Sam in return if we were to trade either player. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, jad1 said: Blockbuster day? Sure if you consider the apocalyptic end of the franchise to be a blockbuster. 😄 "Blockbuster" refers to bombs which, well, could destroy a city block. So it would be appropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, JohnC said: Much of the success and failure of Adams tenure will be associated with the return he gets on the upcoming trade. There is a lot at stake for how this roster is going to be comprised next season and the near future. Disagree. The success/failure of Adams tenure will be associated with the teams performance. If his return for Eichel is generally considered to be surprisingly good, but the team still sucks in 2025, it’s not going to matter much what the return was. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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